Re: PTSD, sexual/physical abuse and the connection to FMS - Sensitive Topic

[Guest guest]

i agree, in dr.teitelbaum's book, it says injury/trauma, chronic

stress as well as infections and other things can be triggers for

fibro. i am taking some of his supplements and they are helping, and

reading his book makes a whole lot of sense. he is an m.d. who has

fibro and cfids which caused him to drop out of medical school for a

year and he was homeless, his fibro and cfids were so bad. but he

ended up graduating from ohio state univeristy medical school (where

i was accepted and would have gone if my dad didn't break his promise

to pay for my college).

i have no financial interest in dr. teitelbaum, but i do think many

here would benefit by reading his book. he recommends d-ribose powder

for improved energy, too. it is helping me a little so far and i have

been taking it 2 days. i am not a doctor, so i cannot give any

medical advice, but it it just my opinion that his book has helped me

and it could help alot of people here, too. i don't think i will be

going to any of the fibro clinics he is the medical director for, but

hs book has alot of very valid information about our disease and how

to treat it with medications and supplements.

take care,

marg

>

> I have been doing some research at work and I printed out over...

god,

> 20+ documents on FMS. I have a listing of them somewhere that I

will

> eventually share.

>

> Point is...

>

> I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

> between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

> would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

> significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

> relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

> FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

[Guest guest]

have fms no hx of any abuse Jodi

alannakitty wrote: I have been doing some

research at work and I printed out over... god,

20+ documents on FMS. I have a listing of them somewhere that I will

eventually share.

Point is...

I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

somehow.

~

Jodi (JEM)

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[Guest guest]

Okay...guess I can speak up on this one....I had NO idea until last week how

physical/sexual abuse affects Fibro. I was

sexually/physically/mentally/emotionally abused from the age of 8 (or

earlier) until 23...and yes....I now realize that it DOES go hand in hand

for some...I happen to be one of the unlucky ones.... I also have MS and

Heart Disease...but I digress...I am in pain daily..and especially right now

..no pain meds at all....long story..but I'm beginning to understand why some

turn to alcohol and illegal drugs...

Just me...

Anita

-- Re: Re: PTSD, sexual/physical abuse and the connection to FMS

- Sensitive Topic

have fms no hx of any abuse Jodi

alannakitty wrote: I have been doing

some research at work and I printed out over... god,

20+ documents on FMS. I have a listing of them somewhere that I will

eventually share.

Point is...

I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

somehow.

~

Jodi (JEM)

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Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

[Guest guest]

I have been doing

some research at work and I printed out over... god,

> 20+ documents on FMS. I have a listing of them somewhere that I will

> eventually share.

>

> Point is...

>

> I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

> between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

> would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

> significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

> relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

> FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

>

> I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

> noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

> there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

> to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

>

> I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

> history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

> somehow.

>

> ~

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Jodi (JEM)

>

Well, as I believe I have posted in the past, I KNOW that I qualify

for the PTSD, hard not to after seeing my big brother killed in from

of our home 3 weeks before my second birthday! And he brought so

much joy and laughter while during his brief 7 years on this other --

people who are strangers to me often, once they learn he was my

brother ask a question --- many I couldn't answer until the past 5 or

6 years. Then, some time between the age of 8 and the summer I

started having periods, my grandparent's " oh, so good with babies! "

neighbor molested me sexually for at least one or more summers. Then

an abusive marriage, 6 years of which were spent living in

a " changing neighborhood, so I saw gang crimes, adults taking 2 X 4's

to hit each other over the head all over a woman and a pack of

cigarettes --- there was much more going on in that neighbor hood, it

was like living in a war zone during those years --- now at least one

IS THE neighborhood to shop, dining and live in. Oh, and let's also

add in the 2 miscarriages! Plus a sister who told me while I was in

the midst of the nasty divorce (not husband's fault --- his lawyer

left the firm and no one bothered to let his clients know and also,

Cook county, Illinois was in the process of converting to computers

and while doing so, discovered many prior divorces had NOT BEEN

recorded!!! We did finally get to sit in the judge's chambers as it

was more or less an easy divorce, we agreed on the money part ---

just wish I had had the forethought to change my name back to my

maiden name). And I also was at a university during the years all of

the riots were going on in the 1960's --- that school was the first

to call out the National Guard --- students laid down on the main

line of the Illinois Central Railroad (Chicago to New Orleans) and

blocked the tracks for six hours. Another year, they tear gased at

least one if not two high rise dorms and then closed the school for

the rest of the spring term.

I am sure I could come up with a few more, but that's enough for now!

[Guest guest]

Are these studies posted online, if so can you send the link?

I wont go into the horrors of my life, to much to list...But I will say I

was abducted when I was 14 and held captive for about 3-4 months..I am sure

you can imagine what happened, but I can assure you that however bad you

think it was, it was 100x worse. I still have flashbacks and it was 31 years

ago.

Karla in WA

-------Original Message-------

>

> Point is...

>

> I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

> between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

> would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

> significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

> relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

> FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

>

> I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

> noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

> there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

> to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

>

> I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

> history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

> somehow.

>

> ~

[Guest guest]

Studies show between 75% and 90% of FM patients have PTSD.

It makes sense that serotonin breaks alpha waves and that in itself

is what cause our systems to go into over drive, but dont confuse

long term or sustained PTSD as " worse " or better than anything

else, each of us has a limit and even if once that limit is thrown away

that can be enough to bring on long term damage, just think of a

car accident they are one off's yet they can do so much damage.

Bonnie

Re: Re: PTSD, sexual/physical abuse and the connection to FMS -

Sensitive Topic

Are these studies posted online, if so can you send the link?

I wont go into the horrors of my life, to much to list...But I will say I

was abducted when I was 14 and held captive for about 3-4 months..I am sure

you can imagine what happened, but I can assure you that however bad you

think it was, it was 100x worse. I still have flashbacks and it was 31 years

ago..

Karla in WA

-------Original Message-------

>

> Point is...

>

> I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

> between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

> would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

> significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

> relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

> FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

>

> I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

> noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

> there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

> to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

>

> I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

> history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

> somehow.

>

> ~

[Guest guest]

My stepfather molested me for many years and I was brutally raped and beaten

when I was 15 by an eighteen year old. a

Re: Re: PTSD, sexual/physical abuse and the connection to FMS -

Sensitive Topic

Are these studies posted online, if so can you send the link?

I wont go into the horrors of my life, to much to list...But I will say I

was abducted when I was 14 and held captive for about 3-4 months..I am sure

you can imagine what happened, but I can assure you that however bad you

think it was, it was 100x worse. I still have flashbacks and it was 31 years

ago.

Karla in WA

-------Original Message-------

>

> Point is...

>

> I was reading two different studies last night on the connection

> between FMS/chronic pain disorders and sexual/physical abuse (which

> would follow under PTSD). While the one study was not statistically

> significant, it did show that there was some sort of significance in

> relation to sexual/physical abuse and chronic pain conditions--esp.

> FMS. I was curious how many of us have that kind of history.

>

> I haven't been following closely b/c I've been VERY busy but I have

> noticed the topic being discussed and I thought I would put it out

> there that there is data on this. It has been researched. Something

> to think about and consider in ones overall treatment.

>

> I know of at least... two people personally that have FMS and have a

> history of sexual abuse. It isn't pretty but it does seem to relate

> somehow.

>

> ~

[Guest guest]

>

> I truly believe that somehow our bodies begin to fight back from all

the stress we have endured. I know fibro is a real disease with many

theories. I am sure that it has many causes which are chemical in

nature, but I also think that once we have suffered alot of emotional

or physical trauma the body begins to suffer with physical pain. ( I

believe that whatever chemistry takes place with FM is kicked in)

Kind of like it is saying " Hey, I have had enough... now I am in pain

and you can't fix it " .

> love and hugs to all,

> Debra V.

Okay, I want to weigh in on this one too....

I have been wondering if for all of the trauma, stress and abuse that

many fibromites have suffered, if somehow all that we have tried to

push back and not feel has caused our bodies to " speak louder " about

needing to be taken care of...and so for all we have tried to shut

out, we are now seeing it come out in pain that DEMANDS us to stop

what we are doing and take care of ourselves.

Just a thought...coming from a tired woman who has a sinus cold and is

feeling more pain tonight than usual..and needing to vent!

I really do enjoy reading what everyone has to say. Even though I

don't always have time to respond, I think it is helpful to read what

others are thinking and feeling. It sure makes more sense out of what

I'm dealing with to see others who are dealing with the same.

thanks to all

Vicki

northern MN