ever wonder what I look like... here is a description

January 25, 2008

Okay.

Debra, you started this.

I am 61 and now look it thanks to Fibro, 4' 10 " and about 128 lbs. Oh I can

still remember being 93 lbs. Thanks to the med. " s. it's no more. Was pretty

cute at one time so I was told. Brown hair streaked with blonde, hazel green

eyes and love to laugh,smile and tell jokes. I also enjoy helping others. Have

had a pretty good life with some big time losses. But I have survived and will

continue to thru this group.

I live in Las Vegas with my aunt and have for almost a year after leaving

beautiful Oregon.

I have a little Yorki that I love dearly and is spoiled rotten.

I got the nickname of lilbit because I'm so short.

Love this group.

Little

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Well I quit using the word " pudgy " or heavy, I AM FLUFFY!!!! lol

>

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts here for each

other. I just thought I would give you all a little description of

me as if you came to my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50 on bad days. I

am overweight which has been worse with the years since the fibro

monster moved in full time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am

pudgy. Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that I color

myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I did figure out through

trial and error how to get my hair blonde instead of orange. I have

brown eyes. Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of the

pretty young woman I use to be. (she kind of faded away now)... On

bad days, I scare myself in the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair

looks like a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no matter how much

makeup I put on or don't. I look exhausted. No one seems to notice

because they are use to it. (that is why I say the people at work

have probably thought I am an alcolholic... because I look like I

have partied all night sometimes when I did not even get the benefit

of the FUN part)... LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?) nurse with a

big heart. I get along with everyone I work with. They all seem to

like me because I treat people right. My nurse aids would rather

work with me than most people. LOL.

>

> And I love all of you. I wish you could all just beam up here

like on star trek. hmmmmm?

> Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will go and read

some more posts.

>

> Agape,

> Debra V.

>

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January 25, 2008

thanks for telling us Debra.

how many of us are candid enough to really tell a

stranger who can not see us , what we really look

like.

I just turned 54 on the 15th, have loved being a

paramedic and miss being on the trucks now.

my hair was red (now snow white/silver).blue eyes and

my irish ancestors decided i should have a light

complextion that sunburns in 15minutes then more

freckles pop.lol

i used to never leave the house with out at least

mascara (what good southern girl does). but now a days

it just seems even that takes too much energy.

I love your description of pudgy. I call it short and

compacted. and i can tell all of the partners i have

had on the ambulance. " well at least i can stand up in

the dang thing with out busting my head "

Diane

--- debra van ness wrote:

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts

> here for each other. I just thought I would give

> you all a little description of me as if you came to

> my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50

> on bad days. I am overweight which has been worse

> with the years since the fibro monster moved in full

> time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy.

> Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that

> I color myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I

> did figure out through trial and error how to get my

> hair blonde instead of orange. I have brown eyes.

> Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of

> the pretty young woman I use to be. (she kind of

> faded away now)... On bad days, I scare myself in

> the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like

> a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no

> matter how much makeup I put on or don't. I look

> exhausted. No one seems to notice because they are

> use to it. (that is why I say the people at work

> have probably thought I am an alcolholic... because

> I look like I have partied all night sometimes when

> I did not even get the benefit of the FUN part)...

> LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?)

> nurse with a big heart. I get along with everyone I

> work with. They all seem to like me because I treat

> people right. My nurse aids would rather work with

> me than most people. LOL.

>

> And I love all of you. I wish you could all just

> beam up here like on star trek. hmmmmm?

> Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will

> go and read some more posts.

>

> Agape,

> Debra V.

>

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>

> 1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences

> with everyone on the list as to what treatments do

> and don't work for us, pls always check with your

> dr. Some treatments are dangerous when given along

> with other meds as well as to certain health

> conditions or just dangerous in general.

>

> 2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't

> matter what it is) pls don't be afraid to ask for

> help. It is the first step to trying to make that

> situation better.

>

> 3. To unsubscribe the e-mail is:

>

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>

> 4. Also, it is not uncommon for more than one member

> to be feeling bad at the same time when it comes to

> flares and b/c of that potentially take something

> another member says the wrong way. And that

> includes the things that one member may find funny

> (even if it's laughing at fibro itself) even though

> we who deal with illness whether one such as fibro

> or multiple illnesses try to keep a sense of humor.

>

> 5. Pls let's be gentle with each other, and if you

> are having a bad day pls let us know so that we can

> do our best to offer our support.

>

> Have a nice day everyone.

>

January 25, 2008

Thanks for the description of you! I always wonder

what people look like. The only thing I didn't

understand was 5'5 " and 196 lbs, because we use

centimeters and kilograms. But I can probably check it

on the internet sometime. I knew you are a nurse,

didn't know the age. But anyway, it was nice to read.

Now I have a little picture of you.

--

--- debra van ness wrote:

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts

> here for each other. I just thought I would give

> you all a little description of me as if you came to

> my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50

> on bad days. I am overweight which has been worse

> with the years since the fibro monster moved in full

> time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy.

> Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that

> I color myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I

> did figure out through trial and error how to get my

> hair blonde instead of orange. I have brown eyes.

> Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of

> the pretty young woman I use to be. (she kind of

> faded away now)... On bad days, I scare myself in

> the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like

> a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no

> matter how much makeup I put on or don't. I look

> exhausted. No one seems to notice because they are

> use to it. (that is why I say the people at work

> have probably thought I am an alcolholic... because

> I look like I have partied all night sometimes when

> I did not even get the benefit of the FUN part)...

> LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?)

> nurse with a big heart. I get along with everyone I

> work with. They all seem to like me because I treat

> people right. My nurse aids would rather work with

> me than most people. LOL.

>

> And I love all of you. I wish you could all just

> beam up here like on star trek. hmmmmm?

> Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will

> go and read some more posts.

>

> Agape,

> Debra V.

>

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January 26, 2008

Oh Marti,

And....everyone....I just don't get it. {I understand what YOU are saying..I

just don't get other people that have left us} We've all lost sooo much and

sooo many friends and family. This disease just sucks the life out of you.

Takes everything in it's path. SIGHHHH. Kinda like a major flood. It just

sweeps everything in your life away and leaves you standing with nothing left

including your dignity. A shadow of the person you once were. Everything is

gone.

You are left damaged and alone.

I've lost everything too. Family was never really there for me but now it's

taken the rest of 'em. But friends, good friends that I thought would be there

beside me/us forever.....gone. Disappeared. Or, the couple that remain are

sooo quick to judge and talk behind your back. We've even lost the " family "

that used to include us in everything including holiday dinners (it was shared,

we did our part too. They never did ALL the work by any means). Now they've

asked us not to join them anymore b/c they have new people to come instead.

How many times have we heard them say, in a public setting, " They used to be

like family but they really weren't our family. Our family is family...they

were just *like it*. " I call it the " Pretty Woman Syndrome " where he says to

her " When did I ever treat you like a prostitute? " and says " you

just did. " That's EXACTLY how they make us feel. My hubby agrees. Sad.

My mother stole my daughter and I was too sick to fight her the last time.

the disease took me son. I have nothing left. Hubby's family are all dead, he

lost them as a teen. We have nothing left.

Oh Marti, I never intended to make this about me. I am sorry. Just feeling

sorry for myself lately is all. I was only trying to say I understood how YOU

felt and agree with you. I better sign off before I stick my foot further

down my throat. LOL.

I do appreciate you!

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January 26, 2008

Debra - You know it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside. You

have a truly beautiful spirit and I'm sure that comes out in your

personality when you are in contact with physical persons as well as us

online friends.

But thanks for sharing anyways.

Jeanne in WI

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts here for each other.

> I just thought I would give you all a little description of me as if you

> came to my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50 on bad days. I am

> overweight which has been worse with the years since the fibro monster

> moved in full time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy. Not real

> obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that I color myself... (really a

> true brunette.. LOL). I did figure out through trial and error how to get

> my hair blonde instead of orange. I have brown eyes. Some days when I

> wear makeup, I see a little hint of the pretty young woman I use to be.

> (she kind of faded away now)... On bad days, I scare myself in the

> mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no matter how much makeup I

> put on or don't. I look exhausted. No one seems to notice because they

> are use to it. (that is why I say the people at work have probably

> thought I am an alcolholic... because I look like I have partied all night

> sometimes when I did not even get the benefit of the FUN part)... LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?) nurse with a big

> heart. I get along with everyone I work with. They all seem to like me

> because I treat people right. My nurse aids would rather work with me

> than most people. LOL.

January 26, 2008

ok, my turn. I am 51, 65 inches tall and weigh 148 today. Not obese but

overweight some. Have brown shoulder length hair and light blue eyes.

English, irish and Cherokee ancestors. My stomach is my pudgiest part.

Do have my share of fibro pain. Also cery dry hands and painful

stomach. Seem to be frequently sick, also. Shy around people I haven't

met. Lurk most of the time here.

soft hugs,

Debbie J

January 26, 2008

Thanks for sharing. What a wonderful person you are. I am a german indian.

LOL. Seriously I have a whole lot of german as my father was almost full blood.

My mother's mother was chrokee indian and was born on an indian reservation in

Roland Oklahoma.

So I call myself a German Indian.

Love ya Deb. My thoughts are sure with you lately.

Debra V.

deebs87 wrote:

ok, my turn. I am 51, 65 inches tall and weigh 148 today. Not obese

but

overweight some. Have brown shoulder length hair and light blue eyes.

English, irish and Cherokee ancestors. My stomach is my pudgiest part.

Do have my share of fibro pain. Also cery dry hands and painful

stomach. Seem to be frequently sick, also. Shy around people I haven't

met. Lurk most of the time here.

soft hugs,

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January 26, 2008

>

> So I call myself a German Indian.

> Love ya Deb. My thoughts are sure with you lately.

> Debra V.

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January 26, 2008

Hi Debra, Sorry so long.

I was trying to catch up on some e-mails - only have 700 to go (did someone

say mass delete - I'll have to unfortunately) and yours intrigued me. It would

be so great if we could all get together and have a " convention " somewhere, but

don't think that's going to happen for numerous reasons - cost being a main one.

Some of us that live close together maybe could meet one day.

But what intrigues me the most is that we've become friends/family over the

Internet where we can't see each other and so our impressions of each other are

not biased by looks. Whether we want to or not the way someone looks, being

that it's the first thing we see, affects the way we hear what they say. On

here I think our true selves can come out, even if a little at a time, until we

actually know more about each other than if we did meet. There's something to

be said for being anonymous. There's no one to tell or gossip to that even

knows us and we don't have to worry about what our families or friends might

think when we are writing from our hearts. I feel like we can tell things about

us and our lives that we wouldn't want our families to know we are telling.

Anyway this whole thing led me to want to follow suit with Debra and give my

description.

Debra, you sound a lot like me. I am 5'5 " (and haven't started shrinking yet,

yay!), but I'm 59 and this will be the year of the big 60 in September. I used

to look 10 years younger that I was and now I guess I look about my age. I have

blue eyes and color my hair blond, although it has always been blond until the

grey came in with a vengeance about 10 years ago. I'm trying to stay about the

same color that I was before. It has a lot of ash in the color and not a lot of

yellowish blond, so the grey blends some. My hair has also started thinning out

and my full, too thick hair - that I used to complain about taking forever to

dry - is not so full anymore. Right now it's long, about 3 " below my shoulders,

but I'm planning to get it cut about 2 to 3 " soon. It's all one length.

I have very pale skin, but can tan - don't have the kind of skin that just

burns and peels. Don't tan anymore of course, but my face could surely use the

color. I am overweight. I weighed 200 at my last doctor's visit, although just

3 months before I weighed 180, and 3 months before that 160. The doctor says the

Prednisone has really added the water weight and when I come off of it I will go

back down. We'll see. My face used to be an oval and now it's more like a blow

fish and my legs (my socks I've worn for years leave marks where they end now)

and arms are puffy. Even my glasses make indentations on the sides of my face

because of the puffiness. Before Fibro I weighed 130 for many, many years and

didn't have to worry about what I ate. I was one of the lucky ones until 50. I

exercised a lot, playing tennis and walking mostly and looked like I would love

to look again and, as you said, I see glimpses of that person occasionally. I

had to have a picture taken

for my website that is being redone (on Autism and Asperger Syndrome) and

looking at pictures from last May, I don't even seem to resemble that person in

the picture.

Of course there are the tell tale dark circles all around my eyes, along with

the bags and droopiness that didn't use to be there. I always had some darkness

under my eyes that doctors call allergy eyes, but I could hide it with makeup.

Forget that now. Sarcoidosis added to some of that and my eyes that used to be

my best feature have red and yellow where the white is supposes to be, also from

the sarcoid.

I too look exhausted, but can hide it with makeup for part of the day. As the

day wears on nothing can hide it. I do hear it all the time. Don't know which

is better - for people to notice or not. I kind of think noticing is better

because at least they are looking at me. Most of the time I just feel ignored.

I too have a big heart and get emotional about things happening to other

people, animals, cartoons, movies. I am a very loyal friend and even though I

wear my feelings on my sleeve and can get hurt, I also get over it quickly and

" letitgo " (I generally say it like it's one word.) I never hold grudges. I've

been trying to work on toughening up my skin and it's working somewhat. I've

become down over the people who I thought were the best of my friends, but who

have drifted away as the fibro, etc has made me less available and fun. Making

plans and having to cancel because I don't feel well (or hurt like hell) has

driven both friends and family away. Some friendships I've had for many years

and thought would last forever have just disappeared without any explanation.

This part of the disease is the hardest for me. I would never do that to a

friend and will never understand why it happens.

Well that's about as long a description as anyone has ever written I'm sure.

I get long winded sometime - funny because right now I'm very short winded.

I love you all and appreciate your being here for me. I really need it. You

are mostly all I have, with a few exceptions.

Marti

debra van ness wrote:

Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts here for each

other. I just thought I would give you all a little description of me as if you

came to my front door.

I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50 on bad days. I am overweight

which has been worse with the years since the fibro monster moved in full time.

LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy. Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde

hair that I color myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I did figure out

through trial and error how to get my hair blonde instead of orange. I have

brown eyes. Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of the pretty

young woman I use to be. (she kind of faded away now)... On bad days, I scare

myself in the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like a stack of

straw " ... lol.

I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no matter how much makeup I put on

or don't. I look exhausted. No one seems to notice because they are use to it.

(that is why I say the people at work have probably thought I am an

alcolholic... because I look like I have partied all night sometimes when I did

not even get the benefit of the FUN part)... LOL.

Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?) nurse with a big heart. I get

along with everyone I work with. They all seem to like me because I treat people

right. My nurse aids would rather work with me than most people. LOL.

And I love all of you. I wish you could all just beam up here like on star trek.

hmmmmm?

Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will go and read some more posts.

Agape,

Debra V.

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January 26, 2008

Isn't if funny about us Southerm Girls and our makeup. I live in CT now and

don't give it much though. If I feel well enough or am going somewhere special

I put on makeup. But I was raised down south and always had some makeup on

before I left the house, heck even in the house.

Marti

Nd wrote:

thanks for telling us Debra.

how many of us are candid enough to really tell a

stranger who can not see us , what we really look

like.

I just turned 54 on the 15th, have loved being a

paramedic and miss being on the trucks now.

my hair was red (now snow white/silver).blue eyes and

my irish ancestors decided i should have a light

complextion that sunburns in 15minutes then more

freckles pop.lol

i used to never leave the house with out at least

mascara (what good southern girl does). but now a days

it just seems even that takes too much energy.

I love your description of pudgy. I call it short and

compacted. and i can tell all of the partners i have

had on the ambulance. " well at least i can stand up in

the dang thing with out busting my head "

Diane

--- debra van ness wrote:

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts

> here for each other. I just thought I would give

> you all a little description of me as if you came to

> my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50

> on bad days. I am overweight which has been worse

> with the years since the fibro monster moved in full

> time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy.

> Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that

> I color myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I

> did figure out through trial and error how to get my

> hair blonde instead of orange. I have brown eyes.

> Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of

> the pretty young woman I use to be. (she kind of

> faded away now)... On bad days, I scare myself in

> the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like

> a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no

> matter how much makeup I put on or don't. I look

> exhausted. No one seems to notice because they are

> use to it. (that is why I say the people at work

> have probably thought I am an alcolholic... because

> I look like I have partied all night sometimes when

> I did not even get the benefit of the FUN part)...

> LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?)

> nurse with a big heart. I get along with everyone I

> work with. They all seem to like me because I treat

> people right. My nurse aids would rather work with

> me than most people. LOL.

>

> And I love all of you. I wish you could all just

> beam up here like on star trek. hmmmmm?

> Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will

> go and read some more posts.

>

> Agape,

> Debra V.

>

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> Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> 1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences

> with everyone on the list as to what treatments do

> and don't work for us, pls always check with your

> dr. Some treatments are dangerous when given along

> with other meds as well as to certain health

> conditions or just dangerous in general.

>

> 2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't

> matter what it is) pls don't be afraid to ask for

> help. It is the first step to trying to make that

> situation better.

>

> 3. To unsubscribe the e-mail is:

>

Fibromyalgia_Support_Group-unsubscribe

>

> 4. Also, it is not uncommon for more than one member

> to be feeling bad at the same time when it comes to

> flares and b/c of that potentially take something

> another member says the wrong way. And that

> includes the things that one member may find funny

> (even if it's laughing at fibro itself) even though

> we who deal with illness whether one such as fibro

> or multiple illnesses try to keep a sense of humor.

>

> 5. Pls let's be gentle with each other, and if you

> are having a bad day pls let us know so that we can

> do our best to offer our support.

>

> Have a nice day everyone.

>

January 26, 2008

I think it's fun learning what people look like.

Marti

Svensson wrote:

Thanks for the description of you! I always wonder

what people look like. The only thing I didn't

understand was 5'5 " and 196 lbs, because we use

centimeters and kilograms. But I can probably check it

on the internet sometime. I knew you are a nurse,

didn't know the age. But anyway, it was nice to read.

Now I have a little picture of you.

--

--- debra van ness wrote:

> Just was thinking how we have such wonderful hearts

> here for each other. I just thought I would give

> you all a little description of me as if you came to

> my front door.

>

> I am about 5'5 " ... I am 43 and look closer to 50

> on bad days. I am overweight which has been worse

> with the years since the fibro monster moved in full

> time. LOL. I weigh about 196 lbs. I am pudgy.

> Not real obese, but pudgy. I have blonde hair that

> I color myself... (really a true brunette.. LOL). I

> did figure out through trial and error how to get my

> hair blonde instead of orange. I have brown eyes.

> Some days when I wear makeup, I see a little hint of

> the pretty young woman I use to be. (she kind of

> faded away now)... On bad days, I scare myself in

> the mornings. LOL...... " oh no, my hair looks like

> a stack of straw " ... lol.

> I ALWAYS have the dark circles around my eyes no

> matter how much makeup I put on or don't. I look

> exhausted. No one seems to notice because they are

> use to it. (that is why I say the people at work

> have probably thought I am an alcolholic... because

> I look like I have partied all night sometimes when

> I did not even get the benefit of the FUN part)...

> LOL.

> Anyway, just a pudgy middle aged (did I say that?)

> nurse with a big heart. I get along with everyone I

> work with. They all seem to like me because I treat

> people right. My nurse aids would rather work with

> me than most people. LOL.

>

> And I love all of you. I wish you could all just

> beam up here like on star trek. hmmmmm?

> Ok I am getting a little wierd now. Guess I will

> go and read some more posts.

>

> Agape,

> Debra V.

>

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January 26, 2008

Well said Angie. I think we all feel the same as you. I too wear my heart my

my sleeve as my dad put it. I'm now finally learning to wait and see method.

thank god my best friend in the whole world is still my best friend. she tells

me she is in awe on how I handle all that pain. Well what else can I do I tell

her. and she is interested in Fibro and has looked it up on the internet so she

can better understand what I am going thru.

anyway glad to sort of meet you.

Little

LINDA

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January 26, 2008

Jeanne, you have a huge family now. the group and we care about you so very

much. I know that things you have written to me have made a hugh impact. So

remember how to get ahold of your " family " anytime. We'll come a running.

God bless

Little

LINDA

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January 26, 2008

Jennie, it's just so true. I wish there were someway to find out why they go

away. I know it's something I would never do and couldn't imagine them doing it

either. We use to have Thanksgiving with one of these friends. We were

friends, lived across the street from each other, in Georgia. They ended up

moving to Maine and we came to CT. Neither of us had family to have

Thanksgiving with so we started rotating one year we'd go to Maine and the other

year they'd come to CT. Then a few years ago - nothing. We'd known each other

and she and I were so close since our children were born. The kids were very

close. Mine were 2 years younger that hers. The whole families were close. We

laughed, told our secrets to each other and loved each other. It's gone. I

don't have any idea why or how such a thing can happen. They were truly closer

than family, because my dad died and my mother and I are not close and my

brother died. It makes no sense. It doesn't compute. We

had gone to her youngest sons wedding in Maine and they had come to my

daughter's wedding. Then her oldest son gets married last year in Georgia and

we didn't even get an invitation. All correspondence is cut off. If I call her

on the phone, which I have stopped doing, she will talk to me acting as if

nothing is different and then go on about her business. We vacationed together.

There is another family just as close who I've been friends with since

college. We couldn't have been closer. When we had our children they became

best friends too. When we moved to CT they stayed in Georgia and we took turns

every year going back and forth to see each other. Constantly talked on the

phone. Exchanged presents and cards. We were family. We have grandchildren

the same ages. Two Thanksgivings ago I called and left a message.and no one

returned it. I just thought it got lost. I called back a few days later and

left another message. I haven't heard anything from them since then. It's like

I fell off the face of the earth. It doesn't make sense.

I could go on and on, but it's too much. These things depress me more than

the pain and foggy brain and not being able to get around or work. I know I

should let it go but I still want to know why.

Anyway, didn't mean to go on and on, but we have suffered the same plight and

it hurts like hell.

Take care, Marti

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