Can I tell you guys something freaky about oxalates and her pee this morning?

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I was in the middle of making breakfast this morning when Maia woke up.  The stove's still and I have things cooking so I put her on the potty to go pee and when she was done, I just left the potty as is until I was finished cooking, and giving her her morning enzymes, got her a juice and mixed some iodine in it, and finished making breakfast for her and lunch/breakfast for my little guy because he has daycare today.  So I didn't get back to dump out the potty full of pee for about an hour.

I've always dumped it out right away and this was the first morning that I didn't dump it immediately.  When I got back to it, all this " stuff " had settled to the bottom.  It was darkish sediment (that's the best way I can to describe it.  The thing is when I first looked at it, this stuff wasn't in there.  But when it was left unmoved for a while, this fine powdery-like sediment stuff settled to the bottom of the potty!!!!  When I moved the potty, this stuff started swirling and then become suspended in the rest of the fluids again when I swished it around a few times in the potty.  It was so freaky!  It looked like fine sediment that would have settled if you have muddyish water and left it for a while still in a jar and you could see all the dirt settle at the bottom.  It was so freaky to see.  This stuff that settled at the bottom was very very fine sediments.  It was reddish-brownish.  Kind of like the color of the lugols solution (I know it wasn't the lugols). 

Really freaky to see.  She had a climbing escapade while I was in the bathroom on Sunday and got into a bag of Enjoy Life chocolate chips I had from a few months ago but forgot to get rid of.  I'm guessing she might be having an oxalate dump from that?  Toni, does that sound plausible -- that if she ate a whole heap of oxalates on Sunday, that she might be dumping them now?

It always sends my mind reeling when I see a large amount of stuff like this in her pee.

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Yep. The first thought I had was oxalates and the "grainy poop" Toni talks about. My kiddos eat a couple of high ox foods. Their poops are good, but grainy nearly everyday. I've just assumed it's oxalates.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:49:35 AMSubject: Can I tell you guys something freaky about oxalates and her pee tis morning?

I was in the middle of making breakfast this morning when Maia woke up. The stove's still and I have things cooking so I put her on the potty to go pee and when she was done, I just left the potty as is until I was finished cooking, and giving her her morning enzymes, got her a juice and mixed some iodine in it, and finished making breakfast for her and lunch/breakfast for my little guy because he has daycare today. So I didn't get back to dump out the potty full of pee for about an hour.I've always dumped it out right away and this was the first morning that I didn't dump it immediately. When I got back to it, all this "stuff" had settled to the bottom. It was darkish sediment (that's the best way I can to describe it. The thing is when I first looked at it, this stuff wasn't in there. But when it was left unmoved for a while, this fine powdery-like sediment stuff settled to the bottom of the

potty!!!! When I moved the potty, this stuff started swirling and then become suspended in the rest of the fluids again when I swished it around a few times in the potty. It was so freaky! It looked like fine sediment that would have settled if you have muddyish water and left it for a while still in a jar and you could see all the dirt settle at the bottom. It was so freaky to see. This stuff that settled at the bottom was very very fine sediments. It was reddish-brownish. Kind of like the color of the lugols solution (I know it wasn't the lugols). Really freaky to see. She had a climbing escapade while I was in the bathroom on Sunday and got into a bag of Enjoy Life chocolate chips I had from a few months ago but forgot to get rid of. I'm guessing she might be having an oxalate dump from that? Toni, does that sound plausible -- that if she ate a whole heap of oxalates on Sunday,

that she might be dumping them now?It always sends my mind reeling when I see a large amount of stuff like this in her pee.

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It's kinda crazy, because the carnosine wasn't quite working the way I wanted it to back in December just before I started LOD.  Albeit, I have increased the dosage but I just wasn't getting any verbal imitation (and just prompted imitation in general was kind of hard to get out of Maia).  In fact, everything seems like it's absorbing better or working as it should now and I see different " delays " lifting now, particularly in pointing and prompted imitation (even verbal imitation these days).  Spontaneous word approximations are going through the roof and are being generalized in her preschool now (she is actually attempting to verbally communicate with her teachers, although her teachers can't quite understand yet what she's saying and sometimes I understand, other times I don't).  I can prompt approximations now, too...which was completely unthinkable months ago.  We're still far from recovered but I addressing oxalates is a MUST for us.  I've been going around foaming at the mouth about oxalates. 

Oxalates are evil!  In fact, they're more evil than parasites in my books.  They stop your supplements from working, they prevent cellular absorption, they disrupt and really mess with cellular metabolism because the cell is full of these stupid oxalates that do nothing but take up cellular space but don't do anything, which then disrupts all kinds of other metabolism in the bigger picture.  And I think the longer I don't deal with it, the more of these things accumulate in tissues, and I'm pretty sure it really messes with different metabolic processes over time.

The weird thing is that the last time we did our live blood cell analysis and Maia had already been doing LOD for about two months, our DAN did notice that Maia's cells looked a little small and he said that we definitely needed this cell food stuff that I could get at an HFS and it gives trace minerals to the cell.  I think when I started LOD, the cells were releasing all the oxalates that were in the cells but I didn't think to give it something to absorb to replace the oxalates that were taking up the cells.  The trace minerals and chlorophyll worked quite well for her and everything else (in terms of supps) has just started working so much better.  It's like all supps are being absorbed and used now.  I think before we were doing LOD, a lot of this stuff was just not getting absorbed and just leaving her system (or worse yet, just accumulating). 

I cursed the oxalates before I flushed them down the toilet this morning.

 

Yep.  The first thought I had was oxalates and the  " grainy poop " Toni talks about.  My kiddos eat a couple of high ox foods.  Their poops are good, but grainy nearly everyday.  I've just assumed it's oxalates.

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Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:49:35 AMSubject: Can I tell you guys something freaky about oxalates and her pee tis morning?

 

I was in the middle of making breakfast this morning when Maia woke up.  The stove's still and I have things cooking so I put her on the potty to go pee and when she was done, I just left the potty as is until I was finished cooking, and giving her her morning enzymes, got her a juice and mixed some iodine in it, and finished making breakfast for her and lunch/breakfast for my little guy because he has daycare today.  So I didn't get back to dump out the potty full of pee for about an hour.

I've always dumped it out right away and this was the first morning that I didn't dump it immediately.  When I got back to it, all this " stuff " had settled to the bottom.  It was darkish sediment (that's the best way I can to describe it.  The thing is when I first looked at it, this stuff wasn't in there.  But when it was left unmoved for a while, this fine powdery-like sediment stuff settled to the bottom of the

potty!!!!  When I moved the potty, this stuff started swirling and then become suspended in the rest of the fluids again when I swished it around a few times in the potty.  It was so freaky!  It looked like fine sediment that would have settled if you have muddyish water and left it for a while still in a jar and you could see all the dirt settle at the bottom.  It was so freaky to see.  This stuff that settled at the bottom was very very fine sediments.  It was reddish-brownish.  Kind of like the color of the lugols solution (I know it wasn't the lugols). 

Really freaky to see.  She had a climbing escapade while I was in the bathroom on Sunday and got into a bag of Enjoy Life chocolate chips I had from a few months ago but forgot to get rid of.  I'm guessing she might be having an oxalate dump from that?  Toni, does that sound plausible -- that if she ate a whole heap of oxalates on Sunday,

that she might be dumping them now?It always sends my mind reeling when I see a large amount of stuff like this in her pee.

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Oooh, that sounds way painful about the pee, Toni!  What do oxalates feel like in your joints?

 

Yep. I had a juicer drink on Sunday, and the crystals are making their home in my joints right now. Apparently I didn't send them to the excretory route well enough LOL Yesterday morning it was like I was peeing razors, so I took 1000 mg of L-arginine and that problem resolved. Wish the joint problem would.

 

I was in the middle of making breakfast this morning when Maia woke up.  The stove's still and I have things cooking so I put her on the potty to go pee and when she was done, I just left the potty as is until I was finished cooking, and giving her her morning enzymes, got her a juice and mixed some iodine in it, and finished making breakfast for her and lunch/breakfast for my little guy because he has daycare today.  So I didn't get back to dump out the potty full of pee for about an hour.

I've always dumped it out right away and this was the first morning that I didn't dump it immediately.  When I got back to it, all this " stuff " had settled to the bottom.  It was darkish sediment (that's the best way I can to describe it.  The thing is when I first looked at it, this stuff wasn't in there.  But when it was left unmoved for a while, this fine powdery-like sediment stuff settled to the bottom of the potty!!!!  When I moved the potty, this stuff started swirling and then become suspended in the rest of the fluids again when I swished it around a few times in the potty.  It was so freaky!  It looked like fine sediment that would have settled if you have muddyish water and left it for a while still in a jar and you could see all the dirt settle at the bottom.  It was so freaky to see.  This stuff that settled at the bottom was very very fine sediments.  It was reddish-brownish.  Kind of like the color of the lugols solution (I know it wasn't the lugols). 

Really freaky to see.  She had a climbing escapade while I was in the bathroom on Sunday and got into a bag of Enjoy Life chocolate chips I had from a few months ago but forgot to get rid of.  I'm guessing she might be having an oxalate dump from that?  Toni, does that sound plausible -- that if she ate a whole heap of oxalates on Sunday, that she might be dumping them now?

It always sends my mind reeling when I see a large amount of stuff like this in her pee.

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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In my wrists, it feels like carpal tunnel, in my knuckles it feels like they need to be popped... or like I imagine stiff joints that become arthritis would feel like.I agree about the evilness of oxalate. I think decreasing it in the diet is one way to make leaps in other therapies. Because it helps the mitochondria. So whatever we do to help the mitochondria is just going to help everything else work better.

Last year, my son could handle no b12. This year he is still hyper/stimmy from it, but he seems able to process it better and it is helping the way other people say it helped them.I am always looking for new things to try... next might be the grain-free thing, this summer... I am thinking of eliminating every grain but rice " soon, " as a test to see what kind of improvements we make at that point.

 

Oooh, that sounds way painful about the pee, Toni!  What do oxalates feel like in your joints?-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...

Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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This is probably the 10th time you've blown my mind. I was just looking at cell food the other day at whole foods and put it on my list of things to investigate. What do yu know about it???

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:11:31 AMSubject: Re: Can I tell you guys something freaky about oxalates and her pee this morning?

It's kinda crazy, because the carnosine wasn't quite working the way I wanted it to back in December just before I started LOD. Albeit, I have increased the dosage but I just wasn't getting any verbal imitation (and just prompted imitation in general was kind of hard to get out of Maia). In fact, everything seems like it's absorbing better or working as it should now and I see different "delays" lifting now, particularly in pointing and prompted imitation (even verbal imitation these days). Spontaneous word approximations are going through the roof and are being generalized in her preschool now (she is actually attempting to verbally communicate with her teachers, although her teachers can't quite understand yet what she's saying and sometimes I understand, other times I don't). I can prompt approximations now, too...which was completely unthinkable months ago. We're still far from recovered but I addressing oxalates is a

MUST for us. I've been going around foaming at the mouth about oxalates. Oxalates are evil! In fact, they're more evil than parasites in my books. They stop your supplements from working, they prevent cellular absorption, they disrupt and really mess with cellular metabolism because the cell is full of these stupid oxalates that do nothing but take up cellular space but don't do anything, which then disrupts all kinds of other metabolism in the bigger picture. And I think the longer I don't deal with it, the more of these things accumulate in tissues, and I'm pretty sure it really messes with different metabolic processes over time.The weird thing is that the last time we did our live blood cell analysis and Maia had already been doing LOD for about two months, our DAN did notice that Maia's cells looked a little small and he said that we definitely needed this cell food stuff that I could get at an HFS and

it gives trace minerals to the cell. I think when I started LOD, the cells were releasing all the oxalates that were in the cells but I didn't think to give it something to absorb to replace the oxalates that were taking up the cells. The trace minerals and chlorophyll worked quite well for her and everything else (in terms of supps) has just started working so much better. It's like all supps are being absorbed and used now. I think before we were doing LOD, a lot of this stuff was just not getting absorbed and just leaving her system (or worse yet, just accumulating). I cursed the oxalates before I flushed them down the toilet this morning.

Yep. The first thought I had was oxalates and the "grainy poop" Toni talks about. My kiddos eat a couple of high ox foods. Their poops are good, but grainy nearly everyday. I've just assumed it's oxalates.

To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:49:35 AMSubject: Can I tell you guys something freaky about oxalates and her pee tis morning?

I was in the middle of making breakfast this morning when Maia woke up. The stove's still and I have things cooking so I put her on the potty to go pee and when she was done, I just left the potty as is until I was finished cooking, and giving her her morning enzymes, got her a juice and mixed some iodine in it, and finished making breakfast for her and lunch/breakfast for my little guy because he has daycare today. So I didn't get back to dump out the potty full of pee for about an hour.I've always dumped it out right away and this was the first morning that I didn't dump it immediately. When I got back to it, all this "stuff" had settled to the bottom. It was darkish sediment (that's the best way I can to describe it. The thing is when I first looked at it, this stuff wasn't in there. But when it was left unmoved for a while, this fine powdery-like sediment stuff settled to the bottom of the

potty!!!! When I moved the potty, this stuff started swirling and then become suspended in the rest of the fluids again when I swished it around a few times in the potty. It was so freaky! It looked like fine sediment that would have settled if you have muddyish water and left it for a while still in a jar and you could see all the dirt settle at the bottom. It was so freaky to see. This stuff that settled at the bottom was very very fine sediments. It was reddish-brownish. Kind of like the color of the lugols solution (I know it wasn't the lugols). Really freaky to see. She had a climbing escapade while I was in the bathroom on Sunday and got into a bag of Enjoy Life chocolate chips I had from a few months ago but forgot to get rid of. I'm guessing she might be having an oxalate dump from that? Toni, does that sound plausible -- that if she ate a whole heap of oxalates on Sunday,

that she might be dumping them now?It always sends my mind reeling when I see a large amount of stuff like this in her pee.