Re: teething and cytokines--red cheeks

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also gets the bright red cheeks (secondary to dysautonomia) and

periodically has the same red rash....has it now in fact...usually acts up

when he has a virus like now.

Dena

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Sorry to just jump in here, but the hot red cheeks caught my attention.

samantha gets this ALOT. For no reason, her cheeks will become flaiming hot

red. She has done this as long as I can remember. Her neuro suggested that

it could be part of dysautonomia, and her bp may be up at that time. and

recently when her face would get red, her bp would be up. For no reason

ofcourse. But today she did it and her bp was actually lower than her norm.

So I have no idea. As with the teeth, never put those two together. Just

wanted to share that sam also gets this strange red rash. It goes from her

cheek bones all along sides of cheeks and under her chin. Like a big wide U.

Hmmmm, wonder if this is another mito thing.

>From: jayvelde@...

>Reply-To: Mito

>To: Mito

>Subject: Re: teething and cytokines

>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:27:10 EST

>

>

> > Cytokines are inflammatory markers, yes, part of immune system. I used

>to

> > have an abstract around here that talked about teething and cytokines.

>Not

> > sure if I can find it. He has had trouble with every tooth. ANd they

>take

> > about 7 mos for the permanent one to START cutting thru

>

>Cara, Thanks for the info! I would be interested in that abstract or how to

>track it down. Where do you usually look for info like this?

>Does your son get flame red, hot patches on his cheeks when he is teething.

>I

>noticed this with Chelsea about a month ago when her 2 front top teeth were

>coming in. She would get these patches on her cheeks periodically and it

>seemed to cooincide with seizure clusters she had at that time. The dentist

>last week told me he could feel her 6 yr molars coming in. Monday, she

>started a cluster of seizures first thing in the am, activity continued

>thru

>yesterday and I could tell she was not feeling like herself. Her cheeks

>were

>also red and hot both days, but no fever. She also has been producing lots

>of

>thick mucus. Today she has been fine, and her cheeks are normal. I am

>wondering if this is a sign of cytokine production and inflammation.

>I am wondering if you can answer this ? also. Are cytokines the same thing

>as

>inflammatory prostaglandins? Prostaglandins are protiens that are a part of

>the immune system, there are inflammatory prostaglandins and ones that stop

>inflammation. In learning about my own condition, eczema (common name is

>atopic dermatitis), those with this condition have an unhealthy ratio of

>prostaglandins in favor of the inflammatory. I have definatly seen this

>with

>my allergic reactions, my skin will become very red, hot and inflammed in a

>localized area. I did a lot of reading on supplemnts and learned that

>Essential Fatty Acids, Omega 3's specifically, help promote a healthier

>balance of the prostaglandins. I did start taking this supplement over a

>year

>ago and have noticed an incredible difference. I am thinking of bringing

>this

>up to her dr and ask if it would be ok to try the EFA's with Chelsea. Have

>you any solutions, besides lots of oral stim, to help relieve some of the

>symptoms of teething?

>Thanks for your help!

>

>e, Chelsea's mom(nonspecific mito)

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We just started noticing the red, hot cheeks on Chelsea with her 2 top front

teeth coming in over a month ago. It did seem to coincide with seizures. It

was like this again mon and tues, but now she is fine.

I have also wondered if she is having some autonomic problems. We started to

see purple, cold feet this summer, which seemed to be positional (her feet

would turn purple when they are dangling below her). Another thing I have

noticed is that previous fall/winter, I would have to be careful how I

dressed her, as she easily overheated. This year, she often feels cold,

especially her feet. She feels cold in sweats that last year made her hot. I

also think her size may be a factor in this issue. She is now 50lbs and 43

1/2 " and still gaining!

Sam's rash sounds strange. How long does it last? Does her skin become

inflammed? I don't know if autonomic dysfunction can cause rashes, but I

definitely know autoimmune dysfunction can. There is also contact dermatitis

which is acquired reaction to chemicals usually found in household products

like detergents and tooth paste.

e, Chelsea's mom(nonspecific mito)

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I don't know if autonomic dysfunction can cause rashes, but I

definitely know autoimmune dysfunction can.

I was just thinking about this a few minutes ago... has two circular dry-looking patches by his mouth...each one is the size of a dime...the pediatrician told me what to try on it...then iwas remember that Mattie Stepanek is in the hospital again for a sore on his head... wondering how that would be linked to mito...anyone know??

deb