Think it is possible??? (very long)

January 12, 2008

That the following things in my life may have led to the fibro???

1. 1988 - fall down a flight of stairs bouncing on my tail bone on

each step.

1. 1989 - pregnant with 2nd son

2. 1989 - caught husband with another woman - seperation Labor Day

weekend.

3. 1989 - moved home after separation - daily fights with soon to be

ex over custody of oldest son and at that time 2nd child (was 7

months pregnant when separation happened and did not know sex of

child)

4. 1989 - father has heart attack and goes into hospital - stays 6

weeks ICU - dies 3 weeks after birth of my second son - during this

time period I am the " stong one " trying to hold everything together

for my mom and 15 yr old brother. 2 sisters unable to help. Major

stress most of the entire year - but especially from Sept through

end of year.

5. 1990 - Easter - my mom's mom (my grandmother) dies from cancer.

6. Put my mother on a suicide watch as she just loses it (lost

husband and mother within 4 months of each other)

7. Sept of 1990 move to Houston to start over.

8. March/April 1991 had nervous breakdown - started on

antidepressants

9. Job is very stressful - working for a boss who treats us like

children. cannot find another one at the time.

10. move back to my moms in may or june 1992 after car breaking down

(throwing rod through engine).

11. In July 1992 drunk driver hits me and my children and two

friends head on. Out of work for about 6 months, move from my moms

due to cannot stand the influence her new husband has on her and

move to my ex-mother in laws for a better envionronment for my

children.

12. jobs are on and off for a while - do temp work to take care of

my children. date - end up living with someone several years

younger - not a good match - break up and send my children to live

with their father while I go back to Houston looking for work. This

lasts for 2 or 3 months. Move back to Dallas area and move in with

my boys and my ex as a roommate.

13. 1994-1995 Get work in , meet my 2nd husband - move in

with him and his son and get married within 4 months of meeting him.

14. move out to land I get from my grandfather.

15. Have a partial hyst in June 1996.

16. Lots of problems with the blended family. Husband and his son

move to Washington state in Oct 1997.

17. We reconcile and my boys and I move across country to Washington

state in Feb 1998. Things ok for a little while - have lots of

problems with my oldest - send him back to Texas to live with his

father.

18. Marriage completely breaks down and my youngest son and I move

back to Texas Nov 1999.

19. Have emergency gallbladder surgery Feb 2000. Lost job due to

surgery. Meet my 3rd husband in March 2000.

20. Again, moved way too fast and moved in with him in June 2000.

Lived together and had lots of problems with my oldest son (my 3rd

husband never had kids of his own)(my oldest got caught breaking and

entering at the age of 17 and was sentented to prison)). Ended up

getting married in May 2002. Continued to have problems - to the

point where we separated in Oct 2006.

21. Lose my job due to layoff in June 2005 - pull unemployment till

Dec 2005 when I get the job I now have. Also decided to start

college so that I can get a better job/life. Still working on

completing my degree.

22. 5 days after my birthday in Nov 2006 my husband decided he did

not even want to try to make our marriage work so he moved back to

his hometown - 400 miles away.

So now I live with my youngest son (18 yr old) and my 3 cats and

work full time/go to school 3/4 to full time.

As you can see there has been quite a bit happen in my life

(althouth probably no more than anyone else here and most likely

less than others).

My question is do you think that these things could have contributed

to my Fibro - as the pain has gotten worse as the years have gone

by and especially the last 4 have been pretty bad.

Until I found the tumor on my spine and was put on pain meds for

that (that help with the fibro) I would take upto 6000 mg of extra

strenght tylenol and 2400 mg of advil every day to try to take the

edge off the pain. I know that I have not done my body any good

doing that, but that is what it took to be able to function and not

just curl up in bed and give into the pain.

Any comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I know that this

is very long and if you get through it all - wow...your great and

thanks.

Christi in Texas

January 12, 2008

Dear Christi,

I'm no authority, but I think all of it probably contributed to your Fibro.

If you said when you were dx, I missed it. so could you tell me again.

You have had a really hard time. I hope things are going better for you now.

What are the doctors doing about the tumor on your back? What kind is it?

I'm glad you have some pain meds now. I hope they help.

Yes, I read it all. I've been known to write diatribes, so I guess if someone

reads mine, I should read theirs.

Take Care,

Marti

Christi Randall wrote:

That the following things in my life may have led to the fibro???

1. 1988 - fall down a flight of stairs bouncing on my tail bone on

each step.

1. 1989 - pregnant with 2nd son

2. 1989 - caught husband with another woman - seperation Labor Day

weekend.

3. 1989 - moved home after separation - daily fights with soon to be

ex over custody of oldest son and at that time 2nd child (was 7

months pregnant when separation happened and did not know sex of

child)

4. 1989 - father has heart attack and goes into hospital - stays 6

weeks ICU - dies 3 weeks after birth of my second son - during this

time period I am the " stong one " trying to hold everything together

for my mom and 15 yr old brother. 2 sisters unable to help. Major

stress most of the entire year - but especially from Sept through

end of year.

5. 1990 - Easter - my mom's mom (my grandmother) dies from cancer.

6. Put my mother on a suicide watch as she just loses it (lost

husband and mother within 4 months of each other)

7. Sept of 1990 move to Houston to start over.

8. March/April 1991 had nervous breakdown - started on

antidepressants

9. Job is very stressful - working for a boss who treats us like

children. cannot find another one at the time.

10. move back to my moms in may or june 1992 after car breaking down

(throwing rod through engine).

11. In July 1992 drunk driver hits me and my children and two

friends head on. Out of work for about 6 months, move from my moms

due to cannot stand the influence her new husband has on her and

move to my ex-mother in laws for a better envionronment for my

children.

12. jobs are on and off for a while - do temp work to take care of

my children. date - end up living with someone several years

younger - not a good match - break up and send my children to live

with their father while I go back to Houston looking for work. This

lasts for 2 or 3 months. Move back to Dallas area and move in with

my boys and my ex as a roommate.

13. 1994-1995 Get work in , meet my 2nd husband - move in

with him and his son and get married within 4 months of meeting him.

14. move out to land I get from my grandfather.

15. Have a partial hyst in June 1996.

16. Lots of problems with the blended family. Husband and his son

move to Washington state in Oct 1997.

17. We reconcile and my boys and I move across country to Washington

state in Feb 1998. Things ok for a little while - have lots of

problems with my oldest - send him back to Texas to live with his

father.

18. Marriage completely breaks down and my youngest son and I move

back to Texas Nov 1999.

19. Have emergency gallbladder surgery Feb 2000. Lost job due to

surgery. Meet my 3rd husband in March 2000.

20. Again, moved way too fast and moved in with him in June 2000.

Lived together and had lots of problems with my oldest son (my 3rd

husband never had kids of his own)(my oldest got caught breaking and

entering at the age of 17 and was sentented to prison)). Ended up

getting married in May 2002. Continued to have problems - to the

point where we separated in Oct 2006.

21. Lose my job due to layoff in June 2005 - pull unemployment till

Dec 2005 when I get the job I now have. Also decided to start

college so that I can get a better job/life. Still working on

completing my degree.

22. 5 days after my birthday in Nov 2006 my husband decided he did

not even want to try to make our marriage work so he moved back to

his hometown - 400 miles away.

So now I live with my youngest son (18 yr old) and my 3 cats and

work full time/go to school 3/4 to full time.

As you can see there has been quite a bit happen in my life

(althouth probably no more than anyone else here and most likely

less than others).

My question is do you think that these things could have contributed

to my Fibro - as the pain has gotten worse as the years have gone

by and especially the last 4 have been pretty bad.

Until I found the tumor on my spine and was put on pain meds for

that (that help with the fibro) I would take upto 6000 mg of extra

strenght tylenol and 2400 mg of advil every day to try to take the

edge off the pain. I know that I have not done my body any good

doing that, but that is what it took to be able to function and not

just curl up in bed and give into the pain.

Any comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I know that this

is very long and if you get through it all - wow...your great and

thanks.

Christi in Texas

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January 12, 2008

Thanks Marti. I got my dx just this last Monday. For now I am using Ultram 50

2 x day and Flexiril at night to help me sleep. this seems to be working for

now. The tumor is on my spine and has to be removed. I am going to see a

neurologist on Monday to get him a consult with the microsugeon that i want to

do the surgery. So home to have the surgery done within the next month. I have

actually never put all that into writing before. I have thought about it - but

never in writing. I actually left several things out - just tried to hit the

highlights...LOL - think there were enough as it was.

Things are getting better. I am happier than I have been in a long time.

Christi Randall

www.singingwomenoftexas.com

Re: Think it is possible??? (very long)

Dear Christi,

I'm no authority, but I think all of it probably contributed to your Fibro.

If you said when you were dx, I missed it. so could you tell me again.

You have had a really hard time. I hope things are going better for you now.

What are the doctors doing about the tumor on your back? What kind is it?

I'm glad you have some pain meds now. I hope they help.

Yes, I read it all. I've been known to write diatribes, so I guess if someone

reads mine, I should read theirs.

Take Care,

Marti

---------------------------------

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January 12, 2008

Hi Christi,

Seems more like low lights than high lights. LOL

Keep me posted on how the surgery comes out and when it's scheduled. I'm glad

you know someone good to do the surgery.

I'm really glad that you are happier now.

Take Care,

Marti

Christi Randall wrote:

Thanks Marti. I got my dx just this last Monday. For now I am using

Ultram 50 2 x day and Flexiril at night to help me sleep. this seems to be

working for now. The tumor is on my spine and has to be removed. I am going to

see a neurologist on Monday to get him a consult with the microsugeon that i

want to do the surgery. So home to have the surgery done within the next month.

I have actually never put all that into writing before. I have thought about it

- but never in writing. I actually left several things out - just tried to hit

the highlights...LOL - think there were enough as it was.

Things are getting better. I am happier than I have been in a long time.

Christi Randall

www.singingwomenoftexas.com

Re: Think it is possible??? (very long)

Dear Christi,

I'm no authority, but I think all of it probably contributed to your Fibro. If

you said when you were dx, I missed it. so could you tell me again.

You have had a really hard time. I hope things are going better for you now.

What are the doctors doing about the tumor on your back? What kind is it?

I'm glad you have some pain meds now. I hope they help.

Yes, I read it all. I've been known to write diatribes, so I guess if someone

reads mine, I should read theirs.

Take Care,

Marti

---------------------------------

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

January 12, 2008

Oh yes low lights it would be. But I do feel that there is nothing that the

Good Lord will allow me to have/do/deal with that I cannot handle. But I am

getting tired of it. He can stop anytime now...LOL

Thanks. I will keep you posted on the surgery. Thanks

Christi Randall

www.singingwomenoftexas.com

Re: Think it is possible??? (very long)

Hi Christi,

Seems more like low lights than high lights. LOL

Keep me posted on how the surgery comes out and when it's scheduled. I'm

glad you know someone good to do the surgery.

I'm really glad that you are happier now.

Take Care,

Marti

January 12, 2008

I'm no expert, but I read that our fibro is always 'there' but a trauma

kind of 'triggers' it or wakes it up. I was abused by my first husband

but didn't start experiencing any pains until an auto accident in 1995.

This was over two years after leaving first husband, so who knows.

But there were little things I always had, which leads me to believe it

was always 'there.'

Christi Randall wrote:

> That the following things in my life may have led to the fibro???

>

> 1. 1988 - fall down a flight of stairs bouncing on my tail bone on

> each step.

> 1. 1989 - pregnant with 2nd son

> 2. 1989 - caught husband with another woman - seperation Labor Day

> weekend.

> 3. 1989 - moved home after separation - daily fights with soon to be

> ex over custody of oldest son and at that time 2nd child (was 7

> months pregnant when separation happened and did not know sex of

> child)

> 4. 1989 - father has heart attack and goes into hospital - stays 6

> weeks ICU - dies 3 weeks after birth of my second son - during this

> time period I am the " stong one " trying to hold everything together

> for my mom and 15 yr old brother. 2 sisters unable to help. Major

> stress most of the entire year - but especially from Sept through

> end of year.

> 5. 1990 - Easter - my mom's mom (my grandmother) dies from cancer.

> 6. Put my mother on a suicide watch as she just loses it (lost

> husband and mother within 4 months of each other)

> 7. Sept of 1990 move to Houston to start over.

> 8. March/April 1991 had nervous breakdown - started on

> antidepressants

> 9. Job is very stressful - working for a boss who treats us like

> children. cannot find another one at the time.

> 10. move back to my moms in may or june 1992 after car breaking down

> (throwing rod through engine).

> 11. In July 1992 drunk driver hits me and my children and two

> friends head on. Out of work for about 6 months, move from my moms

> due to cannot stand the influence her new husband has on her and

> move to my ex-mother in laws for a better envionronment for my

> children.

> 12. jobs are on and off for a while - do temp work to take care of

> my children. date - end up living with someone several years

> younger - not a good match - break up and send my children to live

> with their father while I go back to Houston looking for work. This

> lasts for 2 or 3 months. Move back to Dallas area and move in with

> my boys and my ex as a roommate.

> 13. 1994-1995 Get work in , meet my 2nd husband - move in

> with him and his son and get married within 4 months of meeting him.

> 14. move out to land I get from my grandfather.

> 15. Have a partial hyst in June 1996.

> 16. Lots of problems with the blended family. Husband and his son

> move to Washington state in Oct 1997.

> 17. We reconcile and my boys and I move across country to Washington

> state in Feb 1998. Things ok for a little while - have lots of

> problems with my oldest - send him back to Texas to live with his

> father.

> 18. Marriage completely breaks down and my youngest son and I move

> back to Texas Nov 1999.

> 19. Have emergency gallbladder surgery Feb 2000. Lost job due to

> surgery. Meet my 3rd husband in March 2000.

> 20. Again, moved way too fast and moved in with him in June 2000.

> Lived together and had lots of problems with my oldest son (my 3rd

> husband never had kids of his own)(my oldest got caught breaking and

> entering at the age of 17 and was sentented to prison)). Ended up

> getting married in May 2002. Continued to have problems - to the

> point where we separated in Oct 2006.

> 21. Lose my job due to layoff in June 2005 - pull unemployment till

> Dec 2005 when I get the job I now have. Also decided to start

> college so that I can get a better job/life. Still working on

> completing my degree.

> 22. 5 days after my birthday in Nov 2006 my husband decided he did

> not even want to try to make our marriage work so he moved back to

> his hometown - 400 miles away.

>

> So now I live with my youngest son (18 yr old) and my 3 cats and

> work full time/go to school 3/4 to full time.

>

> As you can see there has been quite a bit happen in my life

> (althouth probably no more than anyone else here and most likely

> less than others).

>

> My question is do you think that these things could have contributed

> to my Fibro - as the pain has gotten worse as the years have gone

> by and especially the last 4 have been pretty bad.

>

> Until I found the tumor on my spine and was put on pain meds for

> that (that help with the fibro) I would take upto 6000 mg of extra

> strenght tylenol and 2400 mg of advil every day to try to take the

> edge off the pain. I know that I have not done my body any good

> doing that, but that is what it took to be able to function and not

> just curl up in bed and give into the pain.

>

> Any comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I know that this

> is very long and if you get through it all - wow...your great and

> thanks.

>

> Christi in Texas

>

> 1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences with everyone on the list as

to what treatments do and don't work for us, pls always check with your dr.

Some treatments are dangerous when given along with other meds as well as to

certain health conditions or just dangerous in general.

>

> 2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't matter what it is) pls don't

be afraid to ask for help. It is the first step to trying to make that

situation better.

>

> 3. To unsubscribe the e-mail is:

Fibromyalgia_Support_Group-unsubscribe

>

> 4. Also, it is not uncommon for more than one member to be feeling bad at the

same time when it comes to flares and b/c of that potentially take something

another member says the wrong way. And that includes the things that one member

may find funny (even if it's laughing at fibro itself) even though we who deal

with illness whether one such as fibro or multiple illnesses try to keep a sense

of humor.

>

> 5. Pls let's be gentle with each other, and if you are having a bad day pls

let us know so that we can do our best to offer our support.

>

> Have a nice day everyone.

>

January 13, 2008

I don't know if something 'causes' this thing. I do know it runs in

families. My Mom, sister, and I all have it. I do know of another

relative - Mom's first cousin, has it.

Mom never had any really bad traumas, I've had a few, sister's had a

ton. Mom's fibro is mild and minimal. Sister and I seem to suffer a

lot more, and we've both had traumas that could have 'triggered' the

fibro. But we've both had other symptoms that were just always there.

I believe it's always been there, it just doesn't usually present itself

in full form until a trauma wakes it up, so to speak.

But I'm no expert by any means.

KMRC6666@... wrote:

> I just have to say this, even though, I am sure it might cause an uproar

> amongst some in the group. I have never been convinced that certain life

events,

> except maybe physical trauma caused by injury or illness, could contribute to

> this disease. Many people think back and try to link their symptoms to bad

> life experiences. What about the people, who had everything as children,

their

> parents stayed married and are still married, maybe even still alive, went

> to good schools, married, never divorced, etc, etc... What do those people

> blame for causing their fibro? I have had negative experiences with doctors

> accepting this disease as a " real " illness. The first and only rheumatologist

> that I saw, told me that sexually abused people have fibro, and if you were

> sexually abused, you will be diagnosed with fibro more than if you did not

> experience sexual abuse. I told him that I thought that was a crock of Sh*t!

I

> think anyone can get this, children, adults, men, women, all races...my 78

> year old adoptive father was diagnosed a couple of months ago, his doctor did

> lab work to confirm it, I was diagnosed in July, w/o lab tests??? I am 41

and

> female. I have been diagnosed with different problems in the last 4 years,

> but it seemed like the doctors that I saw were afraid to make fibro as their

> diagnosis, almost like they were " too good " to say that I could have this.

This

> disease is a joke to them. Why is there a different criteria for diagnosing

> different people? I think the nonsense surrounding this condition, is the

> problem with getting the proper diagnosis and the proper treatment.

>

> Kris

>

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>

January 13, 2008

I do not know what lab tests my father had, but I will try to ask him again.

He is deaf so we can't communicate the phone, so we only try to talk in

person and we live far apart. He is coming to visit in 2 weeks, I hope to ask

him

more about it then. He used to do email, but my nephew is living with him

and takes the computer all the time.

I do know that his B12 has been low for years, and he gets injections for

that and feels much better afterwards.

Kris

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January 13, 2008

you know Melody that makes sense. I did not have any problems to any great

extent until after the auto accident in 92. That is when my pains really

started. Guess this will be one of those things we will never know for sure

about.

Christi in Texas

To: Fibromyalgia_Support_Group

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:49:43 PM

Subject: Re: Think it is possible??? (very long)

I'm no expert, but I read that our fibro is always 'there' but a trauma

kind of 'triggers' it or wakes it up. I was abused by my first husband

but didn't start experiencing any pains until an auto accident in 1995.

This was over two years after leaving first husband, so who knows.

But there were little things I always had, which leads me to believe it

was always 'there.'

January 13, 2008

I am not going to say it could be caused by either emotional issues or

injuries, other health problems definitely, but I do think some of my

pains were the result of very deeply buried memories that were from my

very early child hood. And I only say that because, the pain started

in the area of my sterum, spread across my left breast, around my body

in a circle and down both arms. The first year that occurred, it was

in April and I would wake up in the morning sleeping on my stomach

with both hands clinched in fists, pressing on that area. And it is

strange, because when I talk about pain to many people, especially

when I am describing what has now been diagnosed as fibro, my right

hand goes straigth to my heart. The memory that was buried was that 3

weeks before my second birthday, I stood at the front door of my home,

with my mother and watched as my older brother got off the bus and as

he attempted to cross the highway, he was struck and killed very

violently by a drunk driver.

I had flash backs that I now know were of that awful event, but it has

only been in the past 20 years that I have pulled the information out

of various people. My mother never spoke to me directly about it

until I realized how close his death was to my 2nd birthday. But she

was pretty angry that I asked about it, so I never asked her any more

questions. Later, after she was in a nursing home, I found trial

transcribes that were more graphic. And I have now asked my surviving

aunts and people in my small home town what they know and remember

about it.

One thing that I found out in November was that my grandmother came

and stayed with us following my brother's death -- I have a sister who

was about 6 months old when the death occurred. What I did not know

was that my mother went to bed and stayed there for quite sometime

following my brother's death. So, in someways, thinking about it now,

I didn't just loose my adored big brother, but also my mother and I

think my father also as he started working at a job that would keep

him away from home for a week or more at a time.

So, traumas such as that, which was buried and stayed buried for years

the physical pain could well have been one way my body and subconcious

mind expressed that deep rooted pain. And I will also add that the

year prior to that first horrible physical pain, I had two

miscarriages early in the year and NEVER allowed myself to become

pregnant again. Loss was more than my psychic could take. So, my

body expressed it.

And to close those thoughts, it's possible, that if I had such buried

memories that no one who even talk about, how many others may have had

pains that were not explained to them?

>

> Kris you could be right. It may be more related to physical more

than emotional.

January 13, 2008

After posting the message which I just did, I suddenly realized

perhaps I should find a support group for depression, but I have a

psychologist that I see on a biweekly basis who is very good and a

psychiatrist that I see for med checks and scripts -- I am glad we are

moving in June as I may never have to see her again! She is someone I

have come to realize that I cannot connect with the way I have with

previous pyschiatrists and I am glad that my first pyschiatrist will

be 2 hours away and is still taking patients. Him, I can relate to,

partly because we grew up not far from each other, so he really did

help me years ago.

>

> I am not going to say it could be caused by either emotional issues

or

> injuries, other health problems definitely, > > Kris you could be

right. It may be more related to physical more

> than emotional.

>

January 14, 2008

Oh, , there is nothing like a therapist that you can't connect with.

I'm lucky that I have a great one. She happens to be the only one in the

health center I go to.

I know there are a lot of areas that have support groups for depression.

They go under NAMI I believe. I know they are listed in our local paper.

Maybe by going there you can get the name of a good therapist. I would

check that out. I found my rheumatologist by doing that with my fibro.

Good luck honey, and start researching now because you are moving it's going

to be even more stress.

Tigger (Ruth) in Rhode Island

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