Interesting responses

[Guest guest]

This from a recovery site called Another Empty Bottle. The web master goes

to great lengths to make sure everyone knows that the site is NOT

exclusively 12 Step recovery, but some dont seem to listen. The topic is

" Relapse " .

Here are 2 responses to a question posted by " Oz " Put simply, " To relapse,

dont you need to have a disease to have a relapse " ? (Link:

http://www.alcoholismhelp.com/help/discuss/Forum1/HTML/000002.html )

> Actually, Oz, you don't need a disease to relapse. The word " relapse " is

not used soley to describe a >medical condition. It may also refer to a

return to bad habits.

>I guess I am just in a " picky " mood tonight. Or should I say, a " rational "

mood?

>However, I agree with you and Rooster on two important concepts: 1)

Alcoholism is not a disease; and 2) >Relapse does not mean a return to the

beginning.

>I believe total abstinence is the only solution for me. But don't tell me I

drank because I have a disease; I >drank because I loved to be drunk.

>Neal

>Okay Deano

>Member

>Posts: 141

>If I were 'cured' of cancer or diabetes or relieved that my self-diagnosis

of my medical condition was >incorrect and that I was not suffering from a

possibly fatal progressive disease, I honestly don't believe that I >could

be insensitve enough to go to websights that offer support and consolation

to victims and family >members and friends of sufferers and harangue them

with ludicrous statments while challenging the >methods at which they have

arrested the diseases that threaten their lives and the lives of people that

they >love.

>When I was a suffering alcoholic, I would have been so insensitive.

>Lack of alcohol or outright drunkeness does not constitute sobriety.

Insensitive behavior and selfish >proclamations of personal triumph over

disease in the face of those still suffering or still trying to recover is

>hardly sober behavior regardless what method of recovery is selected.

>That's alcoholic.

[Guest guest]

sounds like hope to me.

>

> >If I were 'cured' of cancer or diabetes or relieved that my

self-diagnosis

> of my medical condition was >incorrect and that I was not

suffering from a

> possibly fatal progressive disease, I honestly don't believe that

I >could

> be insensitve enough to go to websights that offer support and

consolation

> to victims and family >members and friends of sufferers and

harangue them

> with ludicrous statments while challenging the >methods at

which they have

> arrested the diseases that threaten their lives and the lives of

people that

> they >love.

> >When I was a suffering alcoholic, I would have been so

insensitive.

>

> >Lack of alcohol or outright drunkeness does not constitute

sobriety.

> Insensitive behavior and selfish >proclamations of personal

triumph over

> disease in the face of those still suffering or still trying to

recover is

> >hardly sober behavior regardless what method of recovery is

selected.

>

> >That's alcoholic.