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I think we all need to try one of these.

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>> > > We should all try practicing this!!!

>> > >

>> > > I hired a carpenter to help me restore an old

>> > > farmhouse, and he had just finished a rough first day

>> > > on the job. A flat tire made him lose an hour of work,

>> > > his electric saw quit, and now his ancient pickup

>> > > truck refused to start. While I drove him home, he sat

>> > > in stony silence.

>> > > On arriving, he invited me in to meet his family. As

>> > > we walked toward the front door, he paused briefly at

>> > > a small tree, touching tips of the branches with both

>> > > hands. When opening the door, he underwent an amazing

>> > > transformation. His tanned face was wreathed in smiles

>> > > and he hugged his two small children and gave his wife

>> > > a kiss. Afterward he walked me to the car.

>> > > We passed the tree and my curiosity got the better

>> > > of me. I asked him about what I had seen him do

>> > > earlier. " Oh, that's my trouble tree, " he replied. " I

>> > > know I can't help having troubles on the job,but one

>> > > thing's for sure, troubles don't belong in the house

>> > > with my wife and the children. So I just hang them up

>> > > on the tree every night when I come home. Then in the

>> > > morning I pick them up again.

>> > > Funny thing is he smiled, " when I come out in the

>> > > morning to pick 'em up, there aren't nearly as many as

>> > > I remember hanging up the night before. "

>> > > THIS ONE IS WORTH SENDING ON...

>

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Dear ,

I got this the other day...thought you might want to share it with Rich (I

can only hope Steve

read it when it came through!

>

>> > > We should all try practicing this!!!

>> > >

>> > > I hired a carpenter to help me restore an old

>> > > farmhouse, and he had just finished a rough first day

>> > > on the job. A flat tire made him lose an hour of work,

>> > > his electric saw quit, and now his ancient pickup

>> > > truck refused to start. While I drove him home, he sat

>> > > in stony silence.

>> > > On arriving, he invited me in to meet his family. As

>> > > we walked toward the front door, he paused briefly at

>> > > a small tree, touching tips of the branches with both

>> > > hands. When opening the door, he underwent an amazing

>> > > transformation. His tanned face was wreathed in smiles

>> > > and he hugged his two small children and gave his wife

>> > > a kiss. Afterward he walked me to the car.

>> > > We passed the tree and my curiosity got the better

>> > > of me. I asked him about what I had seen him do

>> > > earlier. " Oh, that's my trouble tree, " he replied. " I

>> > > know I can't help having troubles on the job,but one

>> > > thing's for sure, troubles don't belong in the house

>> > > with my wife and the children. So I just hang them up

>> > > on the tree every night when I come home. Then in the

>> > > morning I pick them up again.

>> > > Funny thing is he smiled, " when I come out in the

>> > > morning to pick 'em up, there aren't nearly as many as

>> > > I remember hanging up the night before. "

>> > > THIS ONE IS WORTH SENDING ON...

>

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Mark

Thank you for the diet information. I understand that antibiotics interfere

in this process of healthy digestion. Does this also apply to antihistimes

etc.

Secondly, how does alchohol fit into the equation. It is okay to have in

moderation at certain times?

Regards

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>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:46:41 -0700

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>sending and forgot the correct way to post.

> Mark

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Hi ,

Antibiotic are the worst for digestive disruption and constant use of

antihistamines or pain killers does not help ether but is not as bad. Alcohol

in moderation is not harmful but they do supply sugars and beer has yeast which

both feed bacteria and Candidia. And I will explain it all in great length in

part 3. It is very complicated.

Take care,

Mark

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> Mark

>

> Thank you for the diet information. I understand that antibiotics interfere

> in this process of healthy digestion. Does this also apply to antihistimes

> etc.

>

> Secondly, how does alchohol fit into the equation. It is okay to have in

> moderation at certain times?

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> >

> >To: " rosacea-supportegroups " <rosacea-supportegroups>

> >Subject: (no subject)

> >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:46:41 -0700

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> > I hope that went through all right, I was disconected twice as I was

> >sending and forgot the correct way to post.

> > Mark

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Hi a,

The National cea Society also says that they do not know what causes

or the cure for rosacea. Intolerences or triggers are delayed and hard to

identify. I found that there is very little helpful information available

and most asumptions are wrong, they look at short term effects and not the

most important long term effects. I do suggest fruits lower in sugar like

bananas, strawberries, cheeries, blue berries ect. Fresh fruits contain

Fructo Oligo Sacharides which helps digestive balance and healing.

Take Care,

Mark

a Maynard wrote:

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> Mark -

> Thanks so much for posting your diet plan. I'm surprised to see that

> you eat yogurt and fruits (including raisins and citrus)- two

> categories the cia National Society says could actually trigger

> cia.

>

> As well, fruits are very high in sugar. I guess everyone is

> different in terms of what they can tolerate. Thanks again. Paual

>

> > I hope that went through all right, I was disconected twice as I

> was

> > sending and forgot the correct way to post.

> > Mark

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Hi ette,

I would suggest that you try my diet and supplements. When you see results

you can reduce your antibiotic dose gradually until you no longer need them.

Carrot

juice may also help with the natural carotenes that have been reported to help

eyes.

Best wishes,

Mark

Pport20@... wrote:

> Mark,

>

> I was told to use antibiotics, probably long-term by my eye doctor because of

occular rosacea. Is there anything else that I can use to help this condition?

>

> Thanks,

> ette

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I am 35 and it started getting bad after my second child in 1996....although

now thanks to the suggestions from the group I would say I have it under

control too

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I am 56 and got roscea after a bad case of the flu almost 5 yrs ago. I am

now undergoing photoderm in hopes of getting rid of some of the awful

flushing I have. I also take Clonidine to help with the flushing.

GLORIA :)

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I'm soon-to-be 27, and I think I had my first flare

after a really bad sunburn when I was 16. It cleared

after a year or so and continued to improved until I

was about 25. I'm not sure what triggered it the

second time around. Probably a combination of things.

After a series of 7 or 8 photoderms treatments, some

major diet modifications and lifestyle changes (like

learning how to control stress), and daily use of a

good sunscreen, it's now under control.

--- mnbcg@... wrote:

> Can we get some ages in here, I'm 31 years old and

> have this since I became

> pregnant with my son in 1995? Some days are awesome

> and others not so great,

> but I seem to have it under control.

>

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> All this talk about Photoderm...what is it?

I have a question concerning this procedure as well. I'm just

wondering if photoderm is necessary in reversing this condition. I

have been using certain products with a fair bit of results, however,

a flare is always just two steps away. I feel that my condition has

reversed somewhat but nevertheless there is much room for

improvement. I have heard alot of talk about photoderm and am tempted

to try it but I really don't have the money... has anyone had a great

deal of success treating this condition without the use of photoderm?

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mnbcg@... wrote:

> Can we get some ages in here, I'm 31 years old and have this since I became

> pregnant with my son in 1995? Some days are awesome and others not so great,

> but I seem to have it under control.

I'm 32. Been developing gradually since about age 25, but not officially

diagnosed til 1996.

G

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I am 29 and am now scared to death to have a child. It seems like a lot of

people's rosacea gets worse after having a child. I know some of you are

going to write me back saying that it is worth having a child anyway - I am

sure it is, but it is still scary as hell. I think my R was in the beginning

stages 2 -3 yrs. ago. I baked in tanning beds for several years and lived in

the sun. Last year I was baking more than normal getting ready for my 10 yr.

reunion. Now, of course, no more sun for me!

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It's great you do this i haven't posted in a while i had my surgery on

3-29-01 as scheduled am back at work and by my home scale have lost 72 pounds

in about 8 weeks.

Vicki from Centerville MA

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DEAR VICKIE

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE LOOSING 72 LBS IN 7 WEEKS. ARE YOU COUNTING THE FLUID WEIGHT THAT YOU CAME HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL WITH. I NEVER COUNTED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY FLUID THAT THEY PUT IN ME BUT EVEN IF YOU DO NOT COUNT THAT THAT IS STILL A GREAT WEIGHT LOSS. RAYNA

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Thanks Don,

How did you figure the average weight loss?

Beth

On Fri, 18 May 2001 10:05:18 EDT Dondj@... writes:

> Ok guys,

> I know I haven't sent one of these in a while, so it's

> probably

> hopelessly outdated. But, let me know and I will be happy to update

> any info

> on you. For all you newcomers, I started this list a while ago

> thinking that

> it might be fun to know where everybody was from. As you can see, it

> has

> since grown quite a bit. If you want to be on it then end me your

> name, city,

> doctor, date and amount lost if any, and I will be more than happy

> to add it.

> Even though it needs to be updated, the numbers are still very very

> impressive. So, let me know

>

> Don

>

>

>

>

>

>

> NAME DOCTOR DATE OF WLS AMT. LOST

>

> CONNECTICUT

>

> - Putnam - Thayer - NWH - 06-05-2000 -104

>

> FLORIDA

>

> - Gainseville - Carrasquilla - 11-29-2000 -70

>

> MAINE

>

> Ruthanne - Aslam - pre-op

>

> MASSACHUSETTS

>

> Alice A.- Watertown - Thayer - NWH -04-25-00 -82

> - Ashburnham - Thayer - NWH -03-01-2001 pre-op

> Amy - Gardner - Reines-NWH -08-07-2001 pre-op

> Annie - Everett - Randall - LMH - 03-22-1999 -140

> - Marblehead - Randall - LMH - 11-27-2000 -70

> Anita - Millbury - 03-01-01 -17

> Beth - Dedham - Reines -NWH - 03-21-2000 -103

> Carla - Randall - LMH - 06-15-1999 -120

> Carole - Braintree - Thayer - MWH - 07-19-2001 pre-op

> Cheryl - Newton - Reines -NWH - 11-29-1999 -98

> - Waltham

> Dawn - Merrimac - Randall - LMH - 08-09-1999 -189

> Debbie - Ashland - Thayer - NWH - 01-13-2000 -141

> Diane M. - Danvers - Brams - Lahey - 02-12-01 ?

> Don Newbury - Methuen - Randall - LMH - 08-21-2000 -204

> - Dracut - 02-12-2001 ?

> Ellen - Webster - Reines - NWH - 04-17-2001 Pre-Op

> - Thayer - NWH - 05-17-01 Pre-Op

> R. - Lynn - Forse - BMH - 10-31-00 -83

> - Marstons Mills - No Date Yet

> Jeanie - Brockton - Bodner - 04-26-2000 -177

> Jeff - Mun - BI pre-op

> K. - Framingham - Thayer - NWH - 03-20-2001 -32

> Stoney - Danvers - Thayer - NWH - 03-19-2001 -23

> Tharret - Norfolk - Thayer - NWH - 05-03-01 ?

> Jo - Pepperell - Randall - LMH - 05-25-1999 -130

> Joni - Fitchburg - Thayer - NWH - 11-27-2000 -58

> Joy - Cambridge - 08-23-2000 -108

> Joy - (Parts Unknown)

> Kitson - Randall - LMH - 05-08-2001 pre-op

> - Salem

> Kathy - Leicester

> Kim - Methuen - Reines - NWH - 08-14-2001 Pre-Op

> Kim - Templeton - Thayer - NWH - 12-28-2000 -26

> Kim - Webster

> Kim M. - Plymouth - Thayer - NWH - 05-24-1999 -128

> - Salem - Mun - BI - 05-08-2000 -102

> - North Truro - Thayer - NWH - 02-02-2001 -40

> Liz - Parts Unknown - Berkowitz - 11-14-2000 -104

> Lois - Brockton

> Lori - Bellingham - Thayer - NWH - 03-12-01 pre-op

> Louise - Auburn

> Mara - Arlington - Mun-BI - 02-14-2001 pre-op

> Margaret - Cambridge - Thayer - NWH - 02-01-01 -55

> Marla- Brockton - Thayer - NWH - 01-30-2001 -27

> Martha R. Chelmsford - Thayer - NWH - 04-10-01 ?

> Jane - Reines - NWH - 07-2001 pre-op

> Lee - Westborough - Rheines - NWH - 04-03-2001 pre-op

> Maura - Melrose - Thayer - NWH - 09-25-2000 -105

> - Marlboro - Reines - NWH - 01-29-01 -42

> Norma - Bradford - son - BWH - 12-09-1999 -101

> Pam Cole - Mun- BI - no date yet pre-op

> Pam Krist - Salisbury - Brams - Lahey - 06-26-2000 -91

> a Rheaume - Sommerville - Reines - NWH - 02-08-2000 -146

> Priscilla - Worthington - - UMASS - 08-23-00 -110

> Roseanna - Marlboro - Thayer - NWH - 10-11-2000 -73

> Sally MacDuff - Needham - Thayer - NWH - 01-02-2001 -24

> Sherri - Worcester - - UMASS Waiting for date

> Sheva - Truro

> Sue - Bellingham - Thayer - NWH - 04-03-2001 Pre-Op -29

> Sue - Groton - Randall - LMH - 12-20-00 -43

> Sue - Webster -100

> Sue D. - Methuen - Thayer - NWH - 02-22-01 -45

> Tina - Springfield

> - Weymouth - Gastwirt - BI - 12-15-2000 -82

> Tricia - Plymouth

> Vicki - Centerville - Thayer - NWH - 03-29-2001 pre-op

>

> NEW HAMPSHIRE

>

> Andee - Seabrook

> Beverly - Rindge

> Devon - Epping

> Diane - Penacook - Thayer - NWH - 09-19-2000

> Edith - Londonderry

> Jan - Hudson - Randall - LMH - 11-28-2000 -63

> Lea - Berlin - Burchard - Dartmouth - 07-21-2000 -179

> Lori - Salem - Thayer - NWH - 11-09-1999 -200

> Lyssa Foulkes - Merrimack - Thayer - NWH - 06-22-99 -100

> Meg - Nashua

> Rayna - Pelham - Randall - LMH - 11-20-00 -78

> Sylvia S. - Seabrook - Thayer - NWH - 11-21-2000 -58

>

> NEW YORK

>

> Sue F. - Buffalo - Carauanda

>

> SCOTLAND

>

> Kay - Aberdeen - Thayer - NWH - 10-06-1998 -136

>

> RHODE ISLAND

>

> - Portsmouth - Thayer - NWH - 12-27-1999 -126

> Dottie Duval - Thayer - NWH - 12-26-2000 -42

> A. - Providence - Thayer - NWH - 01-22-2001 -35

> - Providence - Rheines - NWH - 07-09-01 pre-op

>

> VERMONT

>

> Rita - Spaulding - Fletcher- - 03-31-94 -268

> - Wolcott No Date Yet

>

> Key LMH Lawrence Memorial Hosptial

> NWH Newton Wellesley Hospital Lost 4149

> BWH Brigham and Women's Hospital

> BI Beth Israel Hospital Average Weight

> Loss

> 05-18-01

> -186

>

>

>

>

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What I was wondering if it includes everyone or just post ops?

Beth

On Fri, 18 May 2001 11:16:38 EDT Dondj@... writes:

> Beth,

> I have this list on a spreadsheet and it does it for me.

>

> Don

>

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