Re: Diet for diabetic, good for over all health for all.

[Guest guest]

Actually Mark, I just read that the average man eats at least 3000 calories

a day and need only about 2000.

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From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth

Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 3:33 PM

To: blind diabetics

Subject: Diet for diabetic, good for over all health for

all.

seems to me that if every one would follow a diabetic diet, no one much

would have a weight issue or have bad health. of course there is cancer and

strokes and getting ran over by a car, but most would have good health over

all by following a diet that a diabetic eats with good sugar control. most T

2 diabetes is from over eating and having to many pounds hanging on. the T 1

is born with it and it is some what different then what a T 2 has. the diets

though will work grate for both types and if the whole world would follow

and eat and exercise the same? well wouldn't be the need for so many

doctor's. we got some restaurants here in OkC that serve only healthy food

and they are never packed. those restaurants that are all you can eat and

there food is loaded with tasty carbs and fat are standing room only. I have

heard there is more people running around right now who are a T 2 and

haven't been told yet, then there is diabetics that they know about. they

also said heart disease is number one killer in America, but they believe

diabetes will in only ten years be number on instead. how many carbs do you

think the normal Joe Blow eats in one day? I heard it is around 300. this

sounds like a lot to us, but it is only 100 per meal and when you stop to

figure up what they are mostly eating in a meal, then it isn't so hard to

figure why. I was one of them for many years and probably would be still to

day if my heart didn't get sick because of high sugars. I'm telling you

right now I have learned real fast that you can do best eating right if you

don't go out to eat that much.

[Guest guest]

A nurse once told me that we need ten calories per pound to maintain our

weight. eat fewer and you lose, eat more and you gain. so weighing in last month

at 300 plus, this means if true I was eating 3000 calories a day to maintain

that weight. must be some truth in this she said, because I was staying right

around the 315 area for 7 years. now I'm eating around 1000 and no more then

1200 all the time for the past month. I'm losing for sure, but no quickly. 3000

calories in one day maybe right, but if that fellow or lady swings by the local

fast food joint and grabs a large chocolate shake on the way home? could be that

daily calorie count just jumped to 4000. have you ever noticed that not much

difference in cost between large and extra large? I think they do it on purpose.

I know folks who will tell you if they just order food from the dollar menu

only, they are cutting there calories this way. I guess they truly believe that

dollar food has less calories because they order more and think it isn't hurting

them. I don't eat hardly any fast food at all and never have. just don't really

like fast food. do dig ice cream in a con though. do get the small one these

days and not the large as I once did. have figured out that the small is ok and

will take the hunger away. most people never stop to think that all the little

bites they take all day long do add up to a total amount of calories. my goal is

always to remain under 120 2 hours after I ate. some I know try to just stay

under 160 and they are happy. each to his own! I do think it is best to set a

top number that you wish to stay under and not go over if you plan to control

your A1C. of course staying under 120 every meal is a hard restricted diet to

stay on.

Diet for diabetic, good for over all health for

all.

seems to me that if every one would follow a diabetic diet, no one much

would have a weight issue or have bad health. of course there is cancer and

strokes and getting ran over by a car, but most would have good health over

all by following a diet that a diabetic eats with good sugar control. most T

2 diabetes is from over eating and having to many pounds hanging on. the T 1

is born with it and it is some what different then what a T 2 has. the diets

though will work grate for both types and if the whole world would follow

and eat and exercise the same? well wouldn't be the need for so many

doctor's. we got some restaurants here in OkC that serve only healthy food

and they are never packed. those restaurants that are all you can eat and

there food is loaded with tasty carbs and fat are standing room only. I have

heard there is more people running around right now who are a T 2 and

haven't been told yet, then there is diabetics that they know about. they

also said heart disease is number one killer in America, but they believe

diabetes will in only ten years be number on instead. how many carbs do you

think the normal Joe Blow eats in one day? I heard it is around 300. this

sounds like a lot to us, but it is only 100 per meal and when you stop to

figure up what they are mostly eating in a meal, then it isn't so hard to

figure why. I was one of them for many years and probably would be still to

day if my heart didn't get sick because of high sugars. I'm telling you

right now I have learned real fast that you can do best eating right if you

don't go out to eat that much.

[Guest guest]

You are correct Mark. Ten calories per pound to maintain your weight is

correct. Most people eat more than that however, so gain weight. For every

350 extra calories you eat than you nee, you will gain one more of the

unwanted poundage!

_____

From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth

Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:22 PM

To: blind-diabetics

Subject: Re: Diet for diabetic, good for over all health

for all.

A nurse once told me that we need ten calories per pound to maintain our

weight. eat fewer and you lose, eat more and you gain. so weighing in last

month at 300 plus, this means if true I was eating 3000 calories a day to

maintain that weight. must be some truth in this she said, because I was

staying right around the 315 area for 7 years. now I'm eating around 1000

and no more then 1200 all the time for the past month. I'm losing for sure,

but no quickly. 3000 calories in one day maybe right, but if that fellow or

lady swings by the local fast food joint and grabs a large chocolate shake

on the way home? could be that daily calorie count just jumped to 4000. have

you ever noticed that not much difference in cost between large and extra

large? I think they do it on purpose. I know folks who will tell you if they

just order food from the dollar menu only, they are cutting there calories

this way. I guess they truly believe that dollar food has less calories

because they order more and think it isn't hurting them. I don't eat hardly

any fast food at all and never have. just don't really like fast food. do

dig ice cream in a con though. do get the small one these days and not the

large as I once did. have figured out that the small is ok and will take the

hunger away. most people never stop to think that all the little bites they

take all day long do add up to a total amount of calories. my goal is always

to remain under 120 2 hours after I ate. some I know try to just stay under

160 and they are happy. each to his own! I do think it is best to set a top

number that you wish to stay under and not go over if you plan to control

your A1C. of course staying under 120 every meal is a hard restricted diet

to stay on.

Diet for diabetic, good for over all health for

all.

seems to me that if every one would follow a diabetic diet, no one much

would have a weight issue or have bad health. of course there is cancer and

strokes and getting ran over by a car, but most would have good health over

all by following a diet that a diabetic eats with good sugar control. most T

2 diabetes is from over eating and having to many pounds hanging on. the T 1

is born with it and it is some what different then what a T 2 has. the diets

though will work grate for both types and if the whole world would follow

and eat and exercise the same? well wouldn't be the need for so many

doctor's. we got some restaurants here in OkC that serve only healthy food

and they are never packed. those restaurants that are all you can eat and

there food is loaded with tasty carbs and fat are standing room only. I have

heard there is more people running around right now who are a T 2 and

haven't been told yet, then there is diabetics that they know about. they

also said heart disease is number one killer in America, but they believe

diabetes will in only ten years be number on instead. how many carbs do you

think the normal Joe Blow eats in one day? I heard it is around 300. this

sounds like a lot to us, but it is only 100 per meal and when you stop to

figure up what they are mostly eating in a meal, then it isn't so hard to

figure why. I was one of them for many years and probably would be still to

day if my heart didn't get sick because of high sugars. I'm telling you

right now I have learned real fast that you can do best eating right if you

don't go out to eat that much.

[Guest guest]

We're confusing calories and carbs. Mark is talking about 300 grams of

carbohydrate, and Pat is talking about 3000 calories.

Dave

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Diet for diabetic, good for over all health for

all.

seems to me that if every one would follow a diabetic diet, no one much

would have a weight issue or have bad health. of course there is cancer and

strokes and getting ran over by a car, but most would have good health over

all by following a diet that a diabetic eats with good sugar control. most T

2 diabetes is from over eating and having to many pounds hanging on. the T 1

is born with it and it is some what different then what a T 2 has. the diets

though will work grate for both types and if the whole world would follow

and eat and exercise the same? well wouldn't be the need for so many

doctor's. we got some restaurants here in OkC that serve only healthy food

and they are never packed. those restaurants that are all you can eat and

there food is loaded with tasty carbs and fat are standing room only. I have

heard there is more people running around right now who are a T 2 and

haven't been told yet, then there is diabetics that they know about. they

also said heart disease is number one killer in America, but they believe

diabetes will in only ten years be number on instead. how many carbs do you

think the normal Joe Blow eats in one day? I heard it is around 300. this

sounds like a lot to us, but it is only 100 per meal and when you stop to

figure up what they are mostly eating in a meal, then it isn't so hard to

figure why. I was one of them for many years and probably would be still to

day if my heart didn't get sick because of high sugars. I'm telling you

right now I have learned real fast that you can do best eating right if you

don't go out to eat that much.