Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 Oh good, I'm not the freak I thought I was!! I think those things are some form of seb derm, or at least, a result of our overactive sebacious glands. Yeah, they are strange--they wash away in the shower, but they're always back by the end of the day. Had them for years. And it does mess up the texture of your skin, esp. if you want to apply some light make-up like a powder--they stand out even more! Photoderm's really obliterated them, thankfully, as well as my discontinuing a moisturizer that had a bunch of alcohol in it. My skin's less " combination " (flakey and oily in the same spots) now. I read somewhere that prolonged use of these type of moisturizers can induce seb derm. I'm going to try and control my anxiety levels on my own for now, b/c I really feel that my hyperactive psyche induces a lot of my nervous responses. Yoga used to help me, and I'm thinking about going back to it. But if I find that doesn't work, I'm certainly glad to know there is a pharmaceutical alternative to get me over the humps. Thanks! Death to the Hard-Little-White-Things!! --- and Artist wrote: > : > > HEY! I get those filled pores with little hard > balls of sebum, too! > They have improved with photoderm. I notice that > nizoral cream gets rid > of them as well. I think you and I are alike > because, like you, I also > get flares from pressure situations-fligt or fight. > My savior has been > atenolol, a beta blocker. It prevents all those > pressure situation > flares. Maybe it will help you, too? Those hard > dried sebum clogging > balls are so wierd, arent they? I can scrape them > off with my > fingernail usually, but they leave an open spot > sometimes. What the > heck is this from? They usually appear after a > flare. Must be excess > sebum drying up inside the pores. They make my face > look grainy > sometimes. But, I dont get that much anymore thanks > to atenolol and > photoderm! Alcohol actually prevents flares when I > a little buzzed > because it suppresses the nervous system and my main > trigger is from > emotional things. I can get drunk and be pale, > pale, pale. But, the > dehydration the next day doesnt help. > > patty > > Loomis wrote: > > > > Hi Tina-- > > > > Well, I've had three treatments so far, and the > > flushing is down significantly, I'd say 70-80%. I > > still have some problems w/really warm rooms and > > anxiety-inducing situations (like speaking in > front of > > groups, though I think that's a matter of learning > how > > to relax and control my fight-or-flight response), > and > > I haven't tried alcohol since I started so I don't > > know what the effect is there. My redness was mild > to > > begin with, but very uneven and blotchy. That's > been > > reduced by about 2/3, I'd say, though the apples > of my > > cheeks are still a pale pink. I only had a couple > very > > small thread veins visible at close range on the > sides > > of my nose before treatment, nothing too > extensive, > > and a small bright red dot on one cheek that I > assume > > was a broken vessel. Those vanished after one > > treatment. No noticeable difference in pore size, > > though I have far fewer bumps than before and none > of > > those filled pores I used to get (with these > little > > hard balls of sebum sitting in the pore, not a > > whitehead, just like a grain of sand or salt > filling > > up a divet that I could wipe off with my hand). Of > > course, I am taking minocycline, too, and have > paired > > down my use of moisturizers and make-ups, but I've > > been able to do the latter b/c I have less to hide > > now. > > > > If you go to the highlights page for this support > > group, you'll find a bunch of messages from Dr. > Nase > > under " treatments " re: photoderm and it benefits. > I > > think it's definitely worth it for those of us who > > have the time, $$, and resources available. It > > definitely helps knock down the major symptoms of > the > > disease (and possibly one causal factor) and > allows > > you to see increased benefit from other modes of > > managing rosacea, like good skin care, good diet, > > vitamins and supplements, etc. It's not cheap and > will > > require a lot of research on your part to find a > > provider and multiple visits to a clinic over a > 6-8 mo > > period. My skin's also been even more sensitive > than > > before, but I've figured out how to manage that. > The > > beneficial effects should last 1-2 years post-tx, > but > > if you start taking good care of your skin and the > > rest of yourself in the meantime, you should be > able > > to extend these benefits. Touch-ups are said to be > > necessary after a while but minor. > > > > Good luck to you... > > > > > > > > --- Liz081168@... wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > > > What have the results of the Photoderm > treatments > > > been for those of you who > > > have had them? Does the flushing end or lessen? > Do > > > the permanent redness & > > > red veins go away? If yes, for how long? Does > the > > > treatment get rid of the > > > bumps? Does it make pores smaller & /or the skin > > > smoother? > > > > > > Thanks much for any help! > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > > > -- > > > > > > /ChatPage?listName=rosacea-support & m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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