Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

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<< I only want . The reason, is pure

selfishness. I freely admit that. >>>

I want to say my reason for having so many children is exactly the same,

selfishness. I grew up with just me and my brother. He was blinded at birth and

very high needs, guess who took care of him, Me. If I could tie my shoes, I

tired 's. (my mother can not even take care of herself) I would have loved

a huge family to help me. I want to create what I didn't have as a child. Love,

companionship and friendship. and I are still close but it's put upon my

shoulders to be the rock that holds this family together. No one ever thinks

that rock might crumble. Trust me there is a lot of history in my family and I

wanted to create my own little world with my children. IN my eyes that selfish

of me.

Love

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It is women like you, Jorgha, Sara, Salli, etc that I really admire. People

that have more than one child and put them first. Lots of women have more

than 1 child, but, the children's needs come 2nd, 3rd, or even lower to

other things. (I'm not talking about women on this list).

Besides the fact that only wanted the 1 child, (I at first wanted

more), but now that I know how much work and energy they take, especially

when they have special needs, I only want . The reason, is pure

selfishness. I freely admit that. I like the little bit of free time I can

grab by putting off housework. My MIL can watch just once in a

while for an hour or two. Add in another child, and I wouldn't be able to

do that, and I don't want to give that up for another child. Now, I will

say that if an accident were to occur (highly unlikely, since we have sex

here once in a blue moon), it would be welcomed, loved and cherished, and we

would deal. It's just not a CHOICE I would make.

ellen

Couple Time, Me time and More

is at school most day, but I still have 3 children here. I made that

choice, I made all these choices that puts me last. I'm ok with that. I

really need a haircut, that will be some me time, oh and the 20 mins to

color out the gray that never seems to stop.

I don't want anyone to think I don't love my marriage or children when I

vent. I vent to fill a need for understanding. I was ready to cry last week

and put myself in a hole and never come out. These mom's saved me from that.

They understood where I was, these virtual hugs saved me.

Love

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> Now, I will say that if an accident were to occur (highly

unlikely, since we have sex here once in a blue moon), it would be

welcomed, loved and cherished, and we would deal. It's just not a

CHOICE I would make.

>

Um....watch what you say. ;o)

Mike and I stopped at 2 kids. He was working 12 hour days 7 days a

week, sex? What's that? One time that ENTIRE month. Once. We'd been

married for 8 years, we were both pushing 30. We knew how to use a

condom and we used it properly.

Apparantly it had a hole or something because is here.

Do I love him? Absolutely. Does having a 3rd child make life more

difficult. Absolutely. Especially when you add his past history of

seizures and delays. I don't know if he's spectrum or not, but he

certainly has some autistic behaviors.

Was this a choice I made? No. But he's a wonderful little boy and I'm

glad he's here.

Tina

PS. You did knock wood when you typed that didn't you??

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> I want to say my reason for having so many children is exactly the

same, selfishness. I grew up with just me and my brother. He was

blinded at birth and very high needs, guess who took care of him, Me.

If I could tie my shoes, I tired 's. (my mother can not even

take care of herself)

>

My mother has some serious issues. I helped raise my younger brother

though a lot of the responsibility fell to my older sister.

Fortunately for both of us, he was NT.

I worry about this a lot though. I try to never put Sami in the

position where she feels she has to be or 's parent. I do

ask her to help pick 's clothes because they're wearing the same

size and she doesn't want wearing her stuff. Problem is, I

never remember who's blue jeans are who's. Sami likes to cook and

every now and then, she'll make eggs or grilled cheese for the other

two but never without some help.

Tina

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> I try to never put Sami in the position where she feels she has to be or

's parent. <

it sounds to me that she does these things because she wants to or doesn't mind.

i don't think that's a problem. is there anything that sarah or allen could do

for her? i realize your situation is different cause sami is older, but i have

kailey help me out with trevor quite a bit. she's actually a VERY good big

sister. it's only stuff she can handle, of course, but i think it has given her

a little better sense of responsibility

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> it sounds to me that she does these things because she wants to or

doesn't mind. i don't think that's a problem. is there anything that

sarah or allen could do for her? i realize your situation is

different cause sami is older, but i have kailey help me out with

trevor quite a bit. she's actually a VERY good big sister. it's only

stuff she can handle, of course, but i think it has given her a

little better sense of responsibility

>

Actually Sami's the middle child. She's 17 mos younger than but

because of 's delays and Sami being gifted, they're worlds

apart. Sometimes I forget that Sami isn't the oldest.

Sami isn't without her devious side. We've had to get after her more

than once for ordering her sister and brother about like

slaves. ;o) " Get me a drink, get my blanket... "

I make an effort to ask and both to help out more. If I

keep the directions down to 2 steps, can usually help. is

getting better but his attention span is still so short I don't ask

him for much.

Tina

[Guest guest]

> We've had to get after her more than once for ordering her sister and brother

about like slaves. ;o) <

well hey, we all like a slave now and then, don't we?

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> > We've had to get after her more than once for ordering her sister

and brother about like slaves. ;o) <

>

> well hey, we all like a slave now and then, don't we?

>

Actually I'd like two or three at the moment. ;o)

I still have Christmas presents to wrap, laundry to do and a pile of

dishes in the sink from baking cookies and brownies.

Make that 4 or 5...preferably tall, dark and handsome. ;o)

Tina

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/21/02 6:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

danaar1@... writes:

> Problem is, I never remember who's blue jeans are who's

They sell little iron on transfers at walmart you could let one of the girls

pick out some and then keep the jeans seperate that way.

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In a message dated 12/21/02 9:37:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

my3apsons@... writes:

> Me Time? I'm not sure what that is. I'm lucky if I get a shower. I " m even

> luckier if that shower is alone and not with one of the kids.

I only have and there are many times that I just say forget it.

My husband is sleeping and she'll follow me in. She jumps up and down alot

and I've always been scared that she'll slip on the floor. We have an

electric heather since the bathroom doesn't heat up well. I'm always scared

that she will hurt herself so I get out and then there's water on the floor

and I'm scared she'll slip so we're back to square one again.

We;re here and vent all you like.

Hugs wendy

[Guest guest]

> has outgrown showering with mom, thank God. The last thing I need is

someone else trying to get into my shower time <

i guess it's different with kailey cause she's a girl. it doesn't really bother

me if she wants to get in with me. is that weird? in fact, last night i was just

going in to take a quick one and she wanted to come with me, so both of us were

squeezed into the little shower stall, we were having fun with word play and she

was drinking water off of me. good times...

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

> My brother and his wife, I caught attaching to a leash in the back yard

and walking him like a dog. Yes these are 30 year old adults that are about to

have their first child. (Lord give me strength) (Oh the reason for doing this,

they thought it was funny) <

ugh! i suppose it was her idea too, huh? she's insane

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

<<<<ugh! i suppose it was her idea too, huh? she's insane>>>>

Yes I'm afraid it was, and I'm sad to say that this is what happens to a human

that is somewhere on the low end of the spectrum that never receives the help

they need.

As the years go by she gets odder and odder

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[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 12/21/02 6:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> danaar1@y... writes:

>

> > Problem is, I never remember who's blue jeans are who's

>

> They sell little iron on transfers at walmart you could let one of

the girls pick out some and then keep the jeans seperate that way.

>

thanks for the suggestion . I might have to try that because

doesn't care what she wears and Sami is forever taking the

nicer jeans and swearing they're all hers. She's SO worried about

wearing what's in fashion.

Tina

[Guest guest]

maybe not a good plan for " alone " time though, eh? lol

Jacquie H

Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

> has outgrown showering with mom, thank God. The last thing I need is

someone else trying to get into my shower time <

i guess it's different with kailey cause she's a girl. it doesn't really

bother me if she wants to get in with me. is that weird? in fact, last night i

was just going in to take a quick one and she wanted to come with me, so both of

us were squeezed into the little shower stall, we were having fun with word play

and she was drinking water off of me. good times...

" Something important to remember...we'll always be who we are. " - Mr.

[Guest guest]

oh! oh! me too, me too! At the moment I am in love with that guy from the boxer

ads. I want him!!!!!!!!LOL

Jacquie H

Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

> > We've had to get after her more than once for ordering her sister

and brother about like slaves. ;o) <

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> well hey, we all like a slave now and then, don't we?

>

Actually I'd like two or three at the moment. ;o)

I still have Christmas presents to wrap, laundry to do and a pile of

dishes in the sink from baking cookies and brownies.

Make that 4 or 5...preferably tall, dark and handsome. ;o)

Tina

[Guest guest]

OH NO! Are you talking about the black guy with his wanker bouncin'

around? HEHE..he is a cutie! Wish I had that much energy.

> > > We've had to get after her more than once for ordering her

sister

> and brother about like slaves. ;o) <

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> > well hey, we all like a slave now and then, don't we?

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> Actually I'd like two or three at the moment. ;o)

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> I still have Christmas presents to wrap, laundry to do and a pile

of

> dishes in the sink from baking cookies and brownies.

>

> Make that 4 or 5...preferably tall, dark and handsome. ;o)

>

> Tina

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[Guest guest]

Oh yeah!!!!!!!

Jacquie H

Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

OH NO! Are you talking about the black guy with his wanker bouncin'

around? HEHE..he is a cutie! Wish I had that much energy.

> > > We've had to get after her more than once for ordering her

sister

> and brother about like slaves. ;o) <

> >

> > well hey, we all like a slave now and then, don't we?

> >

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> Actually I'd like two or three at the moment. ;o)

>

> I still have Christmas presents to wrap, laundry to do and a pile

of

> dishes in the sink from baking cookies and brownies.

>

> Make that 4 or 5...preferably tall, dark and handsome. ;o)

>

> Tina

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[Guest guest]

> oh! oh! me too, me too! At the moment I am in love with that guy

from the boxer ads. I want him!!!!!!!!LOL

>

LOL! I guess I'm going to have to watch more TV. I haven't seen him

yet.

Tina

[Guest guest]

Not if I get to him first....

;-)

drrrrrrrrooooooooooolllllllll....

Penny

Re: Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

oh! oh! me too, me too! At the moment I am in love with that guy from the

boxer ads. I want him!!!!!!!!LOL

Jacquie H

[Guest guest]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

" his wanker bouncin' around "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Great description..

He is SO hot.

Penny

Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

OH NO! Are you talking about the black guy with his wanker bouncin'

around? HEHE..he is a cutie! Wish I had that much energy.

[Guest guest]

oh!!!!! You gotta see him! He is such a cutie!!!!!!!!!

Jacquie H

Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

> oh! oh! me too, me too! At the moment I am in love with that guy

from the boxer ads. I want him!!!!!!!!LOL

>

LOL! I guess I'm going to have to watch more TV. I haven't seen him

yet.

Tina

[Guest guest]

lol....I dont like the ad with him and all those girls though. I want just

him!!!!!!!! lol And I get him! You go find someone else! Or maybe he has a

twin brother....hmmmmmmm

Jacquie H

Re: Re: Couple Time, Me time and More

oh! oh! me too, me too! At the moment I am in love with that guy from the

boxer ads. I want him!!!!!!!!LOL

Jacquie H

[Guest guest]

> HAHAHAHAHAHA

>

> " his wanker bouncin' around "

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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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> Great description..

>

> He is SO hot.

Now I KNOW I have to start watching TV.

Tina

[Guest guest]

YES YES YES!!!

My thoughts EXACTLY!

When I saw the one with the girls in it, I thought, " Geez, what a way to

ruin the commercial!! "

How 'bout if we share him?

;-)

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lol....I dont like the ad with him and all those girls though. I want just

him!!!!!!!! lol And I get him! You go find someone else! Or maybe he has

a twin brother....hmmmmmmm

Jacquie H