Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 This is very interesting and makes sense. Great analogy. I understand exactly what you are saying. I guess I idle at about a 6 or about 6000 RPMS. LOL. But true. That is a great way to put it. I need to have massage but cant afford it at all. It might be of benefit. I understand that. I do believe this has something to do with the buildup of toxins. (I think that is part of the complicated chain of reactions in our bodies with FM). hugs, Debra V. wrote: Thought this was interesting for those of us with horrible trigger point trouble: Trigger point work is valuable when working with Fibromyalgia patients. Because of the chronicity of the pain, there are often numerous trigger points. People who are suffering with FIbromyalgia, are in a constant state of heightened stimulation. They are in a sympathetic state (neurologically overstimulated) most of the time. Therefore, their brains are constantly on the go. An anology is with cars. A normal car will idle at a fairly low RPM. This prevents excessive wear and tear on the car, plus allows the car to be put into gear with minimal stress on the components. A person with Fibromyalgia has a much higher idle speed. Thus, there's a greater strain on the body and mind, with less opportunity for repair. They are in a constant state of near exhaustion. It may only take a slight exertion for them to become exhausted. If we use the 1- 10 scale for exhaustion where 10 is exhaustion, then for a normal, healthy person, we may be, on a daily basis at around the 1 - 5 range. This gives us a tremendous store of energy before exhausting ourselves. Patients with Fibromyalgia, may, on a daily basis, be running between 4-8+. This means that as MT's, we need to be very conscious of the ability of massage improve this range, but also be aware that the work may literally exhause the client rather than relax them. Chronic hypertonicity, such as that found in people with Fibromyalgia, results in higher degrees of toxins in the tissue. When body work is applied to someone with Fibromyalgia, the sudden surge of toxins into the blood stream can literally make a Fibromyalgia patient feel exhausted and possibly even sicker than when they came in. Of course, with proper hydration, the effects of the toxins will pass, but this must be a very important consideration with working with a Fibromyalgia patient. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 > > wrote: > Thought this was interesting for those of us with horrible trigger > point trouble: > > Trigger point work is valuable when working with Fibromyalgia > patients. Because of the chronicity of the pain, there are often > numerous trigger points. Hmmm....this IS interesting and makes total sense. Where did you find this? Just wondering what more your source might have to say. Thanks Vicki MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 > > Hi Vicki, > > I did a search on Rolfing and Fibro. My co-worker gets > Rofed (LOL) and it has helped her. Its very expensive > though. This is the link where I found it > http://members.fortunecity.com/webbsweb/fibromyalgia/id9.html > Thanks so much. I'm off from work today, so I'm spending time getting caught up with this group. I'm sorry that I don't know if I ever introduced myself to everyone. I, like so many of you that I've been reading about, don't always have the energy to respond, but I do try to skim through anyway and respond when I can. I appreciate hearing from everyone! Vicki MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I used to see a masseuse that trained for and got licensed to do rolfing. She told me a lot about it during my massages. I never tried it though. I wish I could afford to go back to her though. She was a very good masseuse. Angie Harley Mama Double-D Carson City, NV; Single, five children (3 at home), 2 dogs, 5 cats, snow skiing, camping, Harley Rider, Lone Wolf, Blue Thong Society/High Sierra Thong Snappers member, LFA Advocate, independent, opinionated, outspoken, and open minded. " It's always something. " ~~~Gilda Radner " While we have the gift of life, it seems to me theonly tragedy is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit,our creativity or our glorious uniqueness. " ~~~Gilda Radner http://360.yahoo.com/lovinglifeinnv http://www.myspace.com/amkg http://doripost.agrato.info/ http://www.xanga.com/PurplePassionate http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=592316375 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LupusSurvivorsU/ Re: Rolfing Hi Vicki, I did a search on Rolfing and Fibro. My co-worker gets Rofed (LOL) and it has helped her. Its very expensive though. This is the link where I found it http://members. fortunecity. com/webbsweb/ fibromyalgia/ id9.html --- vicki <evnelsonwildblue (DOT) net> wrote: > > > > > <elenaginam@ ...> wrote: > > Thought this was interesting for those > of us with horrible > trigger > > point trouble: > > > > Trigger point work is valuable when working with > Fibromyalgia > > patients. Because of the chronicity of the pain, > there are often > > numerous trigger points. > > > Hmmm....this IS interesting and makes total sense. > Where did you find > this? > Just wondering what more your source might have to > say. > Thanks > Vicki > MN > > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Whenever I have someone massage even my shoulders and neck, which hurt so bad, I feel so much better afterward. But then the next day it hurts much worse and lasts for days. The same thing happened to me whenever I took a nice warm bath - rebouding like crazy. Take care, Marti Angie wrote: I used to see a masseuse that trained for and got licensed to do rolfing. She told me a lot about it during my massages. I never tried it though. I wish I could afford to go back to her though. She was a very good masseuse. Angie Harley Mama Double-D Carson City, NV; Single, five children (3 at home), 2 dogs, 5 cats, snow skiing, camping, Harley Rider, Lone Wolf, Blue Thong Society/High Sierra Thong Snappers member, LFA Advocate, independent, opinionated, outspoken, and open minded. " It's always something. " ~~~Gilda Radner " While we have the gift of life, it seems to me theonly tragedy is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit,our creativity or our glorious uniqueness. " ~~~Gilda Radner http://360.yahoo.com/lovinglifeinnv http://www.myspace.com/amkg http://doripost.agrato.info/ http://www.xanga.com/PurplePassionate http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=592316375 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LupusSurvivorsU/ Re: Rolfing Hi Vicki, I did a search on Rolfing and Fibro. My co-worker gets Rofed (LOL) and it has helped her. Its very expensive though. This is the link where I found it http://members. fortunecity. com/webbsweb/ fibromyalgia/ id9.html --- vicki <evnelsonwildblue (DOT) net> wrote: > > > > > <elenaginam@ ...> wrote: > > Thought this was interesting for those > of us with horrible > trigger > > point trouble: > > > > Trigger point work is valuable when working with > Fibromyalgia > > patients. Because of the chronicity of the pain, > there are often > > numerous trigger points. > > > Hmmm....this IS interesting and makes total sense. > Where did you find > this? > Just wondering what more your source might have to > say. > Thanks > Vicki > MN > > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ...bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ...MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ...replbq{margin:4;} --> __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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