Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Hi Grace, If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I am super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a lot, but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work. I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I can do that. I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted 'buggers' - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, fungi, parasites, etc.) I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom. Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl for the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something else) I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only weigh him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just wanted to be on top of it this time.) I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... laura > > Hi ! > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I bought a > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you share w/ > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 but > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him too? > > Thank you so much > Grace > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 , can you please tell me which juicer should I buy. I really want to do this for my son. Also what book should I buy so i will be able to make the right stuff. I am a very beginner so i need a lot of help. Thank you. Tunde Hi Grace, If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I am super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a lot, but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work. I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I can do that. I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted 'buggers' - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, fungi, parasites, etc.) I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom. Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl for the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something else) I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only weigh him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just wanted to be on top of it this time.) I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... laura > > Hi ! > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I bought a > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you share w/ > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 but > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him too? > > Thank you so much > Grace > -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 thanks a lots ! Always good information!!!!!!!! I never heard about mms but now I know it!!! I soak my vegies/fruits in water w/ some drops of GSE....... Most of the time I juice organic fruits and vegies too... When you get a rhythm you don't mind juicing at all and then I play around!!The baby is doing fine a little crunk these days because he' s teething..But I plan to add a few drops of the mb12. My almost 4years old aspie is doing fine since I biomedical intervention. I'm planning for next steps...... Again thank you Take care Grace To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:02:41 PMSubject: Re: Questions for laura Hi Grace, If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I am super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a lot, but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work.I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I can do that. I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted 'buggers' - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, fungi, parasites, etc.)I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom.Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl for the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something else)I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only weigh him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just wanted to be on top of it this time.)I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... laura>> Hi ! > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I bought a > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you share w/ > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group !> > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind> Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing?> How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 but > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him too? > > Thank you so much> Grace> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 lmao...don't feel so bad, ...my husband is terrfied he's going to come home one day and find me sewing new work shirts for him made from hemp. haha. He doesn't know how close he is to the truth! This year for mother's day, I'm asking for a kit to make my own windmill! -Tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:02:41 PMSubject: Re: Questions for laura Hi Grace, If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I am super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a lot, but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work.I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I can do that. I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted 'buggers' - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, fungi, parasites, etc.)I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom.Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl for the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something else)I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only weigh him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just wanted to be on top of it this time.)I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... laura>> Hi ! > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I bought a > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you share w/ > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group !> > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind> Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing?> How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 but > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him too? > > Thank you so much> Grace> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi ,My 7 year-old never gains weight. He is about 50 lb s for 2 years. Can it be related to B12 deficiency? It was high in his blood but apparently his body can not use it. Do you have any suggestions? He is GFCF (well I give goat's milk sometimes), we are not following any protocol right now besides the must supps like enzymes,probios,multivit and minerals,zinc,mg, GABA,and some organ support. We also do slow chelation with NDF plus. Can you also write how much of B12 be enough for my son. I do not give any, he gets whatever is in the multivit. Thank you. Hi Grace, If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I am super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a lot, but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work. I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I can do that. I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted 'buggers' - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, fungi, parasites, etc.) I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom. Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl for the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something else) I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only weigh him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just wanted to be on top of it this time.) I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... laura > > Hi ! > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I bought a > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you share w/ > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 but > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him too? > > Thank you so much > Grace > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 , I would love to know how you get rid of pesticides if it's not too much work for you. I'm trying to use organic but sometimes it's not possible. Thanks Dianne > > > > > > Hi ! > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I > > bought a > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you > > share w/ > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 > > but > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him > > too? > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 My son started gaining weight and growing with thyroid meds. > > > > > > Hi ! > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I > > bought a > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you > > share w/ > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 > > but > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him > > too? > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 My son does not seem to have thyroid problems but you never know. I will look it up. Thanks My son started gaining weight and growing with thyroid meds. > > > > > > Hi ! > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I > > bought a > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you > > share w/ > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 > > but > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him > > too? > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 My son was tested a few times and only until I requested his FREE T3 be tested, did they find he needed meds. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that > > I > > > > bought a > > > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that > > you > > > > share w/ > > > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the > > mb12 > > > > but > > > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to > > him > > > > too? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have just checked his lab results (this was not for thyroid function,just for general health), it says FREE T4 (it does not say T3?) and value is 1.14ng/dL (ref 0.7-1.9), in the same test TSH was 4.270mIU/L (ref 0.4-4.20), there is also something about ferritin and it is 87.31 (ref 24-336 for males). Doctor told us that everything was normal. My son was tested a few times and only until I requested his FREE T3 be tested, did they find he needed meds. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that > > I > > > > bought a > > > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that > > you > > > > share w/ > > > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the > > mb12 > > > > but > > > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to > > him > > > > too? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 You know, I don't know. If what you are saying is that his blood serum is high - then yes, I would tend to agree that his body has it, just doesn't have enough resources to get it where it needs to be. With Rob, (my 26 yr old brother), he too had very good blood serum levels but showed every sign of deficiency. He used the nasal spray --and a year later, he is now showing severe deficiency. That being said, we have done a lot of biomed with him. (not chelation as of yet) With a young child - failure to gain appropriate weight or grow - is a 'failure to thrive' issue, Jimmy had it, it was suggested that Maddie had it...that is why Sam gets it. Despite this, all of my kids made the milestones at the appropriate time or before. Jimmy only started slipping after 18 months. It could be a b12 deficiency - in the book - " Could it be B12, by Sally Palochok, RN, she goes into other tests to confirm a B12 deficiency - and also give the course of action. (she also explains mutations, etc.) Rob's DAN only tested the blood serum, I think she does additional tests now. I think sometimes it's a matter of understanding the tests and what to order. Another good book (to check out) is " Special Needs Kids Eat Right, by Judy Converse " - she goes into caloric needs, fat needs, etc. When I understood it, I was able to track it, and Jimmy (who was very skinny) started to look healthier in terms of weight. He's been on a hunger strike lately, but gets nutrition and fats thru his juicer drink and what little he is eating. (He hasn't been feeling well) - I tend to cut out all the sugars, and serve very nutrient dense foods. (Foods that have a lot of nutrition yet, per serving size, pack a punch in the calorie dept.) I also tend to let him 'graze' (eat small meals during the day). I hope this helps laura > > > > > > Hi ! > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I > > bought a > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you > > share w/ > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 > > but > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him > > too? > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hi. Not a problem. Two books - The Ultimate Healing System, LePore, and Fat Flush by Ann Louise Gittleman, say the same thing. 1/2 tsp of clorox (just reg clorox, no smells or anything) to 1 gallon of water. Put in the vegetables/fruit for atleast 20-30 min. Ann Louise Gittleman suggested this is what military families do when overseas to deal with water that might have 'bugs' in it. laura > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I > > > bought a > > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you > > > share w/ > > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the mb12 > > > but > > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him > > > too? > > > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had to find a naturopath for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad > > that > > > > I > > > > > > bought a > > > > > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information > > that > > > > you > > > > > > share w/ > > > > > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > > > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > > > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order > > the > > > > mb12 > > > > > > but > > > > > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid > > to > > > > him > > > > > > too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Ayse, you may want to try a 'patch' test. I used 2% iodine tinture and made a patch on my arm about 2 " X 2 " - and it was 'gone' within 3 hours for myself. (they have instructions on the web, just google it.) I did feel better that day. Also, I had done it with Rob, and found that his 'thyroid' fluctuated during that time I was testing. Once I stopped, the fluctuations stopped. He is on Synthyroid. laura > > > > > > > > > > Hi ! > > > > > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that > > I > > > > bought a > > > > > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that > > you > > > > share w/ > > > > > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! > > > > > > > > > > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind > > > > > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? > > > > > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the > > mb12 > > > > but > > > > > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to > > him > > > > too? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 , Synthroid is not very good. You may want to try and get him changed to Natural Thyroid. Just about everyone who has used both (i havent) says that its like night and day. They felt like crap on Synthroid, felt good, started to heal on Natural. (And if i already told you this please disregard this post cause i am having trouble remembering if i already said it or to who!) Cheryl > > Ayse, > > you may want to try a 'patch' test. I used 2% iodine tinture and made a patch on my arm about 2 " X 2 " - and it was 'gone' within 3 hours for myself. (they have instructions on the web, just google it.) > > I did feel better that day. Also, I had done it with Rob, and found that his 'thyroid' fluctuated during that time I was testing. Once I stopped, the fluctuations stopped. He is on Synthyroid. > > laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 This is yet another instance that a non doctor(or ) knows more than the doctor. Most doctors have no clue about the thyroid or the tests. What they say is fine or just slightly off throws everything wayyy off. Just a little Off in a child can cause major disfunction in most areas of the body. And a lifetime of off destroys the body, slow but steady. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Cheryl > > > I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had to find a naturopath for me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 In all fairness...(as I like to be sometimes Most medical doctors can't know it all. Medical school doesn't necessarily teach it, and a lot of times it's like finding a needle in a haystack. I think I had read in Bock's book - you have to become the 'medical detective.' for cases like ours. Recently when I had asked a woman, " whose your Doctor? " and she said " I am. " I was taken aback by this statement at first, but then I really saw the truth in it. It's difficult to 'treat' a child when you see them for a period of less than 10 min. You (the parent) become the eyes and ears for the doctor -- becoming the person who collects all the evidence -- and with the right set of circumstances, actually help create the protocol which will help your child. I also have been told " you should just wait and see what the doctor says. " -- I laugh, WAIT? Hell, if I had waited, I would still be wondering what was going on with Jimmy much less have him talking (and joking!) with me. I love the education I have received from this board. It has convinced me that -- I do know what is best, and when I read something, or feel compelled to try something, I bring it to my DAN! and when we have an appointment, discuss it. (Usually if it involves something that I cannot do myself, like write a prescription.) Jimmy's speech sessions were much more productive after I had read three books on the subject. I was able to imitate the lessons at home, and report with accuracy and intelligence on the matter. I think that many people 'wait' for someone to 'rescue' their child, and truly, you are the only person that truly cares about them and their development. (that may not be a fair statement...) READ, READ READ....knowledge is power. laura > > > > > > I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had to find a naturopath for me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Agreed. We've become a culture that has lost its ability to take care of health on a day to day basis. We all should know how to handle simple ailments and we should all certainly be more responsible about the way we eat. But, when we're faced with numbers like 1 in 100 kids being diagnosed, you'd think these pedi's would know SOMEthing or atleast try to LEARN something or have an opinion that goes beyond "Vaccines do not cause autism". That's what gets me. There are very few REAL doctors out there. Ones who look for reasons, causes, ones who are curious to know WHY. I'm not asking his foot doctor to try to learn more, I'm asking a pediatrician, for crying out loud. Our kids are their customers. Know your customers, right? Most doctors, in my opinion, are individuals who have average to high intellect with the ability to memorize texts and facts. Very few seem inclined to get their hands dirty. With that said, we should never expect anyone to care about our kids the way we do. It's usually not going to happen. : ( -Tammy To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 12:05:34 PMSubject: Re: Questions for laura In all fairness...(as I like to be sometimes Most medical doctors can't know it all. Medical school doesn't necessarily teach it, and a lot of times it's like finding a needle in a haystack. I think I had read in Bock's book - you have to become the 'medical detective.' for cases like ours.Recently when I had asked a woman, "whose your Doctor?" and she said "I am." I was taken aback by this statement at first, but then I really saw the truth in it. It's difficult to 'treat' a child when you see them for a period of less than 10 min. You (the parent) become the eyes and ears for the doctor -- becoming the person who collects all the evidence -- and with the right set of circumstances, actually help create the protocol which will help your child. I also have been told "you should just wait and see what the doctor says." -- I laugh, WAIT? Hell, if I had waited, I would still be wondering what was going on with Jimmy much less have him talking (and joking!) with me.I love the education I have received from this board. It has convinced me that -- I do know what is best, and when I read something, or feel compelled to try something, I bring it to my DAN! and when we have an appointment, discuss it. (Usually if it involves something that I cannot do myself, like write a prescription.)Jimmy's speech sessions were much more productive after I had read three books on the subject. I was able to imitate the lessons at home, and report with accuracy and intelligence on the matter. I think that many people 'wait' for someone to 'rescue' their child, and truly, you are the only person that truly cares about them and their development. (that may not be a fair statement...) READ, READ READ....knowledge is power. laura > >> > > > I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had to find a naturopath for me.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Very well put Tammy. It is the peds responsibility to know the facts and treatments for children. They get paid for their " expertise " in the area of pediatrics because they chose to make that their specialty. I will do the footwork and research day and night for my kids sake because your right that nobody will care for our children like we do. You would think these peds would be grateful to parents for giving them info that may be new to them but unfortunately their egos get in the way and they like to make us the bad parent because we dared to suggest something that they didn't think of. T Lynn wrote: >Agreed. We've become a culture that has lost its ability to take care of health >on a day to day basis. We all should know how to handle simple ailments and we >should all certainly be more responsible about the way we eat. But, when we're >faced with numbers like 1 in 100 kids being diagnosed, you'd think these pedi's >would know SOMEthing or atleast try to LEARN something or have an opinion that >goes beyond " Vaccines do not cause autism " . That's what gets me. There are >very few REAL doctors out there. Ones who look for reasons, causes, ones who >are curious to know WHY. I'm not asking his foot doctor to try to learn more, >I'm asking a pediatrician, for crying out loud. Our kids are their customers. >Know your customers, right?   Most doctors, in my opinion, are individuals who >have average to high intellect with the ability to memorize texts and facts. >Very few seem inclined to get their hands dirty. With that said, we should >never expect anyone to care about our kids the way we do. It's usually not >going to happen.  : ( > >-Tammy > > > > > >________________________________ > >To: mb12 valtrex >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 12:05:34 PM >Subject: Re: Questions for laura > > >In all fairness...(as I like to be sometimes > >Most medical doctors can't know it all. Medical school doesn't necessarily teach >it, and a lot of times it's like finding a needle in a haystack. I think I had >read in Bock's book - you have to become the 'medical detective.' for >cases like ours. > >Recently when I had asked a woman, " whose your Doctor? " and she said " I am. " I >was taken aback by this statement at first, but then I really saw the truth in >it. It's difficult to 'treat' a child when you see them for a period of less >than 10 min. You (the parent) become the eyes and ears for the doctor -- >becoming the person who collects all the evidence -- and with the right set of >circumstances, actually help create the protocol which will help your child. > > >I also have been told " you should just wait and see what the doctor says. " -- I >laugh, WAIT? Hell, if I had waited, I would still be wondering what was going on >with Jimmy much less have him talking (and joking!) with me. > >I love the education I have received from this board. It has convinced me that >-- I do know what is best, and when I read something, or feel compelled to try >something, I bring it to my DAN! and when we have an appointment, discuss it. >(Usually if it involves something that I cannot do myself, like write a >prescription.) > >Jimmy's speech sessions were much more productive after I had read three books >on the subject. I was able to imitate the lessons at home, and report with >accuracy and intelligence on the matter. I think that many people 'wait' for >someone to 'rescue' their child, and truly, you are the only person that truly >cares about them and their development. (that may not be a fair statement...) >READ, READ READ....knowledge is power. > > > laura > > >> > >> > >> > I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, >>you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do >>you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and >>say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had >>to find a naturopath for me. >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I don't know whether it is ego or them just being shrewd and following what their group or AAP etc tell them to tell parents. A pedetrician working in the best interest of the child and telling them about the risks or Dxing a vaccine injury will be thrown out the group and ostracized in no time - with no livelihood. Check out some of the memos that they get about how to talk with parents who talk about vaccine injury, autism etc and you will know. Best not to talk about autism but neurological injury, neuroinflmmation or encephalopathy or being more sick than before (immune deficiency) when talking about vaccine reactions or just ask them to review the insert from the vaccines with you (note that none of them will talk about Autism but a whole lot of the injuries can very well result in autistic features). One has to question the oath they take of "doing no harm" - whether a lot of them are true to itTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 11:36:08 AMSubject: Re: Re: Questions for laura Very well put Tammy. It is the peds responsibility to know the facts and treatments for children. They get paid for their "expertise " in the area of pediatrics because they chose to make that their specialty. I will do the footwork and research day and night for my kids sake because your right that nobody will care for our children like we do. You would think these peds would be grateful to parents for giving them info that may be new to them but unfortunately their egos get in the way and they like to make us the bad parent because we dared to suggest something that they didn't think of. T Lynn wrote: >Agreed. We've become a culture that has lost its ability to take care of health >on a day to day basis. We all should know how to handle simple ailments and we >should all certainly be more responsible about the way we eat. But, when we're >faced with numbers like 1 in 100 kids being diagnosed, you'd think these pedi's >would know SOMEthing or atleast try to LEARN something or have an opinion that >goes beyond "Vaccines do not cause autism". That's what gets me. There are >very few REAL doctors out there. Ones who look for reasons, causes, ones who >are curious to know WHY. I'm not asking his foot doctor to try to learn more, >I'm asking a pediatrician, for crying out loud. Our kids are their customers. >Know your customers, right? Most doctors, in my opinion, are individuals who >have average to high intellect with the ability to memorize texts and facts. >Very few seem inclined to get their hands dirty. With that said, we should >never expect anyone to care about our kids the way we do. It's usually not >going to happen. : ( > >-Tammy > > > > > >________________________________ > >To: mb12 valtrex >Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 12:05:34 PM >Subject: Re: Questions for laura > > >In all fairness...(as I like to be sometimes > >Most medical doctors can't know it all. Medical school doesn't necessarily teach >it, and a lot of times it's like finding a needle in a haystack. I think I had >read in Bock's book - you have to become the 'medical detective.' for >cases like ours. > >Recently when I had asked a woman, "whose your Doctor?" and she said "I am." I >was taken aback by this statement at first, but then I really saw the truth in >it. It's difficult to 'treat' a child when you see them for a period of less >than 10 min. You (the parent) become the eyes and ears for the doctor -- >becoming the person who collects all the evidence -- and with the right set of >circumstances, actually help create the protocol which will help your child. > > >I also have been told "you should just wait and see what the doctor says." -- I >laugh, WAIT? Hell, if I had waited, I would still be wondering what was going on >with Jimmy much less have him talking (and joking!) with me. > >I love the education I have received from this board. It has convinced me that >-- I do know what is best, and when I read something, or feel compelled to try >something, I bring it to my DAN! and when we have an appointment, discuss it. >(Usually if it involves something that I cannot do myself, like write a >prescription.) > >Jimmy's speech sessions were much more productive after I had read three books >on the subject. I was able to imitate the lessons at home, and report with >accuracy and intelligence on the matter. I think that many people 'wait' for >someone to 'rescue' their child, and truly, you are the only person that truly >cares about them and their development. (that may not be a fair statement...) >READ, READ READ....knowledge is power. > > > laura > > >> > >> > >> > I am not a doctor, but his TSH is high and out of range. Next set of labs, >>you will need to ask for the FREE T3 and antibodies to be checked as well. Do >>you have a DAN doctor who will listen? A regular doctor will not treat this and >>say it is fine, I am going through the very same thing now with myself and had >>to find a naturopath for me. >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Try nutriiveda from pursuit of research . Excellent product contains iodine as well just go onto their web site lots of info and helps with weight gain and loss. Contains lots trace elements hundred percent whole food and safe for our kids > Hi , > > My 7 year-old never gains weight. He is about 50 lb s for 2 years. Can it be > related to B12 deficiency? It was high in his blood but apparently his body > can not use it. Do you have any suggestions? He is GFCF (well I give goat's > milk sometimes), we are not following any protocol right now besides the > must supps like enzymes,probios,multivit and minerals,zinc,mg, GABA,and some > organ support. We also do slow chelation with NDF plus. Can you also write > how much of B12 be enough for my son. I do not give any, he gets whatever is > in the multivit. Thank you. > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:02 AM, laurargoddin wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Grace, >> >> If ever was a time when I didn't want to divulge how I prepare my fruits >> and veg for juicing...ugh. Now you guys will know without a doubt that I >> am >> super anal retentive and a tad bit over the top...It just sounds like a >> lot, >> but once you get used to it, really, it's not a lot of work. >> >> I only buy organic. If you don't -- there are ways to get rid of the >> pesticides. If you need me to write up directions (from a book I have!) I >> can do that. >> >> I soak all my veggies/fruits in a soak to get rid of any unwanted >> 'buggers' >> - for a period of about 20 min. (I make it daily - It's a gallon of water >> with 5 drops of MMS (water purifier) - I put it in my glass one gallon >> pitcher. This solution will rid the veggies/fruits of protazoa, yeast, >> fungi, parasites, etc.) >> >> I peel my pears and apples. (I also cut them so that I am not juicing the >> seeds) If there are 'bad' spots, I cut them out. I scrub my carrots with a >> vegetable scrubber. I cut off the tops and a small portion of the bottom. >> >> Despite all this 'work' - It only takes me about 15 min from start to >> finish to prepare all the veggies/fruit, and cleanup. (I get out a bowl >> for >> the water, fill it, put the fruit/veggies in, and then go do something >> else) >> >> I give Sam about 10 drops of B12. I was giving him 5, but he seems like he >> needs more. It doesn't contain folic acid. He gets juicer juice that >> contains that...so I just decided to give him B12 only. I may change my >> mind, but for right now, that is what I am doing. >> >> I am just trying to be 'preventative'...but you know, I think he's low, >> because he kinda slowed up on his weight gain...so when I added it in, his >> weight sped up again. I weigh him weekly, and yes, I have a chart... (My >> sister (she's a nurse)says I need to throw away the scale! GAH! I only >> weigh >> him because I had so many issues with Jimmy and Maddie over weight, I just >> wanted to be on top of it this time.) >> >> I swear, I was never like this before, and I keep it pretty well hidden >> from my friends and family. Although, I think they are on to me... >> >> laura >> >> >> >> > >> > Hi ! >> > I'm juicing for my 10 months baby and he loved it!! I'm so glad that I >> bought a >> > juicer! Even my husband drinks it! Thanks for all information that you >> share w/ >> > everybody here!!!!!!!! I'm learning a lot from this group ! >> > >> > I have a couple questions for you, if you don't mind >> > Do you peel apples, pears, carrots for juicing? >> > How many drops of MB12 do you give to your baby? I want to order the >> > mb12 >> but >> > I'm not sure about the concentration .....Do you give folic acid to him >> too? >> > >> > Thank you so much >> > Grace >> > >> >> >> > -- Cotter 4 Pollerton Manor Carlow 059 9134964 087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 A doctor prescribes Armour: http://www.armourthyroid.com/ A natural porcine thyroid which is basically a less concentrated Armour(meaning you take more of it to equal the armour tho some say Armour is much better): http://www.nutri-meds.com/Nutri_Meds_Desiccated_Porcine_Thyroid_Tablets_p/nm-g-p\ tt.htm There are several other brands that are almost the same thing as the Nutri-Meds but they tend to put other ingredients in with it i dont like. I personally wouldnt put a child on replacement thyroid hormones unless the Labs were done correctly (incorrect testing is a very widespread problem) and read correctly (most docs do not have a clue). Lugols Iodine included in a comprehensive nutritional program (vitamin, mineral supplements) and good food will help the thyroid to work and not become dependent on replacement. Tyrosine also helps without dependency. In adults the damage is usually years long and the thyroid damage is more severe. Some having almost no function or been cut out by a doc, so the hormone is necessary to heal or survive. Even a slightly damaged thyroid effects the body, if a doc says the labs are a bit off but not to worry, dont listen. A little off throws the body a lot off. Cheryl > > Cheryl do you need to get a doctor to wite a prescription for Natural Thyroid? Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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