Re: Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the Inside

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Sally- I feel exactly the same!!! GingerSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:10:17 -0800 (PST)To: <IntuitiveEating_Support >Subject: Re: Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the Inside I hope you enjoy it Laurie. I have a banana w/ pb frequently in the morning. A friend told me she liked pb and gf and I thought it sounded disgusting until I tried it. I really have been relating to the posts the last few days, usually I just lurk, but I have been feeling so out of control that I thought maybe posting might help.Spring is upon us and the diet frenzy at work has begun. All I hear about is, no carb, Weight Watchers, only veggies..... and I am starting to feel out of control... like I am being sucked in. I have ALOT of weight to lose and everyone willingly starts conversations about their latest diet miracle and right now I can not handle it! I eat until satisfied and try to eat when hungry ( that needs alot more work )... feeling like my only solution is to diet has set up a couple of binges for me in the last few weeks... you know last supper mentality...and then I feel like I should punish myself when I do eat. I feel like I am losing control and losing my mind!Sorry for the long rant , but it feels good to get it out ( there is really noone I can say this stuff to ). SallyFrom: J W ELLER <jimbodog02@bellsout h.net>Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the InsideTo: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 8:58 AM Laurie, the combination of tira misu and grapefruit is a rather interesting combination, but it certainly has my vote. Just wondering what that slice would taste like with some fresh strawberries rather than the grapefruit. Jeanne

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I thin learning to vote from the inside takes (or can take) quite a while! I've been doing this for a year and a half, and I am still working on this a lot!

I think that one of the things that was challenging for me was that I felt like I was supposed to eat protein with every meal, and had been doing so for years, mainly bc I noticed that my energy levels were stable when I ate that way (though it did not make me lose weight). Then when I started IE it felt like a glorious rebellion to eat just carbs for meals! Now I am somewhere in the middle. I try to eat protein with meals, but I don't have a rule about it, and most importantly, I never eat protein with carbs if I'm no longer hungry after I eat the carbs. That's really key for me, paying attention to my hunger.

I guess I think the key is suspending judgement, and not having rules, but just paying really close attention. Observing all your body's reactions to different foods, and making note of them. I think over time your memories of those thoughts will be added on to your memories of those tastes... and then you can make an " educated " decision... ie last time I ate nothing but cake for breakfast it tasted great but I felt lousy afterwards... but some eggs sound ok, so ill eat those first but make sure to save room for some cake afterwards.

A couple other things I've learned from my own experiences... try to make the fresh, natural choices just as easy as the pre packaged stuff, so the choice is really about taste, not convenience. This may mean planning ahead so you have things prepared for when you get hungry.

Also, a hard lesson for me for quite a while... just bc you crave something doesn't mean you HAVE to eat it, if there's other things that sound good too, and that would make yr body feel better, u can choose them instead... this is the voting with yr stomach idea. But if the only thing that will do is that one thing, then you eat that.

And I still sometimes don't succeed with all this... it's a work in progress...

Abby

 

Hi Sally,

It's good that you're venting your frustration.  If I had to listen to all those conversations about diet, I'd want to scream! 

It does sound like the thought of dieting leads to last supper eating, and it would for me also.  That's why I am very, very careful to continually committ to allowing all foods no matter what. 

As for the eat when hungry and stop at comfortable satiation, that's a wonderful aim, and it takes practice.  And it's ok to eat when not hungry once in while because it's not like a rigid diet rule.  Progress not perfection.

Tonight I was more hungry than usual, and probably because I am up late, lol, so I had a moment of hesitation when I got hungry about 20 min. ago; for a second I thought, could I really be hungry AGAIN?  I was a skeptic for a second, but then I was almost 100 % sure I was reading my body correctly, so I ate an amount that would make me just satiated, but not more because I want to be hungry soon after I awake in the morning.

This stuff is trial and error sometimes, and that's ok; it's how we learn for ourselves.  If someone told us exactly what to do all the time it would be like a diet and we'd rebel totally, so we have to find out for ourselves with the books and others for support and guidance.

 

Laurie

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Subject: Re: Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the Inside 

I hope you enjoy it Laurie. I have a banana w/ pb frequently in the morning. A friend told me she liked pb and gf  and I thought it sounded disgusting until I tried it. I really have been relating to the posts the last few days, usually I just lurk, but I have been ...

>>> From: lori <laurietessyahoo (DOT) com>> Subject: Re: [intuitiveEating_ Support] Re: Slowly Legali...

> To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.com> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:38 PM>>  > Hi ...

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Ps I don't think there's any way to speed up by the process except by being patient with yourself... counterintuitive.

 

Hate to jump in so late on this thread, but…

 

I agree with the concept of “voting with the stomach” but I’m

finding it hard to learn how to do it.  I’m slowly getting there I guess but

all too often the instant gratification of the taste loses out to how it’s

going to feel (and how I’m going to feel) after I eat it.

 

When I sit here right now, not hungry, and think about what I

want to eat the next time I am hungry I want balance, fresh flavors and

nutrition.  When I get hungry peanut butter filled pretzels, fried food and

other less nutritionally advantageous foods sound appealing.

 

Is there some way to speed up this learning process or is it

just something that my brain and body have to negotiate together over time?

 

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Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:49 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting

for the Inside

  Hi Sue,Yes I know what you mean about needing something with fiber, fat and protein.  I'm ...

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Sally,

I try to remember (objectively) the excitement and hope that I felt when I started a new diet... and then remember the crushing feeling of defeat and disappointment and failure when the diet didn't work for me, and especially after I rebounded from the diet.

IE is stepping off that merry go round. You let go of the risk of failure but also the excitement and optimism. IE is much less exciting of the roller coaster exhiliration type... but I really don't think you can fail when yr goal is about learning to make peace no matter what you weigh.

Their dieting attempts are statistically doomed to failure. Its so hard not to get sucked in but try to remember the diet hangover. And write to us as often as you want for a reality check!

Abby

 

I hope you enjoy it Laurie. I have a banana w/ pb frequently in the morning. A friend told me she liked pb and gf  and I thought it sounded disgusting until I tried it.

 

I really have been relating to the posts the last few days, usually I just lurk, but I have been feeling so out of control that I thought maybe posting might help.

Spring is upon us and the diet frenzy at work has begun. All I hear about is, no carb, Weight Watchers, only veggies..... and I am starting to feel out of control... like I am being sucked in. I have ALOT of weight to lose and everyone willingly starts conversations about their latest diet miracle and right now I can not handle it! I eat until satisfied and try to eat when hungry ( that needs alot more work )... feeling like my only solution is to diet has set up a couple of binges for me in the last few weeks... you know last supper mentality...and then I feel like I should punish myself when I do eat. I feel like I am losing control and losing my mind!

Sorry for the long rant , but it feels good to get it out ( there is really noone I can say this stuff to ).

 

Sally

> Subject: Re: Re: Slowly Legalizing Foods: Voting for the Inside

> To: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:38 PM

 

> Hi Sally,> I've never tried g.f. and pb, but you've piqued my curiousity and i'll have to try it...

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>>  > another combination that is odd but good. Grapefruit and peanut butter>  > Sally>> --- O...