Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 This zinc stopped the chewing: http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@315@Product_Group_ID@1.\ aspx He used to put holes in clothing, sheets, etc. I tell people about it when I am out and about and see an adult with a towel in their mouth. > > ... has always been a big chewer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 How much zinc do you give? My daughter takes this and she still chews everything and grinds her teeth terribly.I wonder if I am giving enough.To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 10:42:16 PMSubject: Re: Supplement Break This zinc stopped the chewing: http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ViewProductDetails@Product_ID@315@Product_Group_ID@... He used to put holes in clothing, sheets, etc. I tell people about it when I am out and about and see an adult with a towel in their mouth. > > ... has always been a big chewer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Is there anyway there's a lead problem? The reason I ask is that my son didn't absorb zinc too well until we started chelation. I went around and tested things in my home. I had looney tunes glasses all with lead paint (drank out of these while pregnant, nursing you name it), old nesting bowls (served family meals in these, the paint on these were wearing off in the dishwasher)...lead paint, and those vertical blinds on our sunporch, lead. Lead will not show up in blood tests unless current ongoing exposure because it is tightly bound in the bones. But with growth spurts and bone turnover, lots will come out. Lead inhibits zinc which will in turn affect vitamin A absorption. I'm trying to remember some other things it affects. But if it's there you will have chewing and major problems that come and go. jenib > > > > ... has always been a big chewer... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 We give 30 mg caps at night. But my kids still have some mouthing issues, and probably need more. I just don't like the idea of giving too much since it can be a toxicity issue. Some guideline out there in internet land says take their weight plus 20 and give that many mg. So for my kids that would be like 50 and 60 mg doses daily, instead of 30 mg. That probably would fix our problems, but I'm being a chicken-shit. :-) How much zinc do you give? My daughter takes this and she still chews everything and grinds her teeth terribly.I wonder if I am giving enough. -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 My son has similar issues but we were told not to start chelation till his zinc levels go up, which is not happening even with very high supplementation on different best brands out there. It seems that we are stuck in a loophole. What zinc levels did your son have when you started chelation and what chelator did you use? My son's levels are very low, in the border between low red and yellow.Thanks,Mimoza Is there anyway there's a lead problem? The reason I ask is that my son didn't absorb zinc too well until we started chelation. I went around and tested things in my home. I had looney tunes glasses all with lead paint (drank out of these while pregnant, nursing you name it), old nesting bowls (served family meals in these, the paint on these were wearing off in the dishwasher)...lead paint, and those vertical blinds on our sunporch, lead. Lead will not show up in blood tests unless current ongoing exposure because it is tightly bound in the bones. But with growth spurts and bone turnover, lots will come out. Lead inhibits zinc which will in turn affect vitamin A absorption. I'm trying to remember some other things it affects. But if it's there you will have chewing and major problems that come and go. jenib > > > > ... has always been a big chewer... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I have read that zinc monomethionine is very well absorbed. Just an FYI... Re: Re: Supplement Break My son has similar issues but we were told not to start chelation till his zinc levels go up, which is not happening even with very high supplementation on different best brands out there. It seems that we are stuck in a loophole. What zinc levels did your son have when you started chelation and what chelator did you use? My son's levels are very low, in the border between low red and yellow. Thanks, Mimoza On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, wrote: Â Is there anyway there's a lead problem? The reason I ask is that my son didn't absorb zinc too well until we started chelation. I went around and tested things in my home. I had looney tunes glasses all with lead paint (drank out of these while pregnant, nursing you name it), old nesting bowls (served family meals in these, the paint on these were wearing off in the dishwasher)...lead paint, and those vertical blinds on our sunporch, lead. Lead will not show up in blood tests unless current ongoing exposure because it is tightly bound in the bones. But with growth spurts and bone turnover, lots will come out. Lead inhibits zinc which will in turn affect vitamin A absorption. I'm trying to remember some other things it affects. But if it's there you will have chewing and major problems that come and go. jenib > > > > ... has always been a big chewer... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Scull cap or cuprem met will balance copper zinc ratio may be why not being absorbed > My son has similar issues but we were told not to start chelation till his > zinc levels go up, which is not happening even with very high > supplementation on different best brands out there. It seems that we are > stuck in a loophole. > What zinc levels did your son have when you started chelation and what > chelator did you use? My son's levels are very low, in the border between > low red and yellow. > > Thanks, > > Mimoza > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM, > wrote: > >> >> >> Is there anyway there's a lead problem? The reason I ask is that my son >> didn't absorb zinc too well until we started chelation. I went around and >> tested things in my home. I had looney tunes glasses all with lead paint >> (drank out of these while pregnant, nursing you name it), old nesting >> bowls >> (served family meals in these, the paint on these were wearing off in the >> dishwasher)...lead paint, and those vertical blinds on our sunporch, lead. >> Lead will not show up in blood tests unless current ongoing exposure >> because >> it is tightly bound in the bones. But with growth spurts and bone >> turnover, >> lots will come out. Lead inhibits zinc which will in turn affect vitamin A >> absorption. I'm trying to remember some other things it affects. But if >> it's >> there you will have chewing and major problems that come and go. >> >> jenib >> >> >> >> > > >> > > ... has always been a big chewer... >> > >> >> >> > -- Cotter 4 Pollerton Manor Carlow 059 9134964 087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Supplement vacations are a good idea. We did an extended one while we regrouped and changed DAN! docs. At first my son seemed better. Then slowly he fell apart in the next 2-3 months. He was in really bad shape by the time we began with our new doc. Anxiety thru the roof! Pamela From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of SeraphineSent: Friday, March 11, 2011 5:31 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Supplement Break We decided to give my 5 year-old son a week-long supplement break, which we started on Tuesday. I'm seeing no change in behavior, whatsoever - this really surprises me! His poops have gone from mushy to pretty constipated, and from every day to every other day. This morning he woke up with a cold.I cut out the following sups & meds:ASD multi w/out the B vitaminsB-complex transdermal creamCarnitAllD-3DMGSpeakTrienzaSingulair Folinic AcidL-TaurineZinc Citrate NystatinCO-Q10Kartner KHP probiotics5-HTPWe have not cut out the mB12 injections or melatonin, on the advice from our DAN. When we go back to adding sups (slowly - one every 3 days), I will replace Speak with Kirkman CLO, zinc citrate with zinc monomethionine, Kartner probiotics with Klaire detox support, and drop Nystatin. As soon as I get his bloodwork drawn and have baselines, I have a rx for Diflucan to begin. I think everything else will stay the same.I just realized something! He is not chewing nearly as much as he was even a few days ago. has always been a big chewer, ever since we started the mB12. He prefers plastic items or his sleeves. I wonder if any of his sups we pulled were causing the chewing. We always assumed it was the mB12. Since I'm seeing constipation cropping up, as well as a cold, should I still wait until Tuesday to add anything back? I'm very tempted to add back his multi, digestive enzymes, and D-3 right now. Any thoughts?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 When my son was 2.5 and 30 pounds, I could not get his zinc to budge after 18 months of 50mg/day, so I went to 100mg/day of zinc picolinate and he seemed find and then I went to 150mg. 5 months later, I dropped back to 50 mg and then tested his level again and he was finally in range. Caryn > > > > > > > > ... has always been a big chewer... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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