Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Sohni: I don't think combining any kind of food is 'necessary' for everybody. However, I prefer to eat when I feel hungry, foods that satisfy me and then not feel hungry for awhile. I observed that I feel unhungry longer when I eat meals which contain fiber, fats, proteins and carbs. When I eat vegan meals, I stay 'unhungry' longer if I combine legumes with grains or seed or grains with nuts, rather than just eating grains with vegies or fruit. However, I know that everybody is different. Some people like to feel hungry many times a day. So they get to eat smaller meals or snacks many times a day. I prefer 3 balanced meals and one snack daily. I don't like to graze, because it reminds me too much of bingeing. When I eat balanced meals, I have a definite start eating cue (hunger) and a definite stop eating cue (fullness/satisfaction). However, I realize others have different, but perfectly normal, intuitive eating preferences. SUE > > > > > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a > > day. It > > > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also > > like eating > > > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? > > Can I > > > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act > > like a > > > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate > > the way I > > > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just > > give up > > > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these > > issues. > > > > > > Alia > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I'm trying to think what I eat when I have a vegan meal. Usually a bunch of veggies and beans or tofu--I love lentils--but not much in the way of grains. I'm not actually vegan, or really vegetarian for that matter. I just don't eat much meat, and I have some vegan recipes I really like. Tonight I'm having tofu, eggplant, cauliflower, avocado, and salsa with a sprinkling of cheese. In my head it sounded good, but I was afraid it might really be kinda gross. Fortunately, it tastes just the way I thought it would! I feel the same way you do about grazing. It's easy for me to slip into it because of my erratic schedule, but I think I do better eating less frequently and more at one time. Sohni sue wrote: Hi Sohni: I don't think combining any kind of food is 'necessary' for everybody. However, I prefer to eat when I feel hungry, foods that satisfy me and then not feel hungry for awhile. I observed that I feel unhungry longer when I eat meals which contain fiber, fats, proteins and carbs. When I eat vegan meals, I stay 'unhungry' longer if I combine legumes with grains or seed or grains with nuts, rather than just eating grains with vegies or fruit. However, I know that everybody is different. Some people like to feel hungry many times a day. So they get to eat smaller meals or snacks many times a day. I prefer 3 balanced meals and one snack daily. I don't like to graze, because it reminds me too much of bingeing. When I eat balanced meals, I have a definite start eating cue (hunger) and a definite stop eating cue (fullness/satisfaction). However, I realize others have different, but perfectly normal, intuitive eating preferences. SUE > > > > > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a > > day. It > > > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also > > like eating > > > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? > > Can I > > > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and act > > like a > > > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate > > the way I > > > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I just > > give up > > > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these > > issues. > > > > > > Alia > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 The vegetarian thing isn't anything I would compromise on. I feel very strongly about not eating meat.. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. Alia ----- Original Message ----- > Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than > discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole > categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive > you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have > dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully > combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins > (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may > seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided > choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier > sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4864 (20100213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Alia: I wasn't suggesting you not eat vegetarian. It's easier to eat high protein vegetarian meals than vegan meals, because vegetarian includes dairy and eggs, which vegan meals do not include. I only talked about vegan protein combinations, because I can either eat meats or vegan protein, rather than dairy, egg or soy, which are 3 of my 7 diagnosed allergies. After watching the documentary " Food, Inc. " , I'm experimenting with more vegan protein sources. Fortunately we found a vegan nonsoy burger that both my husband and I enjoy. He's also fond of my beans and rice vegan dishes. SUE > > The vegetarian thing isn't anything I would compromise on. I feel very > strongly about not eating meat.. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. > > Alia > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Unless you have diagnosed allergies or really bad reactions (other than > > discomfort after overeating) to certain foods, eliminating whole > > categories of foods (like grains, meats, fats) can unnecessarily deprive > > you of healthy nutrients. I often prepare vegan meals, because I have > > dairy and egg allergies, and want a break from meats. However, I carefully > > combine legumes with grains or seeds to make sure I have complete proteins > > (all the necessary amino acids), rather than just eating vegies. That may > > seem like a 'head' decision, rather than an internal, intuitively guided > > choice. However, I observed I don't feel as satisfied and feel hungrier > > sooner, when I eat unbalanced (incomplete protein) vegan meals. > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4864 (20100213) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Sue, Do you have a good recipe for vegan burgers? I have one for chickpea patties, but not for burgers. Would love to try it if yours is good. I've been vegetarian off and on as an adult, and I tried out a lot of vegan recipes when I was in my last healthy eating restrictive phase--the vegan food was good, but not the restricting part. I'm in the habit of eating pretty healthily now (outside of binges, sigh), which is why I'm not having the struggle over eating less healthy foods that some have to contend with in the earlier stages of IE. Other aspects, though, are quite a challenge! Sohni sue wrote: Hi Sohni: I didn't consider tofu as part of a vegan meal, because I have a diagnosed soy allergy and can't eat tofu. Tofu is a more complete protein. So most people don't combine that with grains or nuts. My vegan meals consist of legumes and grains (like rice or quinoa) or vegan burgers made from brown rice and sunflower seeds. Sometimes I have a bean soup with rice bran to thicken the broth. However, I'm not a 'vegan' breakfasts, sometimes vegan lunches and occasioinally vegan dinners. I occasionally eat meat (sausage) for breakfast, sometimes meat sandwiches for lunch and often meat entres for dinner. I look for variety within my allergy free choices. SUE > > > > > > > > > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie range a > > > > day. It > > > > > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also > > > > like eating > > > > > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this dieting? > > > > Can I > > > > > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, and > > act > > > > like a > > > > > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know I hate > > > > the way I > > > > > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I > > just > > > > give up > > > > > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused on these > > > > issues. > > > > > > > > > > Alia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > > > signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> <http://www.eset.com > > <http://www.eset.com>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi Alia, Are you maybe feeling a little discomfort with a less structured way of eating or unsure about whether you can really trust your body signals when it comes to eating? I had just blown my last diet, was desperate and searching for a better way when I found this support group. The whole IE thing seemed to make such more sense than where I was and where I had been. Maybe you've been searching for a better way also? Don't abandon IE yet! If you haven't had the opportunity to do so, may I suggest you go out and get yourself a copy of the book 'Intuitive Eating' by Tribole and Elyse Resch to learn more about the IE process. Hang in here with us a little longer!! Think you will find that the IE process is a very worthwhile and life changing journey! All the best, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sohni, question please, actually two. I tried eggplant years ago but couldn't find a way to prepare it that I liked. Thought I might try it again and was wondering how you prepare it. I enjoy tofu but only have it went when we go out to eat. I'd appreciate information on preparing it as a main course. Appreciate the info. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'll chime in here, Jeanne. I love eggplant. Here are a few suggestions. Slice it into thin (1/2") discs, batter them & fry them in a pan, like cutlets. You can serve them with pasta & red sauce, or put them on a sandwich. Yum! You can also also make ratatouille, which is a veggie stew with diced eggplant, onions, bell peppers, celery, etc., in a tomato sauce w/garlic & basil & pepper. You can basically throw any veggies in with it -- cauliflower, broccoli, whatever. Simmer till the eggplant is squshy. Not traditional, maybe, but it makes a great side dish or vegetarian stew over rice. Third option is eggplant stuffing -- boil the eggplant & mash it w/breadcrumbs and onions (plus green pepper & celery if you want, either raw or sauteed) and some kind of protein -- I use shrimp or pork sausage, but it would work well with tofu or mock duck too. Or eggs. Spice w/garlic cayenne & oregano, bake till crispy, voila! Enjoy! -----Original Message-----From: IntuitiveEating_Support [mailto:IntuitiveEating_Support ] On Behalf Of J W ELLERSent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:02 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Re: Re: what do I do? Sohni, question please, actually two. I tried eggplant years ago but couldn't find a way to prepare it that I liked. Thought I might try it again and was wondering how you prepare it. I enjoy tofu but only have it went when we go out to eat. I'd appreciate information on preparing it as a main course. Appreciate the info. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Thanks so much, Harry, for the suggestions! Sounds absolutely YUM-O!! My taste buds are a little more mature than when I first tried eggplant. Guess I need to prepare the husband for a little tasty eggplant experience next week. By the way, I forgot to thank you for the suggestions you gave me on fennel. We had it with pork chops and all I can say is wonderful!! Hope you're having a great day! Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi Jeanne, I'm a pretty lazy cook. I can make more complicated dishes when I have time (and I have a really good vegan chana masala recipe if anyone is interested), but usually my time and brain are limited, so I go for fast and easy. Eggplant I either grill in slices or wedges, brushed with olive oil (grilled eggplant is really good), or I cut it into 1/2" wedges along with a bunch of other veggies (cauliflower, brussels sprouts, zucchini, onions, peppers, mushrooms, etc.). Drizzle with a little olive oil, sprinkle salt and pepper, and roast at 350 for 1/2 an hour. Stir, then roast another 1/2 hour, and eat it with pasta, rice, or whatever. I also have an Indian eggplant dish I make that sometimes I like, but my husband really likes it (he's half Armenian). I'm not big on fried foods, so I don't ever fry it. I usually just throw tofu in with the roasted veggies, or if I make a stir fry. I like the silken tofu in broth soups, too. You're supposed to press firm or extra firm tofu to get out the excess liquid before you cook with it (put a plate on top of it with something to weight it down), but like I said, I'm a lazy cook! If you press it and then cut it into cubes, you can fry it and add it to dishes if you like that texture. Tofu also takes marinades and sauces very well, so you can try any favorites you might have. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Sohni, question please, actually two. I tried eggplant years ago but couldn't find a way to prepare it that I liked. Thought I might try it again and was wondering how you prepare it. I enjoy tofu but only have it went when we go out to eat. I'd appreciate information on preparing it as a main course. Appreciate the info. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Thanks, Sohni! I really appreciate it! Got some really good suggestions from Harry also! Don't blame you at all for going with the fast and easy! Love it myself! Who wants to slave over a hot stove for hours? I'm not a vegetarian, but I seem to feel better when I eat more veggies, carbos and smaller amounts of protein. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have three pressure cookers and they are awesome to use if you eat a lot of things like beans or like to steam veggies. Makes perfect steamed asparagus. You can steam tofu, too, if you like it that way. Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Thanks, Sohni! I really appreciate it! Got some really good suggestions from Harry also! Don't blame you at all for going with the fast and easy! Love it myself! Who wants to slave over a hot stove for hours? I'm not a vegetarian, but I seem to feel better when I eat more veggies, carbos and smaller amounts of protein. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Steamed tofu!!! You're kidding, right? You can actually steam tofu! Sorry to sound so ignorant, but I never knew that you could steam soybean curd. I really like beans, lentils, white cheeses, chicken and fish! Got a wonderful recipe for black beans and rice with chicken and Tuscan-style chicken with Italian sauteed beans if you're interested. But I'm ready to step out to more new and healthy eating experiences! Just hope my beloved husband is ready for the experience with me!! My best to you, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sure, send the recipes to my email. I'm willing to try anything once--and if everyone in the family likes it, all the better. You can steam tofu; I do use a pressure cooker, so it steams pretty quickly and without using much liquid. Then just use any kind of sauce you like. It makes a softer tofu, but I like it that way. Heck, I like it just about any way you can make it--I'm not too picky about my 'fu. : p Sohni J W ELLER wrote: Steamed tofu!!! You're kidding, right? You can actually steam tofu! Sorry to sound so ignorant, but I never knew that you could steam soybean curd. I really like beans, lentils, white cheeses, chicken and fish! Got a wonderful recipe for black beans and rice with chicken and Tuscan-style chicken with Italian sauteed beans if you're interested. But I'm ready to step out to more new and healthy eating experiences! Just hope my beloved husband is ready for the experience with me!! My best to you, Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi Sohni: I have several recipes for vegan burgers, but I've never used them. LOL I found 'Sunshine (vegan) Burgers' in my local Whole Foods Store after my doctor described them on his blog. Most 'vegan' burgers have a soy protein base. However, with my soy allergy, I was pleased to find that Sunshine burgers were made with brown rice, sunflower seeds, carrots, sea salt and herbs. We love the 'original' and 'garden' flavors, but the barbeque flavor is sweeter and spicier than my husband likes. We wouldn't even try the 'southwest' flavor with jalapeno pepper. Here's the website, which describes the ingredients and retail locations (where you can buy them): http://sunshineburger.com I can eat soy free vegan, but not vegetarian, because I have dairy, egg and soy allergies. However, I can also eat any meats. So I'm not a fulltime 'vegan'. I just like vegan entrees, because I can digest vegan protein combinations more easily that I can digest meats. I need to take betaine hydrochloride to digest most meats (fish and chicken), because a misdiagnosis of gastritis led to several years of taking acid blockers, when I actually had low stomach acid and celiac disease. At least I didn't lose any organs in any unnecessary surgeries like other celiacs before they were finally diagnosed with CD. SUE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like counting calories, staying within a certain calorie > > range a > > > > > > day. It > > > > > > > doesn't make me anxious if I go over, but I like knowing. I also > > > > > > like eating > > > > > > > healthy foods, and try to avoid unhealthy ones. Isn't this > > dieting? > > > > > > Can I > > > > > > > even do intuitive eating? I just want to be a normal weight, > > and > > > > act > > > > > > like a > > > > > > > normal eater, but I don't know what that is anymore. I know > > I hate > > > > > > the way I > > > > > > > feel when I eat grease, and sugar, and I am vegetarian. So do I > > > > just > > > > > > give up > > > > > > > ie and accept I like the structure of dieting? so confused > > on these > > > > > > issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > > virus > > > > > > signature database 4863 (20100213) __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > <http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>> <http://www.eset.com > > <http://www.eset.com> > > > > <http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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