Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 You're a piece of work, Mark! LOL I don't know how you maintain a sense of humor with all you've been through. Hang in there! Now, to address some of your questions. Insulin pens aren't $300 per pen. They're around that for a box of 5. You said something about drawing your insulin, which is the term used if you were using a regular old syringe and a vial of insulin. Forget what he said about throwing the pen tip away after one use. Nonsense. You're exactly right, at $33 per box of 100, you want to get your monies worth! I use a pen tip around 4 times before chucking it. Basically, I change it every morning--one tip per day, so the box of tips will last 100 days. The reason you're still on an oral med is because you are a type 2, meaning your pancreas is still producing insulin, but your body is not receiving it. This is the difference between a t1 and a t2. And why a t1 will be able to use a smaller dose , because his/her body is not rejecting the insulin. And with many t2's, obesity is a lot of the problem with the insulin rejection. By all means, call the doc and have them re-write your prescription for your strips for the Prodigy. Only the Prodidgy strips will work in the Prodigy meter. Are you on Medicare? You need to have your sister (I think you said sister) look this up, and she'll want to look at what's called a Medicare advantage plan with prescription drug coverage. Have her look specifically for plans that give you the best deal on diabetic supplies, from your insulin pens to the tips to the Prodigy strips. These plans can change each year, so by the time you find one for this year and it's working, you may have to do the whole thing again for next year. I think that's it. Oh, one thing. I wouldn't recommend giving yourself injections in your head! Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 To draw up a dose from a vile a blind person would need two things:a count-a-dose and 50cc syringes.At one time I had two count-a-dose, bvut I gave one to Wayne. I will look to see if I can find the other. If I do, I will send it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I'm all ready on a pretty good Medicare advantage plan that has the best coverage of the rest. I figured I could use the needle all day. he wishes me to test four times and this should work fine. glad to hear there is 5 pens in a box. could be the simple boxes he gave me holds only one per box. my sister did say I can go directly through the drug company and get help, but my doc has to fill out some kind of request every month. he acted like he actually cared about the money I may have to spend each month. ok I won't shoot my fat head! seems like it is bigger in fat then my belly though. as far as my attitude still being good? well most of where my health is right now isn't no fault of those who tried to tell me and worn me. this puppy belongs all to just big old me! we make our beds through life and we must sleep in them our self. having a bad attitude and crying about what is done and gone isn't going to help me or any one else who is watching what happens with me. I've heard that a positive attitude is half of the battle of getting well. I strongly believe this is so. I have found through my 55 years of life that the pity pot is for those who have bad attitudes and blame others for everything that is wrong in there life or with there health. I know where the blame lies and I'm the first place it has to start in order to change all for the better for my self and for those who are watching. A fine Christian man once told me that we all go through trials and tribulations in life for our own growth as well as for others who are watching how we react and deal with it all. this was some of the best information I ever heard and I've tried hard all my life to remember it. just like we always hear and I believe it is true. life is ten percent of what happens to us and 90% is how we deal with it. some of us and I'm talking about my self now, try to ignore things in life that may cause us to pay close attention to what is happening in our bodies. I never wanted to change my bad eating habits because eating what I liked and enjoyed made me happy I thought. I didn't really stop to think that it, being health problems would or could happen to me! who me? no way! I figured I was above all that and I could worry about it and be concerned about it later. like why do to day, what I can put off until to morrow. so put it off is what I done just so I could continue the bad eating habits and not exercise no more then I had to. lots of doctors told me I would get in trouble health wise if I didn't change. people like you guys on this list told me, folks who done it right also told me, but I had to do it my way and my way wasn't the best choice. infact, my way was a selfish way and very unfair to those that love me and enjoy having me around. I can't change what is all ready done from poor sugar control, but I can most certainly stop it from messing me up any more. I all most bought the farm with my last A fib trip over a week ago and to be honest with you, it scared the hell out of me this time! Some people have to be kicked in the head right between the eyes more then once before you can get there attention and I'm one of those people. I suppose there is a stubborn part of me that wants to do it the hard way and struggle swimming up the river instead of floating nice and easy down stream. I hear of all kinds of folks that have the operation that ties there belly up in a small knot and they drop over 100 pounds in six months! well it may work for them, but I know it wouldn't work for me. I would look at it is being to easy and it wouldn't be to long when I put that weight back on and more with it. I have to do it the hard way or the lessons learned won't stay with me. I do love you guys on this list and you really have helped me a lot. the doc yesterday was impressed that I had all the right answers to most of the questions he ask me about my diabetes. I learned it all from this list. I told him the truth was simple. I can talk the talk, but I haven't proved to any one yet that I can walk the walk. some call it practice what you preach! some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 you a fine man! but then you all ready knew that. Re: some questions please. To draw up a dose from a vile a blind person would need two things:a count-a-dose and 50cc syringes.At one time I had two count-a-dose, bvut I gave one to Wayne. I will look to see if I can find the other. If I do, I will send it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Your insulin pens should cost you in the neighborhood of $45 per box of 5. This is what I pay, and about what I've paid for years (it's gone up over the years). This is your co-pay for an " in network " supplier (or pharmacy). Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 And while Harry's offer to send you his count-a-dose is a very kind offer, don't mess with the vials and syringes. Just use the pens. They're actually slightly cheaper per unit of insulin, and much easier. To compare the costs, compare the cost of a vial (plus syringes) which is 1000 units, to the cost of a box of pens (1500 units of insulin). Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Dave, Then I presume that a pen contains 300 units? Cy _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of dave Bond Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:18 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. And while Harry's offer to send you his count-a-dose is a very kind offer, don't mess with the vials and syringes. Just use the pens. They're actually slightly cheaper per unit of insulin, and much easier. To compare the costs, compare the cost of a vial (plus syringes) which is 1000 units, to the cost of a box of pens (1500 units of insulin). Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Yes, each pen is pre-filled with 300 units of insulin. Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 You have a lovely attitude Mark. And yes, it is too bad you did not start the good attitude sooner, but keep on with it Man, and things will improve! _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:05 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. I'm all ready on a pretty good Medicare advantage plan that has the best coverage of the rest. I figured I could use the needle all day. he wishes me to test four times and this should work fine. glad to hear there is 5 pens in a box. could be the simple boxes he gave me holds only one per box. my sister did say I can go directly through the drug company and get help, but my doc has to fill out some kind of request every month. he acted like he actually cared about the money I may have to spend each month. ok I won't shoot my fat head! seems like it is bigger in fat then my belly though. as far as my attitude still being good? well most of where my health is right now isn't no fault of those who tried to tell me and worn me. this puppy belongs all to just big old me! we make our beds through life and we must sleep in them our self. having a bad attitude and crying about what is done and gone isn't going to help me or any one else who is watching what happens with me. I've heard that a positive attitude is half of the battle of getting well. I strongly believe this is so. I have found through my 55 years of life that the pity pot is for those who have bad attitudes and blame others for everything that is wrong in there life or with there health. I know where the blame lies and I'm the first place it has to start in order to change all for the better for my self and for those who are watching. A fine Christian man once told me that we all go through trials and tribulations in life for our own growth as well as for others who are watching how we react and deal with it all. this was some of the best information I ever heard and I've tried hard all my life to remember it. just like we always hear and I believe it is true. life is ten percent of what happens to us and 90% is how we deal with it. some of us and I'm talking about my self now, try to ignore things in life that may cause us to pay close attention to what is happening in our bodies. I never wanted to change my bad eating habits because eating what I liked and enjoyed made me happy I thought. I didn't really stop to think that it, being health problems would or could happen to me! who me? no way! I figured I was above all that and I could worry about it and be concerned about it later. like why do to day, what I can put off until to morrow. so put it off is what I done just so I could continue the bad eating habits and not exercise no more then I had to. lots of doctors told me I would get in trouble health wise if I didn't change. people like you guys on this list told me, folks who done it right also told me, but I had to do it my way and my way wasn't the best choice. infact, my way was a selfish way and very unfair to those that love me and enjoy having me around. I can't change what is all ready done from poor sugar control, but I can most certainly stop it from messing me up any more. I all most bought the farm with my last A fib trip over a week ago and to be honest with you, it scared the hell out of me this time! Some people have to be kicked in the head right between the eyes more then once before you can get there attention and I'm one of those people. I suppose there is a stubborn part of me that wants to do it the hard way and struggle swimming up the river instead of floating nice and easy down stream. I hear of all kinds of folks that have the operation that ties there belly up in a small knot and they drop over 100 pounds in six months! well it may work for them, but I know it wouldn't work for me. I would look at it is being to easy and it wouldn't be to long when I put that weight back on and more with it. I have to do it the hard way or the lessons learned won't stay with me. I do love you guys on this list and you really have helped me a lot. the doc yesterday was impressed that I had all the right answers to most of the questions he ask me about my diabetes. I learned it all from this list. I told him the truth was simple. I can talk the talk, but I haven't proved to any one yet that I can walk the walk. some call it practice what you preach! some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well Dave, LOL You make me laugh. Actually Mark could probably give himself an injection in his chubby cheeks. I would avoid anyplace there is hair however, as that may increase the rate of infection at the injection site. If you have a beard, Mark, your cheeks are out too! _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of dave Bond Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:59 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. You're a piece of work, Mark! LOL I don't know how you maintain a sense of humor with all you've been through. Hang in there! Now, to address some of your questions. Insulin pens aren't $300 per pen. They're around that for a box of 5. You said something about drawing your insulin, which is the term used if you were using a regular old syringe and a vial of insulin. Forget what he said about throwing the pen tip away after one use. Nonsense. You're exactly right, at $33 per box of 100, you want to get your monies worth! I use a pen tip around 4 times before chucking it. Basically, I change it every morning--one tip per day, so the box of tips will last 100 days. The reason you're still on an oral med is because you are a type 2, meaning your pancreas is still producing insulin, but your body is not receiving it. This is the difference between a t1 and a t2. And why a t1 will be able to use a smaller dose , because his/her body is not rejecting the insulin. And with many t2's, obesity is a lot of the problem with the insulin rejection. By all means, call the doc and have them re-write your prescription for your strips for the Prodigy. Only the Prodidgy strips will work in the Prodigy meter. Are you on Medicare? You need to have your sister (I think you said sister) look this up, and she'll want to look at what's called a Medicare advantage plan with prescription drug coverage. Have her look specifically for plans that give you the best deal on diabetic supplies, from your insulin pens to the tips to the Prodigy strips. These plans can change each year, so by the time you find one for this year and it's working, you may have to do the whole thing again for next year. I think that's it. Oh, one thing. I wouldn't recommend giving yourself injections in your head! Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Mark, The reason it is recommmmended to give shots in the tummy is because the absorption is best there. Make up a pattern on tummy in your mind so you do not give your shot continually in the same place They do the shots in the arm in the hospital becaue that is the easiest place for them to reach. If your insurance does not cove the insulin (and it does not cost $300 per cartridge), you have the right to appeal that. I don't know if your doct explained how that insulin works. It is 70% long acting insulin and 30% fast acting. It is important to eat the correct amount of carbs so that 30 %is not tooo much or too little ro cover the amount of carbs you eat- _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:38 AM To: blind diabetics Subject: some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's probably best that you call his office asap and advise him or his nurse that you are using the prodigy meter because no other strips will work. I think, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, that there are several brands of flex pins available and the doctor may need to check into getting you a different brand, or even a generic medication. take care. > as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 now that is to funny! I thought you were talking about another set of cheeks! but then last time I looked there wasn't any hair growing there! some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 to much Indian or messed up hormones to grow face hair, so suppose my fat cheeks in either place will do? some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 he didn't explain any of this about carbs. I do eat carbs at each meal, but I'm careful. if you got the extra time you could explain to me what I need to know. I got the carb counter that the list sent out a while back and this is what I use to know where I am. thanks. some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Let me get back to you tomorrow on this. I have to to bed early as I get up at 3:15AM to go to dialysis tomorrow. _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:45 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. he didn't explain any of this about carbs. I do eat carbs at each meal, but I'm careful. if you got the extra time you could explain to me what I need to know. I got the carb counter that the list sent out a while back and this is what I use to know where I am. thanks. some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Yes, but abdominal tissue has the best absorbtion rate! _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:42 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. to much Indian or messed up hormones to grow face hair, so suppose my fat cheeks in either place will do? some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Not to mention that you can’t even feel the needle when using the pen on a pinch of flesh on the stomach. I’m new at this pen stuff myself and was really really happy to find out it was painless. Rick From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Wolf Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:29 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: some questions please. Yes, but abdominal tissue has the best absorbtion rate! _____ From: blind-diabetics <mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blind-diabetics <mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:42 PM To: blind-diabetics <mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: some questions please. to much Indian or messed up hormones to grow face hair, so suppose my fat cheeks in either place will do? some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 another important thing I need to know is, how long do I got after I take my morning or evening shot until I actually eat? this would be very helpful to know like when I go out to eat with friends. seems like I have heard no more then twenty minutes after I give my shot. thanks. some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 What exactly is a Count-A-Dose? I have not been put onto insulin yet, but do n not think these Glyburide pills are doing the job. I have a problem keeping them at the exact times each day but still I am not feeling right. We have a lot of insulin here because it was prescribed to when he first was put on the feeding tube. I am not sure what to do with it and am afraid the doctor will eventually put me on it. I have seen the pens on TV and figure that will be my best bet to use for being accurate. was only taking about 2 or 4 units but I notice some of the people here are taking a lot more than that at a time. I notice the bottles are in a very tiny box and I forget how many units they said were in each one. He has one open and two other boxes. they have been chilled and were about $150 dollars. I heard they have a 2 year shelf life. I wonder what I should do with them. He also has syringes, a lot of them. So if they do not get prescribed to me, what would I do with them? I don't think I could have someone give it to me even without the doctor saying it was OK. We got it in August when he came home. Then started testing within the limits all the time and my son just dropped the testing. Then went off the feeder and we have not tested in a long time. Meanwhile mine is way above where it should be and sometimes low. Lora --- Original Message ----- To: <blind-diabetics > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: some questions please. > To draw up a dose from a vile a blind person would need two things:a > count-a-dose and 50cc syringes.At one time I had two count-a-dose, bvut I > gave one to Wayne. I will look to see if I can find the other. If I do, I > will send it to you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 A count a dose is a small, retangular plastic machine in which a 50 unit BD syringe fits in it and you can measure out the amount of insulin you neeed. Most people are prescribed insulin pens now. Ask your doc about the insulin. If you don't even know what kind it is, it is bsest to give it to the doc. How oftena are you checking your sugars? Are you keeping a record of them on the computer? Your doc seeing those results can help him in prescribing medication for you. _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Lora Leggett Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:14 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: Re: some questions please. What exactly is a Count-A-Dose? I have not been put onto insulin yet, but do n not think these Glyburide pills are doing the job. I have a problem keeping them at the exact times each day but still I am not feeling right. We have a lot of insulin here because it was prescribed to when he first was put on the feeding tube. I am not sure what to do with it and am afraid the doctor will eventually put me on it. I have seen the pens on TV and figure that will be my best bet to use for being accurate. was only taking about 2 or 4 units but I notice some of the people here are taking a lot more than that at a time. I notice the bottles are in a very tiny box and I forget how many units they said were in each one. He has one open and two other boxes. they have been chilled and were about $150 dollars. I heard they have a 2 year shelf life. I wonder what I should do with them. He also has syringes, a lot of them. So if they do not get prescribed to me, what would I do with them? I don't think I could have someone give it to me even without the doctor saying it was OK. We got it in August when he came home. Then started testing within the limits all the time and my son just dropped the testing. Then went off the feeder and we have not tested in a long time. Meanwhile mine is way above where it should be and sometimes low. Lora --- Original Message ----- From: " Harry Bates " <lindaharrybates@... <mailto:lindaharrybates%40bellsouth.net> > To: <blind-diabetics <mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: some questions please. > To draw up a dose from a vile a blind person would need two things:a > count-a-dose and 50cc syringes.At one time I had two count-a-dose, bvut I > gave one to Wayne. I will look to see if I can find the other. If I do, I > will send it to you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Within 20 minutes is a good rule of thumb, Mark. This is especially turue if your BG is already low or even in the normal range. If you meal is delayed for some reason, you could go into a low blood sugar. You can alaways give the insulin to yourself in the restaurant _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:53 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: some questions please. another important thing I need to know is, how long do I got after I take my morning or evening shot until I actually eat? this would be very helpful to know like when I go out to eat with friends. seems like I have heard no more then twenty minutes after I give my shot. thanks. some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I've always taken my Humalog immediately after eating. I know the textbook method is to take it before eating. Perhaps I'm strange and am not effected doing it this way. I literally take it as soon as I finish, often having to excuse myself from after dinner conversation or whatever. IF we have dessert (it we're at a birthday party for example), I take insulin after the dinner, then after the dessert. Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 some questions please. as you know I seen the diabetes specialist yesterday. he stopped my Glipizide, but I still take my met Forman 1000 twice a day and now I'm on the 70, 30, mix novalog flex pen. he has me on 20 units at breakfast and 20 units at dinner. I'm to keep track of my sugar readings 4 times a day and fax it to him next Tuesday. I found out from my drug store that these pens only cost right at $300 each. I don't think my insurance is going to cover them from what I'm hearing right now. he did say with my triglycerides being 1300, he would normally have me taking 50 units twice a day, but when he checked my sugar at his office my sugar was 140. I've been eating better in the last 5 weeks then at any time in my adult life and my triglycerides went up from last March of 500 to 1300 one year later. this doc said only insulin will bring the 1300 down. now, a q I got is how long after giving my self a shot do I have until I eat? home really isn't a problem, but what about when I go out to eat? I hope I can continue using the flex pen because they are just so easy, but at $300 a pen and they only hold 300 units, well if I was on 100 units a day as he said a man my size normally will take, then this means a $300 pen would last me 3 days! I would have to be a R N making $40 per hour to afford this cost a month. I may have to go back to school. another q is why do I always give my self a shot in my belly? I will admit this is where most of my fat is, but in the hospital they always give you your insulin in the arm just like a flue shot. well yesterday I was a blessed man because the doc gave me 3 flex pens. to me this is a $900 gift. he did ask me if I have to draw up my own shots using the bottles of insulin how would a totally blind person do it? now you would think as long as I have been on this list and all the times you guys have talked about doing it, why don't I know this answer? I suppose unless it is something you need to do your self, then you won't pay close attention to what is being said. I did tell him you guys do it and some of you can't see a lick, so if you can then no reason why I can't. I like the flex pen, but if I can't afford it then it is what it is. my sister does sell insurance supplements for the older folks, so she is looking in to finding a way I might go and get most of it payed fore. until then I have the 3 pens that if he leaves me on 40 units a day each will last one week. ok, now got another q. he wrote me a scrip for 360 test strips because he wants me to test more then I have been doing, but I forgot to tell him I use the prodigy voice. I know the information you get with the meter says to only use there strips, but will other strips work? the date on the prodigy are out dated the end of March of this year. sorry for so many different questions in one post, but if I don't put it all down here I probably will forget and make a bad decision later. I trust you guys all most as much and maybe more then a doctor. I know with my meter to test with I will use the same needle more then one day. I use it until it won't give me blood. what about the needles that I use in this flex pen? the doc said throw it away after my shot and don't use it again. he said they were cheap, but I paid $33 for 100. this isn't a lot but when you start adding all the rest in the price for everything does go up. I know that a high triglyceride can cause pancreatitis and I wish no part of that. he did say if I continue eating right and being careful, then he may not have to put me on 50 units twice a day. he did say I got some other issues with my hormons that he needs to address but plans to do that later. I did like the man even if he is hard to understand. I call him doc E. because no way I can wrap my tongue around his name. ok, no more questions right now. you know where I am at this moment and if up the road I have to do my shots by drawing up my own units, then we will cross that bridge when we get there. appreciate all you guys and I did tell him about you. he said it was grate that I had a support group to help me with my questions. one good thing is for more then a few weeks when I first woke up my reading was close to 300 and now for more then a week it is now under 200. probably the glipizide was doing it, but he took me off it. I do wonder why he would leave me on 1000 mg of met Forman twice a day as well as the insulin? well suppose he knows what he is about and from my numbers at my last blood test I have no clue or I'm just thinking bad things happen to others and never me! what a stupid thing to think, but I've had this attitude for at least 9 years and 5 months. to many trips to the hospital has finally got through to my thick head that this is serious business! maybe I should use my head to give my shots? it does seem to be the fattest part and not my belly. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I think it something like Novalog. Re: some questions please. > >> To draw up a dose from a vile a blind person would need two things:a >> count-a-dose and 50cc syringes.At one time I had two count-a-dose, bvut I >> gave one to Wayne. I will look to see if I can find the other. If I do, I >> will send it to you. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Dave - have you ever tested at one hour to see how high you are spiking when you bolus after you finish eating? Bolusing 15-20 minutes before eating is usually recommended because it gives the insulin time to kick in so that it matches the food better. Even the fast insulin analogues we have today take time to start working, while insulin that is naturally produced starts working literally a couple of minutes after we eat (and is done and gone within about ten minutes!). Having said that, I don't always pre-bolus, but I do often start a meal with a great blood sugar and spike quite high at one hour and am back down to almost normal at two. I could probably prevent the high spike by bolusing before I ate. I'm just not that organized sometimes! Jen > ** > > > I've always taken my Humalog immediately after eating. I know the textbook > method is to take it before eating. Perhaps I'm strange and am not effected > doing it this way. I literally take it as soon as I finish, often having to > excuse myself from after dinner conversation or whatever. IF we have > dessert (it we're at a birthday party for example), I take insulin after > the dinner, then after the dessert. > > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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