Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 I think alot of us here have struggled with the why. I had acute panc for 4 years before it became chronic. The first time they just thought I was a drinker, than they took out my gall bladder. It took awhile before they would even admit that they had no clue why. Best of Luck, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 re: my earlier message: oops I meant to say I downloaded it on "Amazon" (good price!) but it goes into your itunes playlist if you want it to (optional)-KateRemember this is a journey and we can't press a button and change it overnight, but what we can do first, is treat ourselves with kindness. Don't assume being kind to ourselves is easy, but it is the most important part. Here is a free audio interview with Geneen Roth I encourage you to listen to as your first step. You can also put it on itunes.http://howshereallydoesit.com/podcast/2010/04/geneen-roth/She believes "nothing is unworkable."If that resonates with you, consider her "Feeding the hungry heart" very inexpensive. I downloaded it on itunes for $14.It really helped me get my head around all this and stop fighting myself.Kate> >> >>> >> Hi Everyone,> >>> >>> >>> >> I alluded to this earlier in the week but I need to reach out to > >> everyone. I need all kinds of support at the moment.> >>> >>> >>> >> Being a 350lb man is tough. Everything about it is tough. My > >> knees hurt, I have no energy, the thought of moving a lot of the > >> time is just fundamentally unpleasant. I’m fully mobile and just > >> a few days ago give a 40lb child a half mile piggy back ride and t > >> rekked all over a Six Flags carrying that 40lb child â€" so I’m > >> not a cripple by any stretch. But at the same time my weight is a > >> conscious aspect of my life literally on a minute-by-minute basis.> >>> >>> >>> >> There’s no question in my mind that I’m a compulsive overeater. > >> In the past six months I’ve come to really understand this, starte > >> d to dig into all the pain that exists below my surface to cause i > >> t and have been working hard to heal that hurt while starting to l > >> earn how to fix my badly damaged relationship with food.> >>> >>> >>> >> But, I’m suffering through it at this point. I’m meeting with > >> my dietitian weekly and attending a support group and for an hour > >> or so after those meetings I feel great. But the remaining 150 or > >> so hours of the week I’m feeling further and further from where I > >> want to be. I feel like I’m overeating on a regular basis though > >> I’m not sure I am. I’m developing a really hostile > >> relationship with exercise that today almost lead me to cancel my > >> gym membership and just start walking.> >>> >>> >>> >> I don’t know what I need or want from those who will read this. B > >> ut I need something and I know how wonderful of a group this is so > >> I know I’m asking the right set of people.> >>> >>> >>> >> Jon> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Hi Jon,I am glad that you reached out. And sorry to hear that you are in so much emotional pain. Treating yourself with kindness and sympathy will not reduce your chances of losing weight. if anything, it will enhance them. likewise, remember that it took a very long time to get to where you are today; it will take quite a while to get to where you want to be. rather than focus on the destination, what if you focus on the journey? what is one thing that you can do for you TODAY that will enhance your quality of life? can you forget about the weight loss and focus on what would help you right now? i've been reading geneen roth's new book, and one message that i've gotten from it is that it's really not about your weight. your weight and eating habits reflect your emotional habits. so work on your emotional habits, ie trying to be present in the here and now and not using food as an escape, as a way to improve your emotional state TODAY. and watch the weight change as an incidental side effect. i hope this helps. please keep sharing with us.best,abby re: my earlier message: oops I meant to say I downloaded it on " Amazon " (good price!) but it goes into your itunes playlist if you want it to (optional)-Kate Remember this is a journey and we can't press a button and change it overnight, but what we can do first, is treat ourselves with kindness. Don't assume being kind to ourselves is easy, but it is the most important part. Here is a free audio interview with Geneen Roth I encourage you to listen to as your first step. You can also put it on itunes.http://howshereallydoesit.com/podcast/2010/04/geneen-roth/ She believes " nothing is unworkable. " If that resonates with you, consider her " Feeding the hungry heart " very inexpensive. I downloaded it on itunes for $14.It really helped me get my head around all this and stop fighting myself. Kate> >> >>> >> Hi Everyone,> >>> >>> >> > >> I alluded to this earlier in the week but I need to reach out to > >> everyone. I need all kinds of support at the moment.> >>> >>> >>> >> Being a 350lb man is tough. Everything about it is tough. My > >> knees hurt, I have no energy, the thought of moving a lot of the > >> time is just fundamentally unpleasant. I’m fully mobile and just > >> a few days ago give a 40lb child a half mile piggy back ride and t > >> rekked all over a Six Flags carrying that 40lb child †" so I’m > >> not a cripple by any stretch. But at the same time my weight is a > >> conscious aspect of my life literally on a minute-by-minute basis. > >>> >>> >>> >> There’s no question in my mind that I’m a compulsive overeater. > >> In the past six months I’ve come to really understand this, starte > >> d to dig into all the pain that exists below my surface to cause i > >> t and have been working hard to heal that hurt while starting to l > >> earn how to fix my badly damaged relationship with food. > >>> >>> >>> >> But, I’m suffering through it at this point. I’m meeting with > >> my dietitian weekly and attending a support group and for an hour > >> or so after those meetings I feel great. But the remaining 150 or > >> so hours of the week I’m feeling further and further from where I > >> want to be. I feel like I’m overeating on a regular basis though > >> I’m not sure I am. I’m developing a really hostile > >> relationship with exercise that today almost lead me to cancel my > >> gym membership and just start walking. > >>> >>> >>> >> I don’t know what I need or want from those who will read this. B > >> ut I need something and I know how wonderful of a group this is so > >> I know I’m asking the right set of people.> >>> >>> >>> >> Jon> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Hi, Jon, I'm with Abby on this--don't do exercise that you don't enjoy. Find something you do enjoy. I'm just walking, too, sometimes on my treadmill, more often (now that the weather's good) outside. I have to watch myself because I tend to overdo, and then use that as an excuse to stop exercising. So I make myself do less than I think I "should" because my "shoulds" are always punishing--which I'm good at yanking into practice any time, any day. At some point, you may also want to try to think of ANY way to make your stressful job more tolerable. I had a talk with my boss years ago that made a world of difference, but I also listen to books on tape on my commute, and have made it a practice of going out for lunch (especially if I "don't have the time") to destress midday. I used to drive from one fast-food place to another along my route home, all in an attempt to soothe myself. Once I started treating myself a little better, these sojourns stopped. I hope this helps. Sounds like your support group is helping--any way you can get more support also from this group? Start an online chat with some members? Laurie Hi Jon, I am glad that you reached out. And sorry to hear that you are in so much emotional pain. Treating yourself with kindness and sympathy will not reduce your chances of losing weight. if anything, it will enhance them. likewise, remember that it took a very long time to get to where you are today; it will take quite a while to get to where you want to be. rather than focus on the destination, what if you focus on the journey? what is one thing that you can do for you TODAY that will enhance your quality of life? can you forget about the weight loss and focus on what would help you right now? i've been reading geneen roth's new book, and one message that i've gotten from it is that it's really not about your weight. your weight and eating habits reflect your emotional habits. so work on your emotional habits, ie trying to be present in the here and now and not using food as an escape, as a way to improve your emotional state TODAY. and watch the weight change as an incidental side effect. i hope this helps. please keep sharing with us. best, abby On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:57 AM, <answers.kategmail> wrote: re: my earlier message: oops I meant to say I downloaded it on "Amazon" (good price!) but it goes into your itunes playlist if you want it to (optional)-Kate Remember this is a journey and we can't press a button and change it overnight, but what we can do first, is treat ourselves with kindness. Don't assume being kind to ourselves is easy, but it is the most important part. Here is a free audio interview with Geneen Roth I encourage you to listen to as your first step. You can also put it on itunes.http://howshereallydoesit.com/podcast/2010/04/geneen-roth/ She believes "nothing is unworkable." If that resonates with you, consider her "Feeding the hungry heart" very inexpensive. I downloaded it on itunes for $14. It really helped me get my head around all this and stop fighting myself. Kate > > > >> > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> I alluded to this earlier in the week but I need to reach out to > >> everyone. I need all kinds of support at the moment. > >> > >> > >> > >> Being a 350lb man is tough. Everything about it is tough. My > >> knees hurt, I have no energy, the thought of moving a lot of the > >> time is just fundamentally unpleasant. I’m fully mobile and just > >> a few days ago give a 40lb child a half mile piggy back ride and t > >> rekked all over a Six Flags carrying that 40lb child â€" so I’m > >> not a cripple by any stretch. But at the same time my weight is a > >> conscious aspect of my life literally on a minute-by-minute basis. > >> > >> > >> > >> There’s no question in my mind that I’m a compulsive overeater. > >> In the past six months I’ve come to really understand this, starte > >> d to dig into all the pain that exists below my surface to cause i > >> t and have been working hard to heal that hurt while starting to l > >> earn how to fix my badly damaged relationship with food. > >> > >> > >> > >> But, I’m suffering through it at this point. I’m meeting with > >> my dietitian weekly and attending a support group and for an hour > >> or so after those meetings I feel great. But the remaining 150 or > >> so hours of the week I’m feeling further and further from where I > >> want to be. I feel like I’m overeating on a regular basis though > >> I’m not sure I am. I’m developing a really hostile > >> relationship with exercise that today almost lead me to cancel my > >> gym membership and just start walking. > >> > >> > >> > >> I don’t know what I need or want from those who will read this. B > >> ut I need something and I know how wonderful of a group this is so > >> I know I’m asking the right set of people. > >> > >> > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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