Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 A synonym for diabetes is unpredictable. As well as, illogical, and mysterious. I've found certain high fat foods (saturated fats) will hang on and raise blood sugars, even the next day. What did you have to eat the day before that might be in this category? Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Harry, When I was using Lantus, I found it not to be very good at lowering high glucose levels. Lantus acts over a 22 to 23 hour period, so for me, I found that the effect of lowering a high glucose level was not be that great over an eight hour period. I now use a pump, and I usually take 1 unit of humolog to lower my glucose level 20 points, but at bed time since I will not be eating for a longer period of time, I take half of what I would ordinarily take during the day. For example, if my glucose level is 200 at bed time I would take 2.5 units of humolog instead of the usual 5. This approach may be peculiar just to me, however. I hope this helps. Danny At 11:38 AM 3/1/2012, you wrote: > > >Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My >indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of >Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the >following morning is between 80 and 90 points >lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will >usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the >dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. >This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is >only 2 points lower than what it was last night. >It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Lantus is not designed to lower high blood sugar levels, only to hold blood sugar steady when not eating. A high at bedtime should be corrected with rapid-acting insulin, maybe less than you would use during the day to correct the same high, though (and maybe checking at 3:00 AM to make sure you don't go low). Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 At supper time last night my glr was 162, and I ate a small hamburger and a big chili from Windys.I dosed according to indocrinologist recommendations plus one more unit of Humalog, which was a total of 28 units of Humalog. I estimated my total carb consumption at around 55 grams of carbs. At bedtime my glr was 266 when I dosed the Lantus of 32 units. After forgetting that I had dosed Humalog once after supper, then dosing again to be sure I had appropriate insulin, in the middle of the night I went into a diabetic coma, and wound up in the hospital for a few days. In my fear of such an event again I do notlike to take Humalog before bedtime. If I ever do, I will be sure to check it again in the middle of the night as Jen suggested.Still pondering these points, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Danny, whereas one unit of Humalog may lower your glr 20 points, usually one unit of Humalog will only lower my glr by five or at most six points. This tells me I have a lot more insulin resistance than you do. Thanks for the pointer,Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Harry, Lantis is a long term acting insulin and will not lower glr quickly. You need fast acting insulin to do that such as humalog or novalog. _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Harry Bates Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:39 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 well I just got home from being in the hospital for 3 days with my heart trying it's best to jump out of my body, but A fib will do this some times. they never could get my sugar under 200 the whole time I was there. it never went over 300, but never under 200. I picked out of the meal plates they gave me what they said was diabetes friendly and of course it wasn't. still being careful my sugars remained high. yesterday they took it around noon and it was 278. she said I was getting 10 units of novalog and later it was 213. then I got 12 more units best I recall and it only dropped to 205. they sent me home with a pill that they said will act just like insulin and I have to be real careful with it and not take it if I'm to low. so now I take met forman 1000 twice a day and this new pill in the morning with breakfast. I know infection and stress will cause our sugar to be high, but why wouldn't mine come down with all those units of novalog they were giving me? Wednesday morning my fasting sugar was 275 and I hadn't ate for 18 hours. well maybe it is all for the good. the hospital insisted that I now go see a diabetes specialist when I can get in. my last A1C was down to 8 from over 13. I'm going in to day to find out what it is now. they gave me some kind of powerful meds to help with the A fib problem and after reading the paper with the warnings, well I all most decided to not take the medicine, but when they tell you it is a matter of life and death! suppose if it didn't kill me in 3 days at the hospital, then maybe it won't at home. as soon as I can get some one to read me the names of my 2 new drugs for diabetes and A fib, I will let you guys know. maybe some one here is taking it or knows more about it then I do. I figured this trip to the hospital they would take me off my pills and put me on the needle, but they say they plan to continue the pills for a bit longer. I've been told I'm taking the highest dolce of met forman I can take. beats me though how they figure pills will bring my sugar down if the units of novalog couldn't do it in the hospital. I do recall one nurse said they had me on mild diabetes care and was bringing me up to the next step. I had no clue what any of this was about. suppose it mint they would attack it harder and get meaner. ok, just thought I would help Harry out a bit and tell my story with the novalog not helping me either with sugars in the range from 200 to 300. It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 what i found the time i had to stay overnight is they dont give the amount of insulin we need they were only giving me like 6 units and here at home i am doing 15 to 20 units so my blood sugar was high while i was in there . i have been doing so good the past two weeks yesterday the highest mine got was 167 i have found someone to tell my readings to and what i am eating and if it isnt good i hearr about it so i am doing the best to keep it in line . this morning at 5 am it was 146 . amy It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 The hospital staff probably keeps diabetics on the high side so they don't need to deal with a patient with hypoglycemia. I think a lot of your problem with high blood sugars could be due to the stress and your ailment. Who knows, perhaps the meds you were on jacked it up also. Hang in there! Dave ~~ Now available: THE ATTACHÉ! -- From Desert Breeze Publishing ~~ Visit: http://www.authordavidbond.com Upcoming releases: A TIME TO BUILD -- June, 2012 SWEET MUSIC -- October, 2012 A TIME TO HEAL -- February, 2013 OUT OF THE DESERT -- July, 2013 A TIME TO DANCE -- November, 2013 It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 When my sister, who is diabetic, had a heart attack, they could not get her BG down with insulin for about a week. They told her that anyone having heart problems makes the liver put out excessive amounts of glucogon. It is trying to help the body recover from using up so much glucose when the hart problems occur . I'm glad to hear you are going to see an endocrinologist. Let us know. Tell hem you had theis heart problem and your doctor wants to see him/her ASAP. _____ From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 6:43 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: It makes no sense well I just got home from being in the hospital for 3 days with my heart trying it's best to jump out of my body, but A fib will do this some times. they never could get my sugar under 200 the whole time I was there. it never went over 300, but never under 200. I picked out of the meal plates they gave me what they said was diabetes friendly and of course it wasn't. still being careful my sugars remained high. yesterday they took it around noon and it was 278. she said I was getting 10 units of novalog and later it was 213. then I got 12 more units best I recall and it only dropped to 205. they sent me home with a pill that they said will act just like insulin and I have to be real careful with it and not take it if I'm to low. so now I take met forman 1000 twice a day and this new pill in the morning with breakfast. I know infection and stress will cause our sugar to be high, but why wouldn't mine come down with all those units of novalog they were giving me? Wednesday morning my fasting sugar was 275 and I hadn't ate for 18 hours. well maybe it is all for the good. the hospital insisted that I now go see a diabetes specialist when I can get in. my last A1C was down to 8 from over 13. I'm going in to day to find out what it is now. they gave me some kind of powerful meds to help with the A fib problem and after reading the paper with the warnings, well I all most decided to not take the medicine, but when they tell you it is a matter of life and death! suppose if it didn't kill me in 3 days at the hospital, then maybe it won't at home. as soon as I can get some one to read me the names of my 2 new drugs for diabetes and A fib, I will let you guys know. maybe some one here is taking it or knows more about it then I do. I figured this trip to the hospital they would take me off my pills and put me on the needle, but they say they plan to continue the pills for a bit longer. I've been told I'm taking the highest dolce of met forman I can take. beats me though how they figure pills will bring my sugar down if the units of novalog couldn't do it in the hospital. I do recall one nurse said they had me on mild diabetes care and was bringing me up to the next step. I had no clue what any of this was about. suppose it mint they would attack it harder and get meaner. ok, just thought I would help Harry out a bit and tell my story with the novalog not helping me either with sugars in the range from 200 to 300. It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 they got me my first apt on March 8, which is this coming Thursday. will let you know about it after. thanks. It makes no sense Last night my bedtime glr was 266. My indocrinologist recommends I dose 30 units of Lantus at bedtime. Usually my fasting glr the following morning is between 80 and 90 points lower. When my bedtime glr is over 200 I will usually add an additional unit of Lantus to the dose. Last night I dosed 32 units of Lantus. This morning my fasting glr was 264, which is only 2 points lower than what it was last night. It makes no sense. Still scratching my head, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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