Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

[Guest guest]

Yippee! Jan, you've been great :-). Thanks so much!

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:57:21 -0400 " Jantranscribes "

writes:

I'm sorry.. I did misunderstand your question. I'll try again. Most

likely they have their own firewall on VPN, so to answer your question,

yes you'd be safe and protected because the hacker would have to go

through them to get to you.

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

Hi,

I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone alarm).

A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to be unable

to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I have my

firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall while

on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being paranoid? Would

you disable your firewall for the time you were working? Seems like

suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I decide what I'm going

to do. Thanks so much! :-).

Love,

[Guest guest]

I would not do it. You might try a different firewall. ZoneAlarm goes

about it in a little different way. Another firewall might be the solution.

Most firewalls have the ability to open certain ports for a specific

application and this may be what is prohibiting your connecting. Running

cable without a firewall is like asking for someone to invade your computer.

Quixote

N wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to

> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I

> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I

> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You don't get viruses from leaving your computer unprotected by a firewall.

Usually viruses are downloaded in another program or recieved in the mail.

Here is what happens to an unprotected computer on the internet. Hackers

run programs that will take a block of cable users IPs (physical internet

addresses) and scan them one at a time. If your computer is not in stealth

by a firewall then it will answer the program back and your ip is logged.

The hacker looks at his log file and sees your IP as an unprotected

computer. He can then look at the contents of your harddrive, i.e., any

files or personal information you have stored on it. He can plant a program

on your computer which will give him easier access to it in the future. He

can use your computer in conjuction with thousands of other already invaded

to perform DoS attacks (denial of service attacks) such has happened to

Yahoo and other big names. He can use your computer to hide his own tracks

and things he does on the net will look like they are coming from you. I am

sure there are things I have not heard about that go on also. Unfortunately

thousands of people willingly lend their computers to such actions because

they leave them unprotected.

Quixote

Eckenrode wrote:

> ,

>

> I was wondering, Won't a virus protecter work as well without leaving

> you defenseless? Just a thought.

>

>

> no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems

> to be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long

> as I have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before

> I decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unless I am mistaken on VPN they would become your access to the outside

world. So you will have whatever access they provide to you. If this is

not so then the security benefit of VPN on your computer is lost. I could be

wrong about this but I do know if you can still access the net from your

computer, and are not running a firewall, then your computer will still be

visible on the net for anyone looking.

Quixote

N wrote:

> Thanks, Jan! Can you tell me one other thing? Is it okay to make an

> Internet connection and be surfing the Internet while connected via

> VPN? I'm wondering if I can still do google searches safely, etc.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:08:36 -0400 " Jantranscribes "

> writes:

> ThVPN is what my employer uses also. VPN stands for, I believe,

> virtual personal network, which, in theory, indeed means you are safe

> as long as you are connected to them since they most likely have

> their own firewall. You're absolutely correct that you should run

> your firewall any time you are not connected to VPN.

>

> Jan

> jantranscribes@...

> " Typing is my life. "

> " Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to

> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I

> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I

> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Quixote,

The VPD dialer says it has its own firewall. Do think that's decent? If

not, can you make suggestions for other firewalls besides zonealarm?

There are so many out there! Thanks so much!

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:57:13 -0500 " Quixote "

writes:

> I would not do it. You might try a different firewall. ZoneAlarm

> goes

> about it in a little different way. Another firewall might be the

> solution.

> Most firewalls have the ability to open certain ports for a

> specific

> application and this may be what is prohibiting your connecting.

> Running

> cable without a firewall is like asking for someone to invade your

> computer.

>

> Quixote

>

> N wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> > alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems

> to

> > be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as

> I

> > have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

> >

> > The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their

> firewall

> > while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> > paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> > working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions

> before I

> > decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I will have to admit that I have not dealt with VPN yet and am not sure of

the actual setup involved. My best guess at this point is that once you

activate the VPN client (your computer) then your computer would become

connected by a private link to the host (the company you work for). That

would become your connection to the outside world and no one else should be

able to see it. I will read up on it so I can give you more than just a

best guess.

Quixote

N wrote:

> Quixote,

>

> The VPD dialer says it has its own firewall. Do think that's decent?

> If not, can you make suggestions for other firewalls besides

> zonealarm? There are so many out there! Thanks so much!

>

>

>

> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:57:13 -0500 " Quixote "

> writes:

>> I would not do it. You might try a different firewall. ZoneAlarm

>> goes

>> about it in a little different way. Another firewall might be the

>> solution.

>> Most firewalls have the ability to open certain ports for a

>> specific

>> application and this may be what is prohibiting your connecting.

>> Running

>> cable without a firewall is like asking for someone to invade your

>> computer.

>>

>> Quixote

>>

>> N wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

>>> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems

>> to

>>> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as

>> I

>>> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>>>

>>> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their

>> firewall

>>> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

>>> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

>>> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions

>> before I

>>> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>>>

>>> Love,

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

I don't claim to understand all the workings, that's for sure. Plus, bear in

mind that my personal computer and my work computer are networked with a router,

so when I use my cable on my work computer to log into their VPN, I then have

access not only to work, but also their email system, and web access to do

searches on Google, etc. The work computer is running Win NT and because it was

provided by my employer, we are not permitted to add any software to it which

includes a software firewall. The way it was explained to me, THEY provide

whatever software I need, so I'm assuming they have some sort of firewall

protection besides my router.

When this thread started I said I wouldn't feel comfortable disabling my

firewall on my personal computer in order to log into VPN via my cable modem,

and I still feel that way. However, since I found out she'd be logging into

their VPN, as I stated earlier, I assume her employer has some sort of

protection for her while she's on her VPN, although that may not be the case..

She'd have to ask.

As an aside to you Quixote, when the Geek on Call came to network my home and

work computers so that both could use my cable access, my home computer (Win98)

is the master, and the work computer is the slave (Win NT) through the router.

Since I cannot access the home computer's files from the work computer and vice

versa, doesn't that mean no one else could either?

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to

> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I

> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I

> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is all so interesting to me :-). I think the thing that makes me

nervous is that I can open up Internet Explorer from my desktop, so I

have no way of knowing if it's going through the VPN connection with it's

firewall, or if it's just going through my regular cable connection. It's

not like once I've gotten in through VPN that there's somewhere within

that software that has an IE icon :-). Basically, I wish I could tell if

my IE Connection is through VPN or is bypassing it. Then I'd know whether

it was protected by their firewall or not. So much to learn, so little

time!

On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:34:30 -0400 " Jantranscribes "

writes:

I don't claim to understand all the workings, that's for sure. Plus,

bear in mind that my personal computer and my work computer are networked

with a router, so when I use my cable on my work computer to log into

their VPN, I then have access not only to work, but also their email

system, and web access to do searches on Google, etc. The work computer

is running Win NT and because it was provided by my employer, we are not

permitted to add any software to it which includes a software firewall.

The way it was explained to me, THEY provide whatever software I need, so

I'm assuming they have some sort of firewall protection besides my

router.

When this thread started I said I wouldn't feel comfortable disabling my

firewall on my personal computer in order to log into VPN via my cable

modem, and I still feel that way. However, since I found out she'd be

logging into their VPN, as I stated earlier, I assume her employer has

some sort of protection for her while she's on her VPN, although that may

not be the case.. She'd have to ask.

As an aside to you Quixote, when the Geek on Call came to network my home

and work computers so that both could use my cable access, my home

computer (Win98) is the master, and the work computer is the slave (Win

NT) through the router. Since I cannot access the home computer's files

from the work computer and vice versa, doesn't that mean no one else

could either?

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to

> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I

> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I

> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I remember reading a VERY interesting article that Jan posted once about

this very thing. It went into detail about how people's PCs were used in " cyber

warfare. " It is all very military sounding, even if only cyber! Jan, do you

'member that? FASCINATING stuff and stuff one hopes to not be an unknowing

participant in.

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

You don't get viruses from leaving your computer unprotected by a firewall.

Usually viruses are downloaded in another program or recieved in the mail.

Here is what happens to an unprotected computer on the internet. Hackers

run programs that will take a block of cable users IPs (physical internet

addresses) and scan them one at a time. If your computer is not in stealth

by a firewall then it will answer the program back and your ip is logged.

The hacker looks at his log file and sees your IP as an unprotected

computer. He can then look at the contents of your harddrive, i.e., any

files or personal information you have stored on it. He can plant a program

on your computer which will give him easier access to it in the future. He

can use your computer in conjuction with thousands of other already invaded

to perform DoS attacks (denial of service attacks) such has happened to

Yahoo and other big names. He can use your computer to hide his own tracks

and things he does on the net will look like they are coming from you. I am

sure there are things I have not heard about that go on also. Unfortunately

thousands of people willingly lend their computers to such actions because

they leave them unprotected.

Quixote

[Guest guest]

I sure do, and it was very scary. If I remember correctly, that all stemmed

from a discussion about software firewalls. At the time I think we were

discussing Black Ice, which turned out to be worthless because it notifies you

that something is happening, but it doesn't block anything, whereas Zonealarm

notifies AND blocks. Excellent memory Rennie

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

You don't get viruses from leaving your computer unprotected by a firewall.

Usually viruses are downloaded in another program or recieved in the mail.

Here is what happens to an unprotected computer on the internet. Hackers

run programs that will take a block of cable users IPs (physical internet

addresses) and scan them one at a time. If your computer is not in stealth

by a firewall then it will answer the program back and your ip is logged.

The hacker looks at his log file and sees your IP as an unprotected

computer. He can then look at the contents of your harddrive, i.e., any

files or personal information you have stored on it. He can plant a program

on your computer which will give him easier access to it in the future. He

can use your computer in conjuction with thousands of other already invaded

to perform DoS attacks (denial of service attacks) such has happened to

Yahoo and other big names. He can use your computer to hide his own tracks

and things he does on the net will look like they are coming from you. I am

sure there are things I have not heard about that go on also. Unfortunately

thousands of people willingly lend their computers to such actions because

they leave them unprotected.

Quixote

[Guest guest]

I certainly understand your concern, and I just don't know the answer for sure.

Maybe Quixote can figure it out.

Most of the time I access Google, etc., from my home computer. I very seldom

access the web from my work computer .. for example if one of my fellow MTs

sends a web link about a new instrument or word or whatever, or if my boss sends

a link in email to check out.

Originally when I started working for my employer, I was on dial up with no web

access, so it just got to be a habit looking things up from my home computer,

which sits right next to my work computer, so it's very convenient. I just

never really got out of the habit of doing it that way except in the situations

I mentioned above. Now it turns out it's probably a good thing I do it that way

since I run Zonealarm on my home computer and in light of this entire

discussion.

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for seems to

> be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system as long as I

> have my firewall up and running. We've tried everything :-).

>

> The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their firewall

> while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I being

> paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you were

> working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions before I

> decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

>

> Love,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jantranscribes wrote:

> I don't claim to understand all the workings, that's for sure. Plus,

> bear in mind that my personal computer and my work computer are

> networked with a router, so when I use my cable on my work computer

> to log into their VPN, I then have access not only to work, but also

> their email system, and web access to do searches on Google, etc.

This is what I suspected. Their network becomes your access to the

internet, etc., and so they provide the front end protection, if any is

provided.

> As an aside to you Quixote, when the Geek on Call came to network my

> home and work computers so that both could use my cable access, my

> home computer (Win98) is the master, and the work computer is the

> slave (Win NT) through the router. Since I cannot access the home

> computer's files from the work computer and vice versa, doesn't that

> mean no one else could either?

Correct.

> Jan

> jantranscribes@...

> " Typing is my life. "

> " Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a cable connection to my PC. I also have a firewall (zone

> > alarm). A national company that I'm trying to go to work for

> seems to > be unable to get me connected to the hospital's system

> as long as I > have my firewall up and running. We've tried

> everything :-). >

> > The other MTs on this account have agreed to not use their

> firewall > while on this account. I think that is crazy :-). Am I

> being > paranoid? Would you disable your firewall for the time you

> were > working? Seems like suicide to me! I'd like to hear opinions

> before I > decide what I'm going to do. Thanks so much! :-).

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually Black Ice does a very good job of blocking the intruders if set up

properly. I use Black Ice. It will log every attempt, tell you what the

attempt was, who it came from, and what if any danger to your computer is

present. The thing that Black Ice will not do is block outgoing

connections, which is what Zone Alarm does. I actually run both Zone Alarm

and Black Ice because together they cover both areas. I have a computer

that does nothing but connect to the cable modem, run the firewalls, and act

as server to the rest of my computers. If you want to check how invisible

or visible your computer is then go here and run through this little test.

This is a very respected site.

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Quixote

Jantranscribes wrote:

> I sure do, and it was very scary. If I remember correctly, that all

> stemmed from a discussion about software firewalls. At the time I

> think we were discussing Black Ice, which turned out to be worthless

> because it notifies you that something is happening, but it doesn't

> block anything, whereas Zonealarm notifies AND blocks. Excellent

> memory Rennie

>

> Jan

> jantranscribes@...

> " Typing is my life. "

> " Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you

> do it?

>

>

> You don't get viruses from leaving your computer unprotected by a

> firewall. Usually viruses are downloaded in another program or

> recieved in the mail. Here is what happens to an unprotected

> computer on the internet. Hackers run programs that will take a

> block of cable users IPs (physical internet addresses) and scan

> them one at a time. If your computer is not in stealth by a

> firewall then it will answer the program back and your ip is

> logged. The hacker looks at his log file and sees your IP as an

> unprotected computer. He can then look at the contents of your

> harddrive, i.e., any files or personal information you have

> stored on it. He can plant a program on your computer which will

> give him easier access to it in the future. He can use your

> computer in conjuction with thousands of other already invaded to

> perform DoS attacks (denial of service attacks) such has happened

> to Yahoo and other big names. He can use your computer to hide

> his own tracks and things he does on the net will look like they

> are coming from you. I am sure there are things I have not heard

> about that go on also. Unfortunately thousands of people willingly

> lend their computers to such actions because they leave them

> unprotected.

>

> Quixote

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cool site! I'm stealthy, I'm stealthy!!

lol

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

Actually Black Ice does a very good job of blocking the intruders if set up

properly. I use Black Ice. It will log every attempt, tell you what the

attempt was, who it came from, and what if any danger to your computer is

present. The thing that Black Ice will not do is block outgoing

connections, which is what Zone Alarm does. I actually run both Zone Alarm

and Black Ice because together they cover both areas. I have a computer

that does nothing but connect to the cable modem, run the firewalls, and act

as server to the rest of my computers. If you want to check how invisible

or visible your computer is then go here and run through this little test.

This is a very respected site.

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Quixote

[Guest guest]

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

If you want to check how invisible or visible your computer is then go here

and run through this little test.

This is a very respected site.

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Quixote

Wow! Thx for sharing this site. While I have a cable connection with a

router, my husband and I set up ourselves and I was worried that we may have

missed something (us not being even close to computer guru level). I was

greatful to know that I'm fully secure. I've learned some amazing things while

reading the thread re firewalls. Thx for sharing your expertise.

Dawn C.

M-TEC Student

IC, Ortho - 1 year

AIM: fasthands47

[Guest guest]

You guys amaze me!! Me and my one lil computer doing

transcription....router?? hub??? I know nothing of these type of

connections....but then I didnt know any thing about computers and the

internet until five years ago..lol...Nel

[Guest guest]

yay...after installing zone alarm and running the probe, it say I am

invisible....thanks Quioxte.

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

If you want to check how invisible or visible your computer is then go here

and run through this little test.

This is a very respected site.

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Quixote

Wow! Thx for sharing this site. While I have a cable connection with a

router, my husband and I set up ourselves and I was worried that we may have

missed something (us not being even close to computer guru level). I was

greatful to know that I'm fully secure. I've learned some amazing things while

reading the thread re firewalls. Thx for sharing your expertise.

Dawn C.

M-TEC Student

IC, Ortho - 1 year

AIM: fasthands47

[Guest guest]

I just finished testing my computer with the link provided and I'm stealthy too.

Thanks Zonealarm and thanks Quixote for the link

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

If you want to check how invisible or visible your computer is then go

here and run through this little test.

This is a very respected site.

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Quixote

Wow! Thx for sharing this site. While I have a cable connection with a

router, my husband and I set up ourselves and I was worried that we may have

missed something (us not being even close to computer guru level). I was

greatful to know that I'm fully secure. I've learned some amazing things while

reading the thread re firewalls. Thx for sharing your expertise.

Dawn C.

M-TEC Student

IC, Ortho - 1 year

AIM: fasthands47

[Guest guest]

Just tested mine and it said that my machine basically doesn't exist to the

outside world. WOOHOO! :-)

We have our machines (2 PCs and 1 laptop) networked, cable modem, Linksys

router and Linksys hub. We have a " built-in " firewall in the router, which

makes it so much more convenient than having to set one up ourselves and

possibly miss something, we're not THAT savvy....yet!

Hubby also has one PC in Wisconsin and he said when he gets back tomorrow

night, he's going to run his machine through this test and see what it comes

up with. He doesn't have a firewall on that machine, so it will be

interesting to see what comes up.

I've had my 'puter hacked into before a few years ago. Whoever did it got a

hold of my email addy and password and set up their own email addy through

it. I was very frustrated because, for three months, I was constantly

getting bumped off my machine (it was dial-up back then, no firewall) or

could never get logged on. We figured out the problem, switched to DSL,

networked with firewall, and I never had a problem after that. When we were

forced to switch to cable (DSL not available when we moved), I made DARN

sure they offered as secure a system as possible! I also don't store any

patient reports at all on my machine, I have everything on Zip for extra,

extra peace of mind and security.

Thanks for the link, Quixote. Very interesting!

Diane

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

[Guest guest]

I also have 3 computers networked at home. We use a Linksys wireless combination

router/hub and after checking all 3 machines we are " invisible " too.

Peace of mind is a good thing!!

Meg Parish

MT Student

Re: no firewall on cable connection - would you do it?

Just tested mine and it said that my machine basically doesn't exist to the

outside world. WOOHOO! :-)

We have our machines (2 PCs and 1 laptop) networked, cable modem, Linksys

router and Linksys hub. We have a " built-in " firewall in the router, which

makes it so much more convenient than having to set one up ourselves and

possibly miss something, we're not THAT savvy....yet!

Hubby also has one PC in Wisconsin and he said when he gets back tomorrow

night, he's going to run his machine through this test and see what it comes

up with. He doesn't have a firewall on that machine, so it will be

interesting to see what comes up.

I've had my 'puter hacked into before a few years ago. Whoever did it got a

hold of my email addy and password and set up their own email addy through

it. I was very frustrated because, for three months, I was constantly

getting bumped off my machine (it was dial-up back then, no firewall) or

could never get logged on. We figured out the problem, switched to DSL,

networked with firewall, and I never had a problem after that. When we were

forced to switch to cable (DSL not available when we moved), I made DARN

sure they offered as secure a system as possible! I also don't store any

patient reports at all on my machine, I have everything on Zip for extra,

extra peace of mind and security.

Thanks for the link, Quixote. Very interesting!

Diane

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