Re: Ultralente to be discontinued

[Guest guest]

I'll remember that when I have to start on Lantus. But it's going to be

a while...I was able to buy 6 bottles of UL; that's about a year's

worth, smile.

Vicki

Re: Ultralente to be discontinued

>> I always reuse my syringes...usually good for about 4 times each

>> before

>> I start having trouble gettin' them thru my skin.

>

> I think with Lantus it's not wise to reuse syringes. Sometimes skin

> cells

> can cause the Lantus to come out of solution, and if that happens, you

> lose

> the whole bottle. Of course you might want to try. Maybe it wouldn't

> happen.

>

> Gretchen

>

[Guest guest]

I use the BD-Mini with Humalog cartridges (no longer being made,

alas)...I put on a new needle every time I put in a new cartridge. If I

think about it. Those little thingies seem to last forever.

Vicki

Re: Ultralente to be discontinued

> Wondering if anyone re-uses the pen-needles the same way? At

> least within the same day?

>

> SulaBlue

>

>

>> I always reuse my syringes...usually good for about 4 times

> each before

>> I start having trouble gettin' them thru my skin. Of course I'm

> very

>> careful to not get the syringes for UL and the ones from H

> mixed up. (I

>> keep them in different places).

>> Vicki

[Guest guest]

Yay. It's not just me, then.

OK, - as you're obviously well-versed in the reuse of a pen-needle Do

you

leave it attached to the pen the entire time, or cap and remove? Seems more

sanitary to

leave it on, but I've also heard you can have pen leakage that way (Tho, not

quite sure

how, if the dial's not turned?)

I can't remember the last time I changed my lancet I usually use a pen-needle

for a

couple of days - but then, I usally don't take more than 1-2 injections of

Humalog a day. I

find after about 5-6 sticks I get a little 'resistance'. Tho, here's the REALLY

weird part - I

notice I bruise less with the a re-used pen-needle than I do when it's new. What

in the

world's up with *THAT* I wonder?

Oh, and speaking of bruises - I still have that one funky discolored spot on my

arm that's

hanging around well after every other one has healed. I'm scarred for life AYIE

SulaBlue

> Oh heck, if a needle manufacturer depended on me to make a profit they

> would have a major problem. I reuse pen needles for the life of the

> cartridge. I use the novo penfil3 or novopen jr, which holds 300 units.

> The novolog cartridge could last 30 days and the lantus cartridge (not in

> a lantus pens but a novo pen) needle lasts a little more than 3 weeks.

> Now would you like to guess how long I use a lancet needle? :-)

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:31:25 -0000, " SulaBlue "

wrote:

>Wondering if anyone re-uses the pen-needles the same way? At

>least within the same day?

I go 4 or 5 days on a Novopen needle. I change it when I start

feeling the stick a little. That is probably at least 20 shots, most

of which I shoot through my clothes.

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[Guest guest]

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 02:14:26 -0000 " SulaBlue "

writes:

> Yay. It's not just me, then.

>

> OK, - as you're obviously well-versed in the reuse of a

> pen-needle Do you leave it attached to the pen the entire time,

Leave it capped and attached the entire time.

> or cap and remove?

> Seems more sanitary to leave it on, but I've also heard you can have

pen leakage that way

I have never had a leakage, either with prefilled cartridges or the

cartridges I fill myself with Lantus.

> (Tho, not quite sure how, if the dial's not turned?)

I don't know since I have never had that experience.

>

> I can't remember the last time I changed my lancet I usually use

> a pen-needle for a couple of days - but then, I usally don't take more

than 1-2

> injections of Humalog a day. I find after about 5-6 sticks I get a

little 'resistance'. Tho, here's

> the REALLY weird part - I notice I bruise less with the a re-used

pen-needle than I do when

> it's new. What in the world's up with *THAT* I wonder?

With the BD Ultra Fine III 31 gauge short needles I don't get resistence,

bruising or any blood drops. The only thing I have noticed it is easier

to get the needle going through the cap if the cap is not lined up

properlythan with the thicker needles.

>

> Oh, and speaking of bruises - I still have that one funky discolored

> spot on my arm that's hanging around well after every other one has

healed. I'm scarred

> for life AYIE

>

You give yourself shots in the arm? Why? If you exclusively use the area

around the navel (about 2 " from the center point) you have more spots to

use without reusing an area, have quicker absorption and cut back on the

bruising thing.

[Guest guest]

On 8 Jul 2005 00:52:35 -0000 Samante writes:

>

> On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:31:25 -0000 " SulaBlue "

>

> writes:

> > Wondering if anyone re-uses the pen-needles the same way? At

> > least within the same day?

> >

> > SulaBlue

> >

> Oh heck, if a needle manufacturer depended on me to make a profit

> they would have a major problem. I reuse pen needles for the life of

the

> cartridge. I use the novo penfil3 or novopen jr, which holds 300

> units. The novolog cartridge could last 30 days and the lantus

cartridge

> (not in a lantus pens but a novo pen) needle lasts a little more than 3

> weeks. Now would you like to guess how long I use a lancet needle? :-)

>

>

I can do you one better. I also transfer Lantus into empty novo

cartridges and sometimes when I refill the cartridge I reattach the old

pen needle. That would make the needle being used for about 60 shots at

one shot a day. Of course with novolog using one needle per cartridge

could mean 80-90 shots on one needle. I have never had an infection or

even a hint of one and as the needles get shorter and thinner the

bruising factor is a dim memory.

[Guest guest]

, when putting Lantus into an empty Novo bottle, do you rinse the

Novo bottle out first (by shooting a syringe of distilled water in it)?

I'd be concerned about Novo residue mixing with the Lantus.

Vicki, who's going to be refilling Humalog carts soon.

Re: Re: Ultralente to be discontinued

>

> On 8 Jul 2005 00:52:35 -0000 Samante writes:

>>

>> On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:31:25 -0000 " SulaBlue "

>>

>> writes:

>> > Wondering if anyone re-uses the pen-needles the same way? At

>> > least within the same day?

>> >

>> > SulaBlue

>> >

>> Oh heck, if a needle manufacturer depended on me to make a profit

>> they would have a major problem. I reuse pen needles for the life of

> the

>> cartridge. I use the novo penfil3 or novopen jr, which holds 300

>> units. The novolog cartridge could last 30 days and the lantus

> cartridge

>> (not in a lantus pens but a novo pen) needle lasts a little more than

>> 3

>

>> weeks. Now would you like to guess how long I use a lancet needle?

>> :-)

>>

>>

>

> I can do you one better. I also transfer Lantus into empty novo

> cartridges and sometimes when I refill the cartridge I reattach the

> old

> pen needle. That would make the needle being used for about 60 shots

> at

> one shot a day. Of course with novolog using one needle per cartridge

> could mean 80-90 shots on one needle. I have never had an infection or

> even a hint of one and as the needles get shorter and thinner the

> bruising factor is a dim memory.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > (Tho, not quite sure how, if the dial's not turned?)

>

> I don't know since I have never had that experience.

I smell a conspiracy to sell more pen-needles here! HRRRRRM!

Ah well, they gotta make their money some-how!

> With the BD Ultra Fine III 31 gauge short needles I don't get

resistence,

> bruising or any blood drops. The only thing I have noticed it is

easier

> to get the needle going through the cap if the cap is not lined

up

I use the same brand.

> You give yourself shots in the arm? Why? If you exclusively use

the area

> around the navel (about 2 " from the center point) you have

more spots to

> use without reusing an area, have quicker absorption and cut

back on the

> bruising thing.

I don't like shooting through my clothes. So, sometimes, if I'm out

in public in a dress, rather than going to the bathroom and into a

stall to lift my dress to get to my tummy, I'll shoot up in the arm at

the table. I don't think most people have even noticed what I'm

doing.

I shoot pretty much anywhere there's enough fat - which, on me,

means just about anywhere but the calves or outer thighs. SOON

TO CHANGE, HOWEVER!

SulaBlue

>

[Guest guest]

On 8 Jul 2005 13:33:52 -0000 " SulaBlue " writes:

>

>

> > > (Tho, not quite sure how, if the dial's not turned?)

> >

> > I don't know since I have never had that experience.

>

>

> > You give yourself shots in the arm? Why? If you exclusively use the

area

> > around the navel (about 2 " from the center point) you have more spots

to

> > use without reusing an area, have quicker absorption and cut back on

the

> > bruising thing.

>

> I don't like shooting through my clothes.

How come? One of the published advantages of using a pen is being able to

shoot through clothes.

> So, sometimes, if I'm out

> in public in a dress, rather than going to the bathroom and into a

> stall to lift my dress to get to my tummy, I'll shoot up in the arm

> at the table. I don't think most people have even noticed what I'm

> doing.

>

Ya think? Back when we were told to shoot in the arm it sure sent me to a

public rest rooms because it was to me so obvious to others what I was

doing.

[Guest guest]

--- In diabetes_int , One Stop

>

> How come? One of the published advantages of using a pen

is being able to

> shoot through clothes.

Because I wear a lot of pastels, and there's been a couple of

times where I've had just the slightest bit of blood. Bloody

clothes BAD! So, if I'm wearing a shirt, or dark color, it's not an

issue. Pastel dress = shot in the arm.

> > So, sometimes, if I'm out

> > in public in a dress, rather than going to the bathroom and

into a

> > stall to lift my dress to get to my tummy, I'll shoot up in the

arm

> > at the table. I don't think most people have even noticed what

I'm

> > doing.

> >

> Ya think? Back when we were told to shoot in the arm it sure

sent me to a

> public rest rooms because it was to me so obvious to others

what I was

> doing.

Hrm. Well, I've never really caught anyone looking at me funny

about it. 9 times out of 10, tho, it's in the tummy and under the

edge of the table. The pen-needles don't seem to wig my BF out

as much as his dad doing it with a vial and syringe

SulaBlue

>

[Guest guest]

>I can do you one better. I also transfer Lantus into empty novo

>cartridges

I assume you're getting good results or you wouldn't be doing this.

Any problems? Do you make any attempt to remove the novo residue

before filling? Any attempt to re-sterilize the empty cart? Do you

shoot the Lantus through the septum or do you eject the rubber plug

and fill it from the back, then replace the rubber plug.

I've been considering doing this with my old disposable FlexPens.

I've figured out how to get the pen apart and reset the mechanism.

Hmmm.

>and sometimes when I refill the cartridge I reattach the old

>pen needle. That would make the needle being used for about 60 shots at

>one shot a day. Of course with novolog using one needle per cartridge

>could mean 80-90 shots on one needle. I have never had an infection or

>even a hint of one and as the needles get shorter and thinner the

>bruising factor is a dim memory.

Since I almost always shoot through my clothes, my needles get dull

after fewer shots than that. But like you, I've yet to see any

indication of anything out of the ordinary. I only change the needle

when I start to feel the sting of a dull point.

Here's another trick. I mixed some silicone oil like used in copy

machines with some alcohol. I shot that into an old Lantus vial. I

can stick a needle through the septum with the vial upside down and

then withdraw it (do NOT operate the plunger!) to restore the silicone

coating to the needle that makes it slip in the skin so nicely. The

alcohol wasn't strictly necessary but I figured that it would

sterilize the oil.

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De Armond

See my website for my current email address

http://www.johngsbbq.com

Cleveland, Occupied TN