Guest guest Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 " After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail. " Knocks the wind out of me. But I may buy this book. Thanks for sharing. Lynnette > > This book was mentioned and discussed at another internet support group for the adult children of bpd parents, and it sounds really good. I'm going to go see if they have it at my local library. > > Judith Herman is Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Training Director of the Victims of Violence Program at The Cambridge Hospital. > > She's the one who coined the term " Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder " , her theory is that there should be a distinction between ongoing, repetitive trauma as opposed to a one-time traumatic incident, because the damage caused by ongoing, repetitive trauma is more severe and difficult to heal and needs even more specialized treatment. > > This excerpt from chapter one is my philosophy almost verbatim. It makes me so happy to know that someone who is so educated and experienced in the trauma and aftermath of child abuse, has written such a well-regarded book about it. Its like, I've been her disciple without even knowing it! > > " To study psychological trauma is to come face to face both with human vulnerability in the natural world and with the capacity for evil in human nature. To study psychological trauma means bearing witness to horrible events. When the events are natural disasters or " acts of God, " those who bear witness sympathize readily with the victim. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. > > It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of the pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. . . . > > In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail. > > The perpetrator's arguments prove irresistible when the bystander faces them in isolation. Without a supportive social environment, the bystander usually succumbs to the temptation to look the other way. This is true even when the victim is an idealized and valued member of society. Soldiers in every war, even those who have been regarded as heroes, complain bitterly that no one wants to know the real truth about war. When the victim is already devalued (a woman, a child), she may find that the most traumatic events in her life take place outside the realm of socially validated reality. Her experience becomes unspeakable. . . . > > To hold traumatic reality in consciousness requires a social context that affirms and protects the victim and that joins the victim and witness in a common alliance. For the individual victim, this social context is created by relationships with friends, lovers, and family. For the larger society, the social context is created by political movements that give voice to the disempowered. . . . " > > -Annie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Yes, " Trauma and Recovery " is a great book.I highly recommend it! I posted a couple of articles by Judith Herman to the board a while back--I think she's right on target and really gets the true nature of predatory behavior and *why* bystander apathy happens.She is so correct when she says that the perp's ace in the hole is that he/she demands nothing of the witness/bystander except inaction--and like any con artist takes advantage of peoples' desire to trust in others' basic decency.It is then very easy to demonize the victim as " negative " " crazy " " trouble making " " vindictive " etc.; to twist it around into the *victim* perpetrating discomfort and distress onto others by speaking his/her unpalatable truth,requesting engagement from others with something they themselves couldn't handle and would prefer not to know.The basic goodness of the *victim* then becomes the suspect rather than the perp,who offers comfort and ease by encouraging disbelief--while the victim's truth telling demands reflection and critical thought on the part of the witness; demands an accountable involvement of the witness/bystander which can inadvertantly engender resentment against the victim.The perp then comes out of it smelling like roses because all they did was *reassure* the witnesses,make them feel better,make them feel good.The victim is always in the one down position because hearing about trauma/atrocity makes other people feel bad--or nervous,if something must be done about it.How much easier then to decide it wasn't such a big deal--perpetrators of atrocity/abuse often drag bystanders down to their level in a subtle way and because bystanders don't want to admit that they have been had by evil,the vicious cycle of abuse/denial continues unexamined. I love what Herman says about the necessity of creating a social context in which both victim and witness are in alliance--that is the challenge and the imperative of any movement that would advocate for abused children,for example.Individuals in society need to believe that it is in *their own* best interests to protect children from abuse,otherwise they will continue to fall for the perp's con game of false reassurance and will continue to deny that they've been had.The perpetrator's bag of tricks needs to be exposed for what it truly is--an assault on the decency of the witness,similar to how the victim was assaulted.Books like " Trauma and Recovery " expose those dirty tricks to the clear light of day--Judith Herman is awesomely articulate and so on point. Thanks for bringing this book to the attention of the message board,Annie. > > This book was mentioned and discussed at another internet support group for the adult children of bpd parents, and it sounds really good. I'm going to go see if they have it at my local library. > > Judith Herman is Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Training Director of the Victims of Violence Program at The Cambridge Hospital. > > She's the one who coined the term " Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder " , her theory is that there should be a distinction between ongoing, repetitive trauma as opposed to a one-time traumatic incident, because the damage caused by ongoing, repetitive trauma is more severe and difficult to heal and needs even more specialized treatment. > > This excerpt from chapter one is my philosophy almost verbatim. It makes me so happy to know that someone who is so educated and experienced in the trauma and aftermath of child abuse, has written such a well-regarded book about it. Its like, I've been her disciple without even knowing it! > > " To study psychological trauma is to come face to face both with human vulnerability in the natural world and with the capacity for evil in human nature. To study psychological trauma means bearing witness to horrible events. When the events are natural disasters or " acts of God, " those who bear witness sympathize readily with the victim. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. > > It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of the pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. . . . > > In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail. > > The perpetrator's arguments prove irresistible when the bystander faces them in isolation. Without a supportive social environment, the bystander usually succumbs to the temptation to look the other way. This is true even when the victim is an idealized and valued member of society. Soldiers in every war, even those who have been regarded as heroes, complain bitterly that no one wants to know the real truth about war. When the victim is already devalued (a woman, a child), she may find that the most traumatic events in her life take place outside the realm of socially validated reality. Her experience becomes unspeakable. . . . > > To hold traumatic reality in consciousness requires a social context that affirms and protects the victim and that joins the victim and witness in a common alliance. For the individual victim, this social context is created by relationships with friends, lovers, and family. For the larger society, the social context is created by political movements that give voice to the disempowered. . . . " > > -Annie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Dear Annie, I had no idea you'd not yet read T & R. I implore you to do so. It was (and remains) even more central to my recovery than the information about BPD. For at least five years, whenever I felt completely lost or hopeless, I would go back to my copy of T & R, and I would understand what was happening to me again and get back on track. The book also gave me insight into the nature of violence, captivity, force and oppression as Universal forces, used by humans in a vast varity of instances. It helps me still to comprehend that I am NOT isolated, that my experience is the same and connected to all human beings who have been subject to forceful captivity and oppression. It also explains the basics of how to recover from trauma in a way that allowed me to move on and find real happiness for the first time in my life. I honestly had never felt what other people call 'happy' until I was around 36 years old, and it was a direct result of knowledge gained from Judith Herman. I cannot recommend this book enough. It changed my life more than any other book I've ever read, and I had it by my bedside for some 7 years. --Charlotte > > This book was mentioned and discussed at another internet support group for the adult children of bpd parents, and it sounds really good. I'm going to go see if they have it at my local library. > > Judith Herman is Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Training Director of the Victims of Violence Program at The Cambridge Hospital. > > She's the one who coined the term " Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder " , her theory is that there should be a distinction between ongoing, repetitive trauma as opposed to a one-time traumatic incident, because the damage caused by ongoing, repetitive trauma is more severe and difficult to heal and needs even more specialized treatment. > > This excerpt from chapter one is my philosophy almost verbatim. It makes me so happy to know that someone who is so educated and experienced in the trauma and aftermath of child abuse, has written such a well-regarded book about it. Its like, I've been her disciple without even knowing it! > > " To study psychological trauma is to come face to face both with human vulnerability in the natural world and with the capacity for evil in human nature. To study psychological trauma means bearing witness to horrible events. When the events are natural disasters or " acts of God, " those who bear witness sympathize readily with the victim. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. > > It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of the pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. . . . > > In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail. > > The perpetrator's arguments prove irresistible when the bystander faces them in isolation. Without a supportive social environment, the bystander usually succumbs to the temptation to look the other way. This is true even when the victim is an idealized and valued member of society. Soldiers in every war, even those who have been regarded as heroes, complain bitterly that no one wants to know the real truth about war. When the victim is already devalued (a woman, a child), she may find that the most traumatic events in her life take place outside the realm of socially validated reality. Her experience becomes unspeakable. . . . > > To hold traumatic reality in consciousness requires a social context that affirms and protects the victim and that joins the victim and witness in a common alliance. For the individual victim, this social context is created by relationships with friends, lovers, and family. For the larger society, the social context is created by political movements that give voice to the disempowered. . . . " > > -Annie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 Thank you for that recommendation, Charlotte, I do want to study this book very thoroughly. Just the excerpt from the first chapter resonated deeply with me, so, I thank you for the encouragement to read all of it. -Annie > > > > This book was mentioned and discussed at another internet support group for the adult children of bpd parents, and it sounds really good. I'm going to go see if they have it at my local library. > > > > Judith Herman is Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Training Director of the Victims of Violence Program at The Cambridge Hospital. > > > > She's the one who coined the term " Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder " , her theory is that there should be a distinction between ongoing, repetitive trauma as opposed to a one-time traumatic incident, because the damage caused by ongoing, repetitive trauma is more severe and difficult to heal and needs even more specialized treatment. > > > > This excerpt from chapter one is my philosophy almost verbatim. It makes me so happy to know that someone who is so educated and experienced in the trauma and aftermath of child abuse, has written such a well-regarded book about it. Its like, I've been her disciple without even knowing it! > > > > " To study psychological trauma is to come face to face both with human vulnerability in the natural world and with the capacity for evil in human nature. To study psychological trauma means bearing witness to horrible events. When the events are natural disasters or " acts of God, " those who bear witness sympathize readily with the victim. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict. > > > > It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of the pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. . . . > > > > In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail. > > > > The perpetrator's arguments prove irresistible when the bystander faces them in isolation. Without a supportive social environment, the bystander usually succumbs to the temptation to look the other way. This is true even when the victim is an idealized and valued member of society. Soldiers in every war, even those who have been regarded as heroes, complain bitterly that no one wants to know the real truth about war. When the victim is already devalued (a woman, a child), she may find that the most traumatic events in her life take place outside the realm of socially validated reality. Her experience becomes unspeakable. . . . > > > > To hold traumatic reality in consciousness requires a social context that affirms and protects the victim and that joins the victim and witness in a common alliance. For the individual victim, this social context is created by relationships with friends, lovers, and family. For the larger society, the social context is created by political movements that give voice to the disempowered. . . . " > > > > -Annie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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