Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Hi Steve; I was used to meetings where one could say mostly what they pleased. This same group had rules of no profanity, no smoking and no coffee or other stuff during the meeting. The girlfriend I was with said " Beam me up scotty " and we left. As to your legal problem. I may well have the same problem soon. In May 2000, I got a DWI and operating without the consent of the owner(My wife's car and she had a no contact order in effect at the time) The operating without consent should't be a problem, but the ..014 breath test probably will be. Anyway if I cop to the DWI, it will likely mean outpatient treatment and here that means AA. I've been through treatment around 40 times or thereabouts so as you can well imagine, I can fake it. I don't much like the " Yes Master " attitude that I must display a couple of hours a week, but I can do it. However, if I can get some reasonable jail time, I'll take that as an alternative. (Seriously) Around here I could likely do the time on weekends and put it off till after the Super Bowl(Big time pro football fan) My wife and I are getting along again and she would look after Lover Boy for me. When I was in AA years ago, I always signed court slips, even if the person was under the influence. After all it's just some shnook who wants to stay out of jail. The threat of lock up is more compelling than the event. After all the horror stories one hears, the event is a let down. Doing time is fighting boredom more than anything else. You of course might consider suit under 42 USC 1983, which is the civil rights act of 1964. The premise being that AA is a religion and the court cannot order a man to make a religous conversion. Be aware that this might leave the court with discretion enough to put you in a mental institution. Of course if you are alcohol and drug free that would be a non-starter. The length of your probation enters into it also. The Federal 1983 suit I began in 1979, was settled out of court in 1983(I won). That one was over denial of medical treatment by an unqualified person. Actually a guard captain who wouldn't allow the doctor to keep me in the University of Iowa hospital because they were short of guards. He far exceeded his authority and he and I clashed everytime we met. Well, I went far afield there. What I meant was your probation would likely be long past by the time you got a resolution from the court. However, if you won, it would eventually end forced AA emanating from the court system. I may test the water myself if my health stays reasonable. Don't let 'em wear you down. Best of the season to you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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