Re: very suspicious son-rise program

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It's not a scam....they've been around for a ling time.Alison in MASent from my iPhone

Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

shannon

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There have been several on this list I believe (or the others I am on) that have done and enjoyed/benefited from Sonrise.Good luck!

 

Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

shannon

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I have no experience with them, but they've been around for many many years. Decades. Your experience would probably turn me off, too. They may use an "admissions" person (much like your career, tech, and vocational schools do.) It's almost always commission-based. Basically, its their job to follow up, then follow up somemore with you to get you through the door. Think of an army recruiter and how they just don't go away lol! Not a good approach if that's the case here. I'd come right out and ask. They're probably not going to skip town with your money, though. -tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 1:52:01 PMSubject: very suspicious son-rise program

Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam :(shannon

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I have not done it.....but I know that of several moms who do it and love

it....Not sure of results....

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Kasey Dettinger

---- Toni Marie Lombardo wrote:

> There have been several on this list I believe (or the others I am on) that

> have done and enjoyed/benefited from Sonrise.

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> Good luck!

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> > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to

> > talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call

> > up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your

> > contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth,

> > etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its

> > a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been

> > sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for

> > treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds

> > like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

> >

> > shannon

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> --

> Toni

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> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

We have been doing SonRise for my son and we love it! One of the best things so

far we have done for him (besides the bio-medical approach). I don't remember

what they asked me the first time I called them but probably the reason they

asked you for your contact info is because they send free DVD's with videos of

basically to get the idea what SonRise is and if you think it is appropriate for

your child.

HTH,

Krassi

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> Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to talk

to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up -you

talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your contact

info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc... before

you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or a

possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the idea

by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and

training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big

sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

> shannon

>

[Guest guest]

I want to throw in my 2 cents on SonRise. I watched the videos and I talked to a

parent who is having great success with the program...their child is very

involved but this program is the first time in years they've had any success

with bonding, eye contact, and beginnings of interaction. I called the program

and had my free consultation, under the guise that I am a therapist looking to

add SonRise to my practice (which is true, but I was also considering it for my

son which I did not mention to them). The whole process had a little bit of

cultish feel to it, and I can see why people are suspicious.

the program seems to be a wonderful way to love, respect, and bond with your

child, especially if you have not had the good fortune to bond previously. I

love the attitude that I am not trying to " fix " my son, but rather accept and

love him, and help guide him gently to interact more with us in our world,

rather than stay inside his own. That said, it's a lot lot lot lot lot of money

for someone to tell me to love my child and to be more respectful of him instead

of pushing and forcing him so much. We changed our approach and immediately

things were calmer, less stressful at home, and our son was so much happier.

Understand that we were not being cruel before, we were just pushing him to

succeed, mostly out of fear for his future.

But I also have the benefit of being a therapist and working " in the biz " so I

don't need to be taught how to design a program or how to slowly change the

activities to help DS join us, expand his play skills, or try new things without

feeling like we took away all his stuff. If you do need this, and you have the

money and the incredible amount of time you'll need, then it sounds like a

wonderful program. I have several families who are looking into it. I am a big

supporter of " whatever works, go for it. "

Just my humble opinion!

R

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> > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to

talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up

-you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your

contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc...

before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or

a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the

idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and

training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big

sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

> > shannon

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What your saying probably applies to the general population... I am sure I see it in NT families too, where the kids are pushed hard to be successful and not enjoyed for the children they are.I guess it's like a lot of therapies... you can do it at home for cheaper if YOU can do it. Like, it's cheaper to homeschool then to send to private school, but can you mentally be there every moment to do the " job " and not be frustrated and tired? Some of us can't be there to do these things, and have to rely on therapy.

Last night we had our first RDI session for my son... well mostly it was me talking about our history. But anyway, it seems silly that I can't do this at home... but there ya go! LOL

 

I want to throw in my 2 cents on SonRise. I watched the videos and I talked to a parent who is having great success with the program...their child is very involved but this program is the first time in years they've had any success with bonding, eye contact, and beginnings of interaction. I called the program and had my free consultation, under the guise that I am a therapist looking to add SonRise to my practice (which is true, but I was also considering it for my son which I did not mention to them). The whole process had a little bit of cultish feel to it, and I can see why people are suspicious.

the program seems to be a wonderful way to love, respect, and bond with your child, especially if you have not had the good fortune to bond previously. I love the attitude that I am not trying to " fix " my son, but rather accept and love him, and help guide him gently to interact more with us in our world, rather than stay inside his own. That said, it's a lot lot lot lot lot of money for someone to tell me to love my child and to be more respectful of him instead of pushing and forcing him so much. We changed our approach and immediately things were calmer, less stressful at home, and our son was so much happier. Understand that we were not being cruel before, we were just pushing him to succeed, mostly out of fear for his future.

But I also have the benefit of being a therapist and working " in the biz " so I don't need to be taught how to design a program or how to slowly change the activities to help DS join us, expand his play skills, or try new things without feeling like we took away all his stuff. If you do need this, and you have the money and the incredible amount of time you'll need, then it sounds like a wonderful program. I have several families who are looking into it. I am a big supporter of " whatever works, go for it. "

Just my humble opinion!

R

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> > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable like it was a scam

> > shannon

> >

>

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

What is RDI?

Yes I agree completely. I would love to homeschool, but there is just no way it

would happen. And I take my son to a different therapist even though I could do

the therapy myself...because I don't do it myself and he won't work for me. At

least he's normal in that area!!

Thanks, about SonRise, yes that was my point that I didn't convey very well...we

want our kids to be successful in all areas and when there is autism or another

problem, in the panic to recover him, it's easy to go overboard. We were being

too strict, trying to prevent him from stimming/perseverating on things, trying

to teach him what normal behavior was. Then we realized...if we let him draw the

same picture every night, and sing the same song to him in his way every night,

he goes right up, ready for bed with no protesting, so happy and sweet. If we

refuse him these stupid little things, he is just so sad and upset. Duh!!

I just hope people go into a program like SonRise with their eyes and ears open

and their brains turned on, rather than clinging desperately to something

because they want it to help so badly. Easier said than done though, says the

mom with a cabinet full of supplements and a closet full of therapy equipment!

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> > > > Hey just curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call

> > to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you

> > call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all

> > your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of

> > birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or

> > not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had

> > already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend

> > the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move

> > ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable

> > like it was a scam

> > > > shannon

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Whenever I start to worry about my son's future and what it might hold for him, I remind myself of one of my favorite scriptures:

"..add to your faith virtue, knowledge, self -control, perseverance, godliness, brotherly kindness and love...

for if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful...." 2 1:5-8

I hope this brings the same peace for you all as it does for me : )

-tammy

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 8:54:32 AMSubject: Re: very suspicious son-rise program

What is RDI?Yes I agree completely. I would love to homeschool, but there is just no way it would happen. And I take my son to a different therapist even though I could do the therapy myself...because I don't do it myself and he won't work for me. At least he's normal in that area!! :)Thanks, about SonRise, yes that was my point that I didn't convey very well...we want our kids to be successful in all areas and when there is autism or another problem, in the panic to recover him, it's easy to go overboard. We were being too strict, trying to prevent him from stimming/perseverating on things, trying to teach him what normal behavior was. Then we realized...if we let him draw the same picture every night, and sing the same song to him in his way every night, he goes right up, ready for bed with no protesting, so happy and sweet. If we refuse him these stupid little things, he is just so sad and upset. Duh!! I just hope people

go into a program like SonRise with their eyes and ears open and their brains turned on, rather than clinging desperately to something because they want it to help so badly. Easier said than done though, says the mom with a cabinet full of supplements and a closet full of therapy equipment! > > > >> > > > Hey just

curious if anyone has dealt with these people before. I call> > to talk to someone. they say they have a free consultation. then when you> > call up -you talk to an appt setter who opens an account for you? wants all> > your contact info, name address email, etc... and childs name, date of> > birth, etc... before you ever even get to talk to someone about whether or> > not its a match or a possibility. SOUNDS FISHY!! Unfortunately, i had> > already been sold on the idea by the website info and was willing to spend> > the money for treatment and training but now i am too concerned to move> > ahead. Its sounds like some big sales gimmick- i felt really uncomfortable> > like it was a scam > > > > shannon> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Toni>

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