Re: Diabetes/accepting oneself.

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Eileen,Why put fat in quotation marks? That seems to discount the person who is a 14, as if they aren't allowed to call or feel themselves as fat because they are a size 14. I know plenty of people who have eating disorders who feel fat at a size 4, I also think about the Tong'an King who used to surf at over 350 pounds, he surely did not feel fat. Its a subjective experience that in this community requires empathy and understanding for the journey we are all taking on the road to self acceptance. Everyone has their own journey with their own benchmarks and are unique. The point about IE and body acceptance is to stop using these markers such as pant size and weight as a linear good, better, best contest but to live within who we are in the now and accept that unconditionally.

JennaTo: Intuitive Eating Support <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 1:45:20 PMSubject: Diabetes/accepting oneself.

It is easier to accept oneself as 'fat' if one is a size 14 than if one is a size 20 or 26. I would LOVE to be a size 14.So far no matter how much I try to eat intuitively some part of me still gets in the way about what I think I 'should' be eating as a diabetic. My ego is so strong that it can't seem to let go and surrender to the body's needs. I will keep working on it.Eileen

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I understand what Eileen is saying completely. I felt very fat at a size 14, 40 years ago way back in the beginning of my eating disorder days. Now at a size 20-22, I absolutely hate the way I look and struggle everyday to come to grips with it. That's not discounting the size 14 person at all, it's being truthful about the way we feel inside these morbidly obese bodies. Those who feel horribly fat at a size 4 would most likely be suicidal in my body. It's an extremely painful existence. I want to be successful at IE but nothing will ever make me feel all this hanging fat is pretty and I will never be attracted to a man who looked this way. I'm also not healthy this way and I have some dexterity and mobility issues because of it. So how does one realistically begin learning IE and also lose weight? I really need some good help with that.

Sunny

Diabetes/accepting oneself.

It is easier to accept oneself as 'fat' if one is a size 14 than if one is a size 20 or 26. I would LOVE to be a size 14.

So far no matter how much I try to eat intuitively some part of me still gets in the way about what I think I 'should' be eating as a diabetic. My ego is so strong that it can't seem to let go and surrender to the body's needs. I will keep working on it.

Eileen

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Sunny, I hear your pain and your struggle for self acceptance. My issue here was that comparing sizes is kind of like, "my story is worse than yours" argument which nullifies the experience that individual is having which is real and unique to them. It DID feel like I was being discounted when Eileen said what she said because I am a size she would love to be at ergo my issues are simply not as real... I have ALSO been a size 20, a size 10 and everything in between. I was unhappy at each of those sizes when I was a size 10 I felt as fat as when I was a size 20. I realized it had to do with my psychology which I am working on so that my self worth, acceptance and even love of this body that is alive is a positive journey. Anyone on tumblr? They have some great fatshion blogs of

women of all sizes and when I see these beautiful ladies looking awesome it helps me screw my head on right when negative thoughts start coming in. I mean, we are all we got, right? I will never put myself down again in that way... I have had lifetimes of it. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 7:14:30 PMSubject: Re: Diabetes/accepting

oneself.

I understand what Eileen is saying completely. I felt very fat at a size 14, 40 years ago way back in the beginning of my eating disorder days. Now at a size 20-22, I absolutely hate the way I look and struggle everyday to come to grips with it. That's not discounting the size 14 person at all, it's being truthful about the way we feel inside these morbidly obese bodies. Those who feel horribly fat at a size 4 would most likely be suicidal in my body. It's an extremely painful existence. I want to be successful at IE but nothing will ever make me feel all this hanging fat is pretty and I will never be attracted to a man who looked this way. I'm also not healthy this way and I have some dexterity and mobility issues because of it. So how does one realistically begin learning IE and also lose weight? I really need some good help with that.

Sunny

Diabetes/accepting oneself.

It is easier to accept oneself as 'fat' if one is a size 14 than if one is a size 20 or 26. I would LOVE to be a size 14.

So far no matter how much I try to eat intuitively some part of me still gets in the way about what I think I 'should' be eating as a diabetic. My ego is so strong that it can't seem to let go and surrender to the body's needs. I will keep working on it.

Eileen