Re: effect of photoderm on pale rosacea?

[Guest guest]

I'm no expert on this, but I am planning to undergo a photoderm treatment

soon. I was planning to bring Niacin along with me. Niacin induces a flush,

making those red areas show up better. Perhaps that would help?

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I am curious to know the effect of having PhotoDerm done on very pale

rosacea. For those of you who are having the treatments and whose skin is

becoming paler with each treatment, is it getting harder to get results like

the first time, due to the greater lack of distinction between your normal

skin colour and the rosacea affected parts? Perhaps that is why generally

PhotoDerm does not eliminate all of the redness. As some of you may already

know, I had a few test patches but none of them reduced the redness (I did

not even get any blisters or bruising). One assumption is that my skin was

too pale to begin with. If this was indeed the case, does increasing the

power help with this?

I am asking because I am wondering whether to go ahead with a session, given

that my skin appears only pale pink.

Regards,

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[Guest guest]

,

Before my treatment yesterday, I took a niacin tablet--100 mg-- to help induce a

bit of a flush...Ask your photoderm operator, if you have questions about it, to

advise you. I had asked Barb about this last month, and she wholeheartedly said

yes to my niacin idea.

Good luck to you,

Carol

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> I'm no expert on this, but I am planning to undergo a photoderm treatment

> soon. I was planning to bring Niacin along with me. Niacin induces a flush,

> making those red areas show up better. Perhaps that would help?

>

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Hi ,

Well, I would hope the intake of niacin would accentuate the little capillaries,

but who knows? I decided to try it before my last photoderm, and I believed it

helped, but maybe the flush from niacin doesn't last very long after all.

Best regards

Carol

F wrote:

> , Carol,

>

> I took 300mg of niacin but it did not help that much. It sort of made my

> whole face go just a bit redder, it didn't really highlight the rosacea. I

> don't seem to have any oral triggers. I know that very cold weather seems to

> be the worst thing for me, but we don't get that where I live.

>

>

>

> >

> >,

> >Before my treatment yesterday, I took a niacin tablet--100 mg-- to help

> >induce a

> >bit of a flush...Ask your photoderm operator, if you have questions about

> >it, to

> >advise you. I had asked Barb about this last month, and she wholeheartedly

> >said

> >yes to my niacin idea.

> >Good luck to you,

> >Carol

> >

> >Rez@... wrote:

> >

> > > I'm no expert on this, but I am planning to undergo a photoderm

> >treatment

> > > soon. I was planning to bring Niacin along with me. Niacin induces a

> >flush,

> > > making those red areas show up better. Perhaps that would help?

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Wouldn't it not really matter that much, as long as you told the technician

where the redness normally occurs? In my case, even if there was no

redness, I know I could easily trace out where it occurs. But then maybe

there's some aspect to it that I'm not taking into account. It would just

seem like such a sacrilege to purposefully make the redness worse. And then

there's the nightmarish prospect of leaving the house with full-blown

redness, and nothing on to hide it!

At 09:02 PM 7/27/83 -0800, you wrote:

>,

>Before my treatment yesterday, I took a niacin tablet--100 mg-- to help

>induce a

>bit of a flush...Ask your photoderm operator, if you have questions about

>it, to

>advise you. I had asked Barb about this last month, and she

>wholeheartedly said

>yes to my niacin idea.

>Good luck to you,

>Carol

>

>Rez@... wrote:

>

> > I'm no expert on this, but I am planning to undergo a photoderm treatment

> > soon. I was planning to bring Niacin along with me. Niacin induces a

> flush,

> > making those red areas show up better. Perhaps that would help?

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Steve!

With photoderm, after any superficial vessels and redness have been treated

during the initial sessions, it's usually recommended that you induce a full

flush before your subsequent treatments. Some doctors are using topical

niacin or vasodilating creams, or you can do it yourself. This dilates the

deeper vessels and allows them to be targeted effectively. Right before my

photoderm treatments is the one time when I don't mind getting as flushed as

I can, because I know it's actually going to be beneficial!

Jen

Re: effect of photoderm on pale rosacea?

>Wouldn't it not really matter that much, as long as you told the technician

>where the redness normally occurs? In my case, even if there was no

>redness, I know I could easily trace out where it occurs. But then maybe

>there's some aspect to it that I'm not taking into account. It would just

>seem like such a sacrilege to purposefully make the redness worse. And then

>there's the nightmarish prospect of leaving the house with full-blown

>redness, and nothing on to hide it!

>

>At 09:02 PM 7/27/83 -0800, you wrote:

>>,

>>Before my treatment yesterday, I took a niacin tablet--100 mg-- to help

>>induce a

>>bit of a flush...Ask your photoderm operator, if you have questions about

>>it, to

>>advise you. I had asked Barb about this last month, and she

>>wholeheartedly said

>>yes to my niacin idea.

>>Good luck to you,

>>Carol

[Guest guest]

Steve,

Jen is correct; this is a standard and beneficial technique to maximize the

effects of PhotDerm. The light penetrates your skin and destroys large

dilated vessels. So as much as we all despise flushing, in this case it is

justified. Dr. Nase addressed this in his now- famous message #2278, the

link to which is below.

This message is probably the best single source of information and valuable

advice concerning PhotoDerm that I have ever seen.

/group/rosacea-support/2278.html?

Jim

Re: effect of photoderm on pale rosacea?

>

>

> >Wouldn't it not really matter that much, as long as you told the

technician

> >where the redness normally occurs? In my case, even if there was no

> >redness, I know I could easily trace out where it occurs. But then maybe

> >there's some aspect to it that I'm not taking into account. It would just

> >seem like such a sacrilege to purposefully make the redness worse. And

then

> >there's the nightmarish prospect of leaving the house with full-blown

> >redness, and nothing on to hide it!

> >

> >At 09:02 PM 7/27/83 -0800, you wrote:

> >>,

> >>Before my treatment yesterday, I took a niacin tablet--100 mg-- to help

> >>induce a

> >>bit of a flush...Ask your photoderm operator, if you have questions

about

> >>it, to

> >>advise you. I had asked Barb about this last month, and she

> >>wholeheartedly said

> >>yes to my niacin idea.

> >>Good luck to you,

> >>Carol

>

>

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The photoderm machine seeks out redness in the skin. If the redness isn't

dark enough (as it is during a flush), the machine won't be able to " find "

the leaky vessels that are causing the dark flushing.

Therefore, some doctors prefer that you induce a flush, so you get the best

results from the machine. It is an expensive procedure, which insurance

usually does not cover.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jen, Jim, and ! How much does a session usually cost? Is there

any danger of photo aging resulting from treatments? And does it do

anything for the rosacea lesions?

At 03:29 PM 3/26/00 -0500, you wrote:

>The photoderm machine seeks out redness in the skin. If the redness isn't

>dark enough (as it is during a flush), the machine won't be able to " find "

>the leaky vessels that are causing the dark flushing.

>

>Therefore, some doctors prefer that you induce a flush, so you get the best

>results from the machine. It is an expensive procedure, which insurance

>usually does not cover.

>

>

[Guest guest]

In regards to the photoderm and acne lesions, I do believe it would lighten

the red marks leftover from previous bumps because those marks are

capilleries that have been stretched and still haven't gone down yet, so

basically they would be destroyed and new ones would come into place.

However as for the crater type scaring from acne, I think like you said the

only option for that would be resurfacing.

Re: effect of photoderm on pale rosacea?

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>

> > Thanks Jen, Jim, and ! How much does a session usually cost? Is

> there

> > any danger of photo aging resulting from treatments? And does it do

> > anything for the rosacea lesions?

> >

> > At 03:29 PM 3/26/00 -0500, you wrote:

> > >The photoderm machine seeks out redness in the skin. If the redness

> isn't

> > >dark enough (as it is during a flush), the machine won't be able to

> " find "

> > >the leaky vessels that are causing the dark flushing.

> > >

> > >Therefore, some doctors prefer that you induce a flush, so you get the

> best

> > >results from the machine. It is an expensive procedure, which

insurance

> > >usually does not cover.

> > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

<<How much does a session usually cost?>>

This depends mostly on the extent of the tissue area being treated. The

doctor's expertise and location are also a factor. I believe the average is

about $500/session. I am paying a little more since my treatment area

includes front and back of neck, front and back of ears, and entire facial

area. I am receiving nearly 500 bursts per session, which takes close to two

hours, even using an EpiLight which is much faster than PhotoDerm: 3-second

pause vs approx 10-second for PhotoDerm..

<< Is there any danger of photo aging resulting from treatments?>>

Actually the opposite appears to be the case. PhotoDerm reverses sun damage

and lightens/tightens the skin, based on photos I have seen.

<<And does it do anything for the rosacea lesions?>>

If you are referring to scar tissue from acne/bumps, I don't think so.

However there are other options for this, including laser procedures.

Jim

Re: effect of photoderm on pale rosacea?

> Thanks Jen, Jim, and ! How much does a session usually cost? Is

there

> any danger of photo aging resulting from treatments? And does it do

> anything for the rosacea lesions?

>

> At 03:29 PM 3/26/00 -0500, you wrote:

> >The photoderm machine seeks out redness in the skin. If the redness

isn't

> >dark enough (as it is during a flush), the machine won't be able to

" find "

> >the leaky vessels that are causing the dark flushing.

> >

> >Therefore, some doctors prefer that you induce a flush, so you get the

best

> >results from the machine. It is an expensive procedure, which insurance

> >usually does not cover.

> >

> >

>

>

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