Re: Group counseling definitely needed

March 14, 2000

OMG Pat You made me tired just reading that!!! Whew!!!! I think I lost 5 #

LOL Margie SC

March 14, 2000

I went through this for a year and was not successful with my insurance. Things

to do: Join a gym or exercise class or water aerobics and get in as good shape

as you possibly can. Keep researching and staying in contact with others on

this list. Volunteer at some civic organization that benefits the

underprivileged or elderly. Try to find others nearby who are frustrated also

and form a support group. Get a new wardrobe organized: a few things in each

smaller size that you will eventually need (become a garage sale regular, thrift

shop browser, sew your own, go to half-of-a-half-of-a-half sales, outlet stores,

etc.) Start all the healthy habits you can: No caffeine, avoid sugars and

fats, learn to cook healthy dishes, (experiment with new kinds of cooking--find

the American Diabetic assn. and get some cookbooks from them), Keep a daily

journal with an eye toward writing a book someday. Make new curtains, or chair

covers, or pillows, redecorate a room in your house doing lots and lots of

window shopping and browsing beforehand, take a fun class at the local college

that you have always wanted to take: painting, stained-class, etc. Read lots

of books. Go to movies with friends. Go on one-day out-of-town trips with your

friends and do fun things (I went digging for diamonds in Arkansas with a

friend--lots of work and POTENTIAL excitement.) Get a taibo (sp?) tape and

take out your frustrations doing those exercises, or puch pillows or stomp on

them or whatever makes you feel better. I have even gotten to the point of

cleaning and organizing my closets! LOL. Good Luck!!

Pat Eppler

Tyler, TX

MGB 4-3 self-pay

Group counseling definitely needed

From: CuteAKA2nv@...

All right guys and gals,

This is my situation. In the four months of patiently waiting for new

insurance to kick in, I read, researched, made phone calls, etc., in effort

to prepare for this surgery. Now, I find that I may be subject to a waiting

period. It could be short or as long as November 2000 before I am even

presented to medical review. Now I am becoming anxious, irritable, and

melancholy. Today I felt as if I may need an antidepressant just to get

through the waiting period. I know others who have fought longer and harder

and maybe even deserved the surgery more than I do. WHAT DID YOU ALL DO TO

KEEP SANITY DURING THE WAIT? It seems that once I made up my mind to do this

I want it immediately and waiting may KILL me in the meantime. SOMEBODY HELP

ME PLEASE! I am beginning to get discouraged.

le

Blue Crap Blue Shield of AL

still in predetermination and will be for another two weeks

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March 14, 2000

Why would you need an h-pylori test if I might ask?

Thanks,

Ann

March 14, 2000

It took me from August to January to get approval from HMO and was involved

in a grievance procedure- (letter writing). Provided research, refused all

other

suggestions from them such as Xenical, and reasons why. Finally sent in

pictures

of myself along with a complete history of medical, family history and

letters from

doctors/dentists and people who have known my struggle. Finally approved.

Went

through the psychological exam OK and then flunked the H-pylori test. For

those of

you waiting, have the H-pylori bacteria test done before you get approved so

you

can have it cleared up and retested. I have to wait now another 28 days

before

retest so that has put my surgery out to April, that is if the bacteria is

gone. Good luck.

Group counseling definitely needed

>From: CuteAKA2nv@...

>

>All right guys and gals,

>

>This is my situation. In the four months of patiently waiting for new

>insurance to kick in, I read, researched, made phone calls, etc., in effort

>to prepare for this surgery. Now, I find that I may be subject to a waiting

>period. It could be short or as long as November 2000 before I am even

>presented to medical review. Now I am becoming anxious, irritable, and

>melancholy. Today I felt as if I may need an antidepressant just to get

>through the waiting period. I know others who have fought longer and harder

>and maybe even deserved the surgery more than I do. WHAT DID YOU ALL DO TO

>KEEP SANITY DURING THE WAIT? It seems that once I made up my mind to do

this

>I want it immediately and waiting may KILL me in the meantime. SOMEBODY

HELP

>ME PLEASE! I am beginning to get discouraged.

>

>le

>Blue Crap Blue Shield of AL

>still in predetermination and will be for another two weeks

>

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March 14, 2000

Thanks for the info Diane.

Ann

March 14, 2000

The RNY surgery requires that you don't have the bacteria H-pylori that

causes ulcers. When they close off the old stomach, it can eventually cause

an ulcer and they don't want that to happen. According to the surgeon 20%

of the population has it and don't even now it. I was one of those unlucky

people. But if your surgeon requires it, do it long before so you don't get

disappointed and have to wait. Its 10 - 14 days of medicines and then a

28 incubation period before than can do a C-14 carbon test, or stomach

biopsy. For those of you having the mini, you may not need to worry about

this.

Re: Group counseling definitely needed

>

>Why would you need an h-pylori test if I might ask?

>

>Thanks,

>

> Ann

>

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March 14, 2000

le,

Something that has always helped me when I get anxiuos about having

something done or going somewhere or just waiting for Christmas (yes I am

worse than any child!), I always remember a verse from the Bible that helps

me a lot. " Be still and know that I am God. " I don't remember which part

of the Bible it is from, but it reminds me that God will take care of

everthing for me if I give it over to Him. I hope this helps, even if it is

just a little.

(MGB Approved)

Group counseling definitely needed

> From: CuteAKA2nv@...

>

> All right guys and gals,

>

> This is my situation. In the four months of patiently waiting for new

> insurance to kick in, I read, researched, made phone calls, etc., in

effort

> to prepare for this surgery. Now, I find that I may be subject to a

waiting

> period. It could be short or as long as November 2000 before I am even

> presented to medical review. Now I am becoming anxious, irritable, and

> melancholy. Today I felt as if I may need an antidepressant just to get

> through the waiting period. I know others who have fought longer and

harder

> and maybe even deserved the surgery more than I do. WHAT DID YOU ALL DO TO

> KEEP SANITY DURING THE WAIT? It seems that once I made up my mind to do

this

> I want it immediately and waiting may KILL me in the meantime. SOMEBODY

HELP

> ME PLEASE! I am beginning to get discouraged.

>

> le

> Blue Crap Blue Shield of AL

> still in predetermination and will be for another two weeks

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9%

> Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW!

> http://click./1/936/1/_/453517/_/953068950/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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>

March 15, 2000

le,

Well I waited a year and in that time I was anxious , irritable and

melancholy! I was lucky I was already on an antideppressant. If you feel you

need one then get one do not feel that it shameful or anything! My hubby was

ready to turn me in on a new wife when I finally went on an antideppressant.

WOW! I could not believe the difference. It was like night and day.Besides I

think Dr R would agree that obesity can cause a bit of depression in and of

itself. My hubby HAS said I am different since my approval came but in the

preceding 11 mo I was on a more even keel than if I had not been on an

antideppressant. I hope this helps Paige

>From: CuteAKA2nv@...

>Reply-To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

>To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

>Subject: Group counseling definitely needed

>Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:22:15 EST