Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Thank you Beth. I'll tell about it now and then going to disappear for a few hours. (Thought about writing this is Aussie but too much effort for a tired man). I got up early Monday morning and headed off on the great adventure. It was already in the 70's here and headed to the 80's. I headed north and drove through Tulsa, OK and headed on up to St. Louis. I was doing well, so decided to drive on past St. Louis to avoid the rush hour traffic the next morning. I drove about 2/3 of the trip on Monday so as to make Tuesday easier. It was all uneventful, although I still have to research what the crazy letters they add to the Missouri road signs mean. Also, didn't know there were places with 75 mph speed limits. Monday night, I arrived tired in Litchfield, Missouri and pulled up to a Holiday Inn Express. Well, all they had left were rooms with large Jacuzzi's so I suffered and took one. It felt so good to soak after the day of driving. Also, I found there working at the desk the most beautiful, inside and outside, girl. She was so helpful getting all my stuff in and refused a tip. Turns out I got the same treatment when checking out and had to update my compliments card. Also turns out that the two girls had been friends for 13 years, the second the Godmother of the first one's son. Yes the first looked 19-20 but had a six year old son and was really 26. Now, I mention all this because consistently I find people so willing to help. Asking for any form of help has been such a new experience for me but when you see those who do it so willingly and lovingly then it reinforces the ability to ask. Now, Monday night, I did find out a few oxygen issues. I had a liquid reservoir with me, a Companion1000 portable and a concentrator. The plan was to use the concentrator in the hotel rooms and the reservoir for refilling the portable only. Unfortunately, my oxygen supplier isn't national and I will probably have to change for that reason. However, I could have still gotten more liquid along the way if required. Well, I hooked up the concentrator and the cannula and oh what an odor. Then I disconnected from it and still the odor. It made the room smell like cigarette smoke so off it went. I quickly moved to the reservoir and went that route. I also checked one other thing. I had seen a need to turn my Companion which I'd just gotten delivered for the trip higher than normal (was suppose to get Marathon but one brought was broken and Companion was probably better for long days anyway). So, I took my liter meter and a 25 foot tube (of course a bit unfair since portable only works with shorter ones) and measured and found out my suspicions were right. It wasn't me requiring more, it was the equipment delivering less. So, from then on when I had to turn it up higher than normal I realized it was just the machine. My best guess is 4 lpm was really about 2.5 and 6 lpm was around 4 or so. So, Tuesday, on the road again and arrived in Chicago mid afternoon. I stayed south of Chicago in Tinley Park. It was still not a bad drive to the hospital and at 30-40% of the cost. A whole convention area of nice hotels all under $100. I checked in, turned on TV and promptly fell asleep so soundly I didn't even wake to a phone call. I woke around 6:30 or so, returned the call and then decided to eat lazy and headed to Popeye's. I got rested and well relaxed for Wednesday. Wednesday I got up quite early and arrived at the hospital (University of Chicago) over an hour early, which turned out to be great. First stop was for CT and they proceeded early. Was a CT with lots of inspiration and expiration and also doing it face down after face up. I'd never had one face down before. Later the doctor did express very strong feelings that no CT outside a hospital was up to the standards of a hospital. From CT, I went for my Echocardiogram. Pretty standard fare. Finished it and went to find the ILD coordinator who said to find her first break I had. So, found her and she saw I was ahead of schedule and arranged for me to go on and have blood work then instead of later. Blood work was interesting on more than one count. First, they took over 20 tubes of blood. Lots of small ones but still the nurse said about half a unit in total. Second, two interesting things that I consented to. First, to allow the IPF group to keep some blood for their examination and comparison. All the 13 Centers of Excellence are collecting any they can so they can compare data and build a large database of information they could ultimately provide some clues. Also, I consented to some for the University of Chicago Medical Center. They are now attempting to collect some from every patient so when later they are talking about diseases, they can go back to patients who had one and pull the blood and remove all information tying it to the patient but provide it for use by the researcher of the condition. From blood went to PFT's. They did complete battery and were able to get a good set. Now, fortunately I've learned from here that PFT's can vary by conditions, technician, equipment, software and many other unknown reasons. So, I know the comparisons may be misleading and its more a matter of long term trends. That said, my FVC was 36% which makes sense of all but my most recent one before. My FEV1 was 46% and that also makes sense. That tells me too that I think on my most recent PFT before I just didn't do well at the test. One other thing. I did, this time, request a different mouthpiece and got one that was soft and I took inside my mouth. Much easier than the hard one that is too big for my mouth. Total Lung Capacity showed 48%. Everything else was between 29% (Expired Reserve Volume) and 51% except Residual Volume which is 66% and has always been higher than the others. DLCO was 42% versus previous 38% so for practical purposes about the same. These were the most thorough PFT's I'd had done as they did repeat each one enough to be sure the readings were all good and so there were no wild inconsistent numbers. Now, the six minute walk they did made no sense to me. They did it only with oxygen and at the rate I thought I would need to complete it. Also, I was using my portable which we knew didn't give what it registered. Oh well. I turned it up to 6 lpm (somewhere around 4-4.5 I guess in reality but don't know) and off I went. But I walked away. The tech didn't even check me during the course of the walk, just at beginning and end. But, I checked myself and made sure I didn't drop too far. I bottomed out at 89% and ended at 91%. From there finally back to see the doctor. I saw Dr. Strek. I was very impressed from the start. First thing was that she had actually been through my thick file before I arrived and prepared a list of questions and things to cover. She did state that now she would go back through it with the new information and with my answers. Questioning was pretty routine-yes, I can check almost every possible cause except for smoking, but there I have huge volumes of second hand smoke. She gave only very preliminary thoughts as she will need the rest of the test results plus consultation with her pathologist before giving more. She pointed out one thing very interesting to me. This is that by having her pathologist review the biopsy slides she would be talking with him and questioning and discussing back and forth. Think about this. My biopsy was reviewed by a pathologist at the hospital and at Mayo Clinic but in neither case was there ever any communication between the pulmonologist and the pathologist. In fact, the results were simply emailed or faxed to the surgeon and the pulmonologist. Nothing will be known until after the pathologists review but I think at least initially she is less sure of the form of PF from what she saw than my two other pulmonologists have been. There were a couple of items leading to that. First, she didn't see on the CT the honeycombing she would have expected with UIP/IPF. Second the Mayo Clinic report although concluding that was what I had, did also point out a couple of things that were atypical of UIP/IPF. The report did point out extensive microscopic honeycombing and other things that would say UIP, but also read as follows: " In a few areas more chronic inflammation is present in the parenchyma than typically seen in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, and in a few areas increased alveolar wall fibrosis is seen, analogous to fibrotic nonspecific interstitial pneumonia. Nevertheless, the overriding pattern here is ususal interstitial pneumonia. " So, I'm quite interested in what her pathologist says and their communication. It certainly is possible that I have multiple forms of PF. She did indicate, although she'll know more from the blood work, that she saw nothing to indicate any connective tissue disorder. As she is their PF expert in autoimmune disorders I'm particularly interested in seeing if she dismisses them completely as others have done. The early indication is that she'll confirm what has been said in this regard. Everyone kept wanting to know if I needed my parking ticked validated and so I assumed maybe this meant free or something. I found out upon leaving it means you get a whopping $2 off your parking so only pay $21 instead of $23 or something like that. I guess every $2 counts but validation procedures for a 10% parking discount just isn't such a great deal. I then drove to the headquarters of the Pulmonary Fibrosis Foundation where hard at work I found Leanne. It was so wonderful meeting her and that first hug especially. She then gave me a bag. Someone scilly had recommended smooches and strawberries. I got the most incredible huge chocolate chip cookie and nice fresh very tasty strawberries. They were sooooooooooo good. Leanne and I then went to Shula's Steak House for dinner. There is still no better steak anywhere. I had such a great time with her and the food and service was great. I hated having to return her to her car and say goodnight. Then back to my hotel I headed. Thursday I woke to forecasts of storms and maybe even snow. I headed toward home, deciding to come back a different and longer route through Kansas City instead of St. Louis. It was horrible weather with storms and wind. I drove to Des Moines and then headed south toward Kansas City. The first glimmer of sunshine I saw was a 5:15 pm in Southern Iowa. I heard on the radio as I was about an hour south of Des Moines of the tornados spotted and the tornado warning so was just ahead of it, thankfully. Little did I know the awful weather closer to home. Tulsa, for instance, had floods closing schools. The DFW had tornados including one that knocked windows out of a major Fort Worth building closing three blocks downtown. Well, as driving was better starting at 5:15 pm than it had been all day I drove on to Kansas City. When I checked in there around 8 or so it was quite nice actually. Now, I don't know who watches American Idol, but is a huge Cook fan and his hometown is Blue Springs, Mo, which is a suburb of Kansas City, so when I let her know that I was close she went wild and started finding out things for me to check out for her. Well, when I got up Friday, Kansas City was now very cold, torrential downpours, and wind with possible snow on the way. Regardless, I headed for Blue Springs. I got photos of his high school and the baseball field where he played ball. I found her two tshirts for the Blue Springs South Jaguars. I went to downtown Blue Springs and saw the posters in the windows and just happened that the first ones I saw were at the Chamber of Commerce. The lady there gave me one which I also brought back to her. I now headed back through Kansas City and the rain had let up a little. I headed south to Wichita. The winds and cold picked up and as I reached Wichita they were predicting worse. Unfortunately, I did have to get gas along the way and nearly froze to death and had to stop and use restrooms. But, I said, get me where its warm and headed south toward Oklahoma City. Once there I decided I was close enough to drive on home, but I did see enough to say I might take a short trip back to Oklahoma City sometime. I made it here last night and took her loot and home I came. Now, here I am, way behind and not planning to catch up on it all today but I have missed you all. I did see that covered for me by tossing in if BWBB was here, he would tell you.....lol. Thanks SGIO. This trip was mainly to get to the University of Chicago and I'm very glad I did that. I think if anyone can getting to one of the 13 Centers of Excellence is worth it. Regardless of how good your doctors are, these centers do have additional information. I may get my diagnosis confirmed precisely or may find out I have additional forms or whatever, but I'll be glad I had the additional look there. The clinical trial of Revatio is one I may or may not qualify for, but if I decide to do it, we agreed that doing it at Tulane would be just as good since the standards for evaluating and testing were the same across all trial sites. That would be closer. I didn't see a lot on my trip but was surprised by the amount of open areas. I'm very use to congestion and one town running into another. Miles of farmland were something I hadn't seen for a while. I at least touched Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Iowa and Kansas. I probably would have stayed another day in Kansas City or somewhere had the weather been different. I confirmed a couple of things in my mind. First, traveling by auto with oxygen (while at relatively low levels of use) is no problem. Just always be sure you have a backup plan. Second, I'm probably going to have to switch to a national supplier with the traveling I plan, which probably means Lincare. Third, I'm glad I went to the University of Chicago. Fourth, I'm glad I got the van as it is a good travel vehicle. Fifth, and I know others have at times been treated rudely, but I learned again how helpful people are and want to be. I found out in Litchfield that 's grandfather had been on oxygen some, so I think I was a chance for her to honor him in a way. Sixth, if you can possibly meet anyone else on the forum, do so. It's so incredible. There are others i wish I could have met on the way but time and weather didn't let work out. I'm ready for west Texas, San and then my major trip to NC. Hopefully, Disneyworld later in the year. I drove too many miles in too short a time this trip and in the future hope to limit daily drives to around 300 miles and days between any longer drives. I covered over 2,000 miles on this trip, the longest road trip of my adult life. But, I enjoyed it and feel fine now that I'm back home. It is so nice to be back here to share things with all my friends on the forum. > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > Beth > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have been > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > tell me what is going on here? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Bruce...thanks for the travel-log. Interesting! Glad there were no situations to cope with. will be disappointed that was voted off AI. I was too. Glad you're home safely......... Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Newbie Here....how does this forum work?>> I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might havebeen> here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> tell me what is going on here?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Welcome Home Bruce! I'm glad you Enjoyed the trip and soon you'll have answers. I missed you! ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:12 pm Subject: Re: Trip Thank you Beth. I'll tell about it now and then going to disappear for a few hours. (Thought about writing this is Aussie but too much effort for a tired man). I got up early Monday morning and headed off on the great adventure. It was already in the 70's here and headed to the 80's. I headed north and drove through Tulsa, OK and headed on up to St. Louis. I was doing well, so decided to drive on past St. Louis to avoid the rush hour traffic the next morning. I drove about 2/3 of the trip on Monday so as to make Tuesday easier. It was all uneventful, although I still have to research what the crazy letters they add to the Missouri road signs mean. Also, didn't know there were places with 75 mph speed limits. Monday night, I arrived tired in Litchfield, Missouri and pulled up to a Holiday Inn Express. Well, all they had left were rooms with large Jacuzzi's so I suffered and took one. It felt so good to soak after the day of driving. Also, I found there working at the desk the most beautiful, inside and outside, girl. She was so helpful getting all my stuff in and refused a tip. Turns out I got the same treatment when checking out and had to update my compliments card. Also turns out that the two girls had been friends for 13 years, the second the Godmother of the first one's son. Yes the first looked 19-20 but had a six year old son and was really 26. Now, I mention all this because consistently I find people so willing to help. Asking for any form of help has been such a new experience for me but when you see those who do it so willingly and lovingly then it reinforces the ability to ask. Now, Monday night, I did find out a few oxygen issues. I had a liquid reservoir with me, a Companion1000 portable and a concentrator. The plan was to use the concentrator in the hotel rooms and the reservoir for refilling the portable only. Unfortunately, my oxygen supplier isn't national and I will probably have to change for that reason. However, I could have still gotten more liquid along the way if required. Well, I hooked up the concentrator and the cannula and oh what an odor. Then I disconnected from it and still the odor. It made the room smell like cigarette smoke so off it went. I quickly moved to the reservoir and went that route. I also checked one other thing. I had seen a need to turn my Companion which I'd just gotten delivered for the trip higher than normal (was suppose to get Marathon but one brought was broken and Companion was probably better for long days anyway). So, I took my liter meter and a 25 foot tube (of course a bit unfair since portable only works with shorter ones) and measured and found out my suspicions were right. It wasn't me requiring more, it was the equipment delivering less. So, from then on when I had to turn it up higher than normal I realized it was just the machine. My best guess is 4 lpm was really about 2.5 and 6 lpm was around 4 or so. So, Tuesday, on the road again and arrived in Chicago mid afternoon. I stayed south of Chicago in Tinley Park. It was still not a bad drive to the hospital and at 30-40% of the cost. A whole convention area of nice hotels all under $100. I checked in, turned on TV and promptly fell asleep so soundly I didn't even wake to a phone call. I woke around 6:30 or so, returned the call and then decided to eat lazy and headed to Popeye's. I got rested and well relaxed for Wednesday. Wednesday I got up quite early and arrived at the hospital (University of Chicago) over an hour early, which turned out to be great. First stop was for CT and they proceeded early. Was a CT with lots of inspiration and expiration and also doing it face down after face up. I'd never had one face down before. Later the doctor did express very strong feelings that no CT outside a hospital was up to the standards of a hospital. From CT, I went for my Echocardiogram. Pretty standard fare. Finished it and went to find the ILD coordinator who said to find her first break I had. So, found her and she saw I was ahead of schedule and arranged for me to go on and have blood work then instead of later. Blood work was interesting on more than one count. First, they took over 20 tubes of blood. Lots of small ones but still the nurse said about half a unit in total. Second, two interesting things that I consented to. First, to allow the IPF group to keep some blood for their examination and comparison. All the 13 Centers of Excellence are collecting any they can so they can compare data and build a large database of information they could ultimately provide some clues. Also, I consented to some for the University of Chicago Medical Center. They are now attempting to collect some from every patient so when later they are talking about diseases, they can go back to patients who had one and pull the blood and remove all information tying it to the patient but provide it for use by the researcher of the condition. From blood went to PFT's. They did complete battery and were able to get a good set. Now, fortunately I've learned from here that PFT's can vary by conditions, technician, equipment, software and many other unknown reasons. So, I know the comparisons may be misleading and its more a matter of long term trends. That said, my FVC was 36% which makes sense of all but my most recent one before. My FEV1 was 46% and that also makes sense. That tells me too that I think on my most recent PFT before I just didn't do well at the test. One other thing. I did, this time, request a different mouthpiece and got one that was soft and I took inside my mouth. Much easier than the hard one that is too big for my mouth. Total Lung Capacity showed 48%. Everything else was between 29% (Expired Reserve Volume) and 51% except Residual Volume which is 66% and has always been higher than the others. DLCO was 42% versus previous 38% so for practical purposes about the same. These were the most thorough PFT's I'd had done as they did repeat each one enough to be sure the readings were all good and so there were no wild inconsistent numbers. Now, the six minute walk they did made no sense to me. They did it only with oxygen and at the rate I thought I would need to complete it. Also, I was using my portable which we knew didn't give what it registered. Oh well. I turned it up to 6 lpm (somewhere around 4-4.5 I guess in reality but don't know) and off I went. But I walked away. The tech didn't even check me during the course of the walk, just at beginning and end. But, I checked myself and made sure I didn't drop too far. I bottomed out at 89% and ended at 91%. From there finally back to see the doctor. I saw Dr. Strek. I was very impressed from the start. First thing was that she had actually been through my thick file before I arrived and prepared a list of questions and things to cover. She did state that now she would go back through it with the new information and with my answers. Questioning was pretty routine-yes, I can check almost every possible cause except for smoking, but there I have huge volumes of second hand smoke. She gave only very preliminary thoughts as she will need the rest of the test results plus consultation with her pathologist before giving more. She pointed out one thing very interesting to me. This is that by having her pathologist review the biopsy slides she would be talking with him and questioning and discussing back and forth. Think about this. My biopsy was reviewed by a pathologist at the hospital and at Mayo Clinic but in neither case was there ever any communication between the pulmonologist and the pathologist. In fact, the results were simply emailed or faxed to the surgeon and the pulmonologist. Nothing will be known until after the pathologists review but I think at least initially she is less sure of the form of PF from what she saw than my two other pulmonologists have been. There were a couple of items leading to that. First, she didn't see on the CT the honeycombing she would have expected with UIP/IPF. Second the Mayo Clinic report although concluding that was what I had, did also point out a couple of things that were atypical of UIP/IPF. The report did point out extensive microscopic honeycombing and other things that would say UIP, but also read as follows: "In a few areas more chronic inflammation is present in the parenchyma than typically seen in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, and in a few areas increased alveolar wall fibrosis is seen, analogous to fibrotic nonspecific interstitial pneumonia. Nevertheless, the overriding pattern here is ususal interstitial pneumonia." So, I'm quite interested in what her pathologist says and their communication. It certainly is possible that I have multiple forms of PF. She did indicate, although she'll know more from the blood work, that she saw nothing to indicate any connective tissue disorder. As she is their PF expert in autoimmune disorders I'm particularly interested in seeing if she dismisses them completely as others have done. The early indication is that she'll confirm what has been said in this regard. Everyone kept wanting to know if I needed my parking ticked validated and so I assumed maybe this meant free or something. I found out upon leaving it means you get a whopping $2 off your parking so only pay $21 instead of $23 or something like that. I guess every $2 counts but validation procedures for a 10% parking discount just isn't such a great deal. I then drove to the headquarters of the Pulmonary Fibrosis Foundation where hard at work I found Leanne. It was so wonderful meeting her and that first hug especially. She then gave me a bag. Someone scilly had recommended smooches and strawberries. I got the most incredible huge chocolate chip cookie and nice fresh very tasty strawberries. They were sooooooooooo good. Leanne and I then went to Shula's Steak House for dinner. There is still no better steak anywhere. I had such a great time with her and the food and service was great. I hated having to return her to her car and say goodnight. Then back to my hotel I headed. Thursday I woke to forecasts of storms and maybe even snow. I headed toward home, deciding to come back a different and longer route through Kansas City instead of St. Louis. It was horrible weather with storms and wind. I drove to Des Moines and then headed south toward Kansas City. The first glimmer of sunshine I saw was a 5:15 pm in Southern Iowa. I heard on the radio as I was about an hour south of Des Moines of the tornados spotted and the tornado warning so was just ahead of it, thankfully. Little did I know the awful weather closer to home. Tulsa, for instance, had floods closing schools. The DFW had tornados including one that knocked windows out of a major Fort Worth building closing three blocks downtown. Well, as driving was better starting at 5:15 pm than it had been all day I drove on to Kansas City. When I checked in there around 8 or so it was quite nice actually. Now, I don't know who watches American Idol, but is a huge Cook fan and his hometown is Blue Springs, Mo, which is a suburb of Kansas City, so when I let her know that I was close she went wild and started finding out things for me to check out for her. Well, when I got up Friday, Kansas City was now very cold, torrential downpours, and wind with possible snow on the way. Regardless, I headed for Blue Springs. I got photos of his high school and the baseball field where he played ball. I found her two tshirts for the Blue Springs South Jaguars. I went to downtown Blue Springs and saw the posters in the windows and just happened that the first ones I saw were at the Chamber of Commerce. The lady there gave me one which I also brought back to her. I now headed back through Kansas City and the rain had let up a little. I headed south to Wichita. The winds and cold picked up and as I reached Wichita they were predicting worse. Unfortunately, I did have to get gas along the way and nearly froze to death and had to stop and use restrooms. But, I said, get me where its warm and headed south toward Oklahoma City. Once there I decided I was close enough to drive on home, but I did see enough to say I might take a short trip back to Oklahoma City sometime. I made it here last night and took her loot and home I came. Now, here I am, way behind and not planning to catch up on it all today but I have missed you all. I did see that covered for me by tossing in if BWBB was here, he would tell you.....lol. Thanks SGIO. This trip was mainly to get to the University of Chicago and I'm very glad I did that. I think if anyone can getting to one of the 13 Centers of Excellence is worth it. Regardless of how good your doctors are, these centers do have additional information. I may get my diagnosis confirmed precisely or may find out I have additional forms or whatever, but I'll be glad I had the additional look there. The clinical trial of Revatio is one I may or may not qualify for, but if I decide to do it, we agreed that doing it at Tulane would be just as good since the standards for evaluating and testing were the same across all trial sites. That would be closer. I didn't see a lot on my trip but was surprised by the amount of open areas. I'm very use to congestion and one town running into another. Miles of farmland were something I hadn't seen for a while. I at least touched Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Iowa and Kansas. I probably would have stayed another day in Kansas City or somewhere had the weather been different. I confirmed a couple of things in my mind. First, traveling by auto with oxygen (while at relatively low levels of use) is no problem. Just always be sure you have a backup plan. Second, I'm probably going to have to switch to a national supplier with the traveling I plan, which probably means Lincare. Third, I'm glad I went to the University of Chicago. Fourth, I'm glad I got the van as it is a good travel vehicle. Fifth, and I know others have at times been treated rudely, but I learned again how helpful people are and want to be. I found out in Litchfield that 's grandfather had been on oxygen some, so I think I was a chance for her to honor him in a way. Sixth, if you can possibly meet anyone else on the forum, do so. It's so incredible. There are others i wish I could have met on the way but time and weather didn't let work out. I'm ready for west Texas, San and then my major trip to NC. Hopefully, Disneyworld later in the year. I drove too many miles in too short a time this trip and in the future hope to limit daily drives to around 300 miles and days between any longer drives. I covered over 2,000 miles on this trip, the longest road trip of my adult life. But, I enjoyed it and feel fine now that I'm back home. It is so nice to be back here to share things with all my friends on the forum. > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > Beth > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have been > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > tell me what is going on here? > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Sher wasn't voted off. s was. should now pick up 's votes. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Irene I missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had to find my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ? with a Canadian perspective. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 1:05 pm Subject: Re: Trip Irene I missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had to find my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ? with a Canadian perspective. > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 1:05 pm Subject: Re: Trip Irene I missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had to find my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ? with a Canadian perspective. > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 ---- Original Message ---- To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 1:05 pm Subject: Re: Trip Irene I missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had to find my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ? with a Canadian perspective. > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Bruce, It's OK! I'm glad you're home. ---- Original Message ---- From: Bruce Moreland <brucemorelandgmail> To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 1:05 pm Subject: Re: Trip Irene I missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had to find my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home. > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > Beth > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ? with a Canadian perspective. > Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Ya. You're right. is the little guy. Terrific. I was surprised was voted off anyway. got the names mixed up. Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Newbie Here....how does this forum work?> >> > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have> been> > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> > tell me what is going on here?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 So glad to have you back Bruce. Sounds like you had a wonderful trip. We all missed you so much!! CaroIrn3189@... wrote: ---- Original Message ----From: Bruce Moreland <brucemorelandgmail>To: Breathe-Support Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 1:05 pmSubject: Re: Trip IreneI missed you too. Sorry I couldn't talk longer yesterday, but had tofind my way out of Blue Springs and get headed home.> >> > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell> us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back!> >> >> > Beth> > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06> >> > Change everything. Love and Forgive> >> >> >> >> >> > Newbie Here....how does this forum work?> >> > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have> been> > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> > tell me what is going on here?> >>>>>>>__________________________________________________________> Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment ?with a Canadian perspective.> Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective. CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08Mississippi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 OOHHH, if was voted off, I would just die!!! He is awesome!! CaroBruce Moreland wrote: Sher wasn't voted off. s was. should now pick up's votes.> >> > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell> us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back!> >> >> > Beth> > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06> >> > Change everything. Love and Forgive> >> >> >> >> >> > Newbie Here....how does this forum work?> >> > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have> been> > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> > tell me what is going on here?> >>CaroASTHMA 1976,OSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08Mississippi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Bruce, I'm glad you're home and even happier it was such a productive and informative trip for you. Then the added bonus of meeting Leanne! Isn't she the best?! Gotta love her. University of Chicago's procedures sound very similar to Dukes which makes sense I suppose. One thing that caught my eye was your CT scan. The fact that you had it done in both prone and supine positions tells me they did it with something called an "ILD Protocol". It's a series of films in both positions with specific directions for breathing and breath holding that make it easier for them to visualize interstitial lung disease. Most hospitals especially university medical centers have a built in predjudice against any test results that come from anywhere outside the university hospital. It's the same at Duke and I would imagine it's the same pretty much anywhere. You can't blame them for the attitude in a way, they trust their own facilities and their own standards over the unknown facilities and standards of an outside hospital, lab or imaging center. Anyway, once again, glad you are home. Now get some rest! Beth Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Change everything. Love and Forgive Newbie Here....how does this forum work?>> I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might havebeen> here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> tell me what is going on here?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Beth Yes, Leanne was great to meet. Yes, thats the type CT they were doing, but I'd previously had similar done just not face down. lol Their procedures should be consistent with Duke's. I realize no one trusts another but a couple of points they made are valid beyond that prejudice. First, as to the CT's, her real point of emphasis was hospitals versus non-hospitals. I don't know if thats a big difference, but I do know the CT was different in terms of the positions. Obviously they feel that is of benefit, so then you'd question why non-hospitals don't do it. Then as to the biopsy, I think communication is always key and having the pulmonologist and pathologist communicating is of benefit. Its like the difference between voice mail and actually speaking to someone on the phone. Now, as to the echocardiogram, the last one I had at a local hospital was by far the most thorough in total. However, I believe the emphasis may have been more directed at the University of Chicago. As to the PFT's I know they were definitely more thorough at U of C. I also believe that the 13 Centers do have a set of standards for evaluation of the disease and I think this would include the exact way they administer certain tests. I've been led to believe that because of that, if I do decide to do the trial, Tulane will accept U of C's testing if its been done within 90 days, since they are both in the 13 and both in the trial. One reason I valued going to U of Chicago was knowing they wouldn't value the work of others too much. When you get a second opinion you want it truely independent. For instance, I want the pathologist forming his opinion before looking at the others opinions and then he can look and see if he agrees or missed something or thinks they missed something. And, if I was a pulmonologist, I wouldn't trust the reports of anyone I didn't know in such life decisions and wouldn't trust some I did know. For instance, my neurologist reads every x-ray, MRI, CT himself in addition to the radiologist. He always wants to see what they are talking about as well as see if they missed anything. He actually puts them on the whiteboard in the exam room and points it all out to you. Of course, of all my doctors, he's the quickest to tell you when he thinks others were wrong too. But, he'll also tell you when he was wrong because your reaction to a medication proves so. -- In Breathe-Support , Beth wrote: > > Bruce, > I'm glad you're home and even happier it was such a productive and informative trip for you. Then the added bonus of meeting Leanne! Isn't she the best?! Gotta love her. > University of Chicago's procedures sound very similar to Dukes which makes sense I suppose. One thing that caught my eye was your CT scan. The fact that you had it done in both prone and supine positions tells me they did it with something called an " ILD Protocol " . It's a series of films in both positions with specific directions for breathing and breath holding that make it easier for them to visualize interstitial lung disease. Most hospitals especially university medical centers have a built in predjudice against any test results that come from anywhere outside the university hospital. It's the same at Duke and I would imagine it's the same pretty much anywhere. > You can't blame them for the attitude in a way, they trust their own facilities and their own standards over the unknown facilities and standards of an outside hospital, lab or imaging center. > Anyway, once again, glad you are home. Now get some rest! > > > Beth > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > been > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > tell me what is going on here? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Bruce, As to the ct scan.... the difference in the positioning is in the way they write the order for the HRCT. If the order specifically says "ILD protocol" you will be positioned both prone and supine if they are doing it right. Oddly the first one I had done that way was done at an independent imaging center, after I had it done there once I went back there rather than back to my local community hospital ( this was in NY obviously). This particular facility has a reputation for excellence that my local (NY) hospital does not. Beth Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Change everything. Love and Forgive Newbie Here....how does this forum work?> >> > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have> been> > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone> > tell me what is going on here?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Beth Well, see, all mine were in doctor's office. Now recognize doctor's office is owned by largest hospital chain and connected to hospital, but still is a doctor's office. > > > > > > Hey! Welcome back road warrior!!! I assume you are safely home. Tell > > us about your trip when you have a chance! We're glad you're back! > > > > > > > > > Beth > > > Age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 > > > > > > Change everything. Love and Forgive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newbie Here....how does this forum work? > > > > > > I just wandered in here and think maybe once long ago I might have > > been > > > here but as I'm oxygen deprived may need some refreshing. Can anyone > > > tell me what is going on here? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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