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> I do have a follow up question, Rita and others; I do reside in

Vermont yet I

> am still forced to attend these little charades three times a week by

my

> parole/probation officer. Where can I get information about whatever

legal

> precedent thier might be regarding this ?

>

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Hi Steve --

the following is information that can be verified on any legal

website:

FACT SHEET

United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit

ADDRESS:

United States Courthouse 500 Pearl St.

New York, NY 10007

CHIEF JUDGE:

The Honorable Jon O. Newman

CLERK:

Lange III

JURISDICTION:

Connecticut, New York, Vermont

Please note that Vermont is indeed part of the Second Circuit.

Now, several precedent-setting cases against forced 12-step involvement

have been decided here in the 2nd Circuit -- v. Coughlin was

one; more recently, after many appeals on the part of Orange County

(N.Y.), the decision in Warner v. Orange County Probation Dep't. went

all the way to the state Supreme Court, which declined to hear the case,

leaving the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals decision intact. Here's a link

to the final decision in that case:

http://members.tripod.com/~rita66/warner.htm

You have a CAN'T-LOSE case if you challenge mandated AA in the

state of Vermont (2nd Circuit) -- so if you want to go that route and

fight forced AA by defending your country's Constitution, please call

your local Bar Association, and ask for a referral to an attorney who

has experience with First Amendment, particularly Establishment Clause,

cases.

p.s. My lawsuit referenced the and Warner cases -- and when my

agency's attorneys reviewed this literature, they RUSHED to settle

out-of-court!

Good Luck,

Rita

> Also, as I have never been an alcoholic, these meetrings have no efect

on me

> other than compromising my time to do other things like play with this

damned

> old computer.

I hear ya!

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