Re: From pro dieter to normal overeater: Thoughts while Eating

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Hi Abby: I find that when I really don't LOVE what I'm eating, my mind often

drifts to other things, even when I don't have distracting tv or reading

material. Also when I begin to feel satisfied and/or full, I stop thinking

about how good the food tastes. Sometimes, at that point I start thinking about

how many more bites I can consume before I feel full. LOL

Susie Orbach in " On Eating " says: " Stop eating the moment you stop savoring the

food or the moment your mind wanders away from the sensation of the food. " She

also suggests: " Notice the thoughts that have turned your focus away from your

eating. Are they negative, disconcerting or frightening thoughts? Are they

exciting or pleasurable thoughts? Turn your attention to them. They are more

important than eating right now ... If you can't write them down or think about

them at the time, remind yourself to do so later. They matter. They can help you

understand why you eat when you are not hungry. Knowing yourself more fully will

allow you to interrupt the habit of eating without awareness. "

SUE

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> > thinking about food or weight.Are others who have been doing IE finding that

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> Abigail C. Wolfson, RN, MS, CPNP

> LICH School Based Health Center

> Brooklyn New School & Brooklyn School for Collaborative Studies

> 610 Henry Street, Room 209

> Brooklyn, NY 11231

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[Guest guest]

Sue, hope this doesn't sound crazy, but you are truly one of the most tuned in with self people I've ever met! Sure hope, with time and patience, I can learn to be more plugged in with myself.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Yes I agree, very helpful and encouraging information here. Thanks also to the

person who suggested AAT to me. I'm sure that might have been you Sue, I do

apologize that I do not remember.

Thanks,

Jo.

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> Sue, hope this doesn't sound crazy, but you are truly one of the most tuned in

with self people I've ever met! Sure hope, with time and patience, I can learn

to be more plugged in with myself.

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> Jeanne

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jeanne. Time and patience (and reading many different IE related books)

helped me become more self-aware. However, having conditions that many doctors

misdiagnose or discount, like celiac disease, food allergies and painful

intestinal infections, also taught me to pay attention to symptoms, rather than

suppress them with medication. Perhaps that helped me become more aware of

stomach sensations.

SUE

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> Sue, hope this doesn't sound crazy, but you are truly one of the most tuned in

with self people I've ever met! Sure hope, with time and patience, I can learn

to be more plugged in with myself.

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> Jeanne

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jo. I'll take credit for recommending AAT. LOL I learned lots from that

book.

SUE

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> > Sue, hope this doesn't sound crazy, but you are truly one of the most tuned

in with self people I've ever met! Sure hope, with time and patience, I can

learn to be more plugged in with myself.

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[Guest guest]

One of my real struggles with the IE process has been determining what comfortable fullness feels like for me. Guess I can attribute that to being so tuned out with myself for so many years. It has been a real education reading your posts!

Thanks!

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,I've been thinking about what you say about LOVING what you are eating. I am often eating something that i dont LOVE. i'm not very interested in food a lot of the time and nothing really sounds all that good, yet I'm quite hungry and really need to eat.

Suggestions? I wonder sometimes if my lack of interest is because my body wants to release excess weight... though the opposite is happening. I dont think I'm having negative thoughts, just drifting, thinking about organizing my coat closet, or patients from work, or journalling, or whatever... not feeling stressed. 

I'm going to check out the Appetite Awareness Workbook. it sounds interesting.best,abby

 

Hi Abby: I find that when I really don't LOVE what I'm eating, my mind often drifts to other things, even when I don't have distracting tv or reading material. Also when I begin to feel satisfied and/or full, I stop thinking about how good the food tastes. Sometimes, at that point I start thinking about how many more bites I can consume before I feel full. LOL

Susie Orbach in " On Eating " says: " Stop eating the moment you stop savoring the food or the moment your mind wanders away from the sensation of the food. " She also suggests: " Notice the thoughts that have turned your focus away from your eating. Are they negative, disconcerting or frightening thoughts? Are they exciting or pleasurable thoughts? Turn your attention to them. They are more important than eating right now ... If you can't write them down or think about them at the time, remind yourself to do so later. They matter. They can help you understand why you eat when you are not hungry. Knowing yourself more fully will allow you to interrupt the habit of eating without awareness. "

SUE

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> > > hi, my name is . It may sound like a silly question but what is

> > the difference between a binge and overeating? I'll definately check out

> > appetite awareness book. Even though I am not overeating, I notice that if I

> > eat from mouth hunger I feel as if I am breaking a rule so maybe to have a

> > guideline that doesn't provoke guilt. I look forward to when I am not

> > thinking about food or weight.Are others who have been doing IE finding that

> > they aren't thinking about food?

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> Abigail C. Wolfson, RN, MS, CPNP

> LICH School Based Health Center

> Brooklyn New School & Brooklyn School for Collaborative Studies

> 610 Henry Street, Room 209

> Brooklyn, NY 11231

>

> (fax)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Abby: Maybe you need to honestly examine what you believe about eating and

weight loss. If you really want to lose weight you may not want to love what you

eat, because you fear you might overeat foods you love. Or you might not really

believe that you deserve to enjoy what you eat, because you want/need to lose

weight. Obviously, I don't know what you really believe about eating, your body,

weight loss, etc. However your beliefs influence your actions and your

emotional reactions to whatever happens.

If you're uncertain what you believe, listen carefully to your self-talk, when

you prepare meals, when you eat, when you shop for foods, when you look in the

mirror, when you try on clothes, or any other time that you might have food or

body related thoughts. Your thoughts reflect your basic beliefs. If those basic

beliefs don't embrace freedom to eat foods you love, you might explore and

challenge your core beliefs about what you deserve.

SUE

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> Hi Sue,

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> I've been thinking about what you say about LOVING what you are eating. I am

> often eating something that i dont LOVE. i'm not very interested in food a

> lot of the time and nothing really sounds all that good, yet I'm quite

> hungry and really need to eat.

>

> Suggestions?

>

> I wonder sometimes if my lack of interest is because my body wants to

> release excess weight... though the opposite is happening.

>

> I dont think I'm having negative thoughts, just drifting, thinking about

> organizing my coat closet, or patients from work, or journalling, or

> whatever... not feeling stressed.

>

> I'm going to check out the Appetite Awareness Workbook. it sounds

> interesting.

>

> best,

>

> abby

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