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I have that sometimes . Its like a 'swimmy' sensation like im in water

or syrup:( The neoro knew exactly what i meant by it:( Im sorry you get it

sometimes but it nice to know im not the only one:( Luck to you~~Lowi

brain fog

> one more question for my research and im out of hereeeee for the

> afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have it you'll know what i

> mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes you feel very tired

> instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL Occasionally.

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Me too, and Lori; Often, and I ask my wife, " Did

someone just drain a quart of blood out of me? " . If

one is fortunate, they can just lie down for a moment.

Russ

--- Lori Phibbs wrote:

> I have that sometimes . Its like a 'swimmy'

> sensation like im in water

> or syrup:( The neoro knew exactly what i meant by

> it:( Im sorry you get it

> sometimes but it nice to know im not the only one:(

> Luck to you~~Lowi

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> > one more question for my research and im out of

> hereeeee for the

> > afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have

> it you'll know what i

> > mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes

> you feel very tired

> > instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL

> Occasionally.

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when it hits try drinking a BIG glass of water, it helps me, i dont

get it often now but used to everyday. there are causes of this, the

main one being intestinal problems. more on that later.

n NF2_Crew@y..., Russ Korte <rk45703a@y...> wrote:

> Me too, and Lori; Often, and I ask my wife, " Did

> someone just drain a quart of blood out of me? " . If

> one is fortunate, they can just lie down for a moment.

> Russ

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> --- Lori Phibbs <lphibbs@a...> wrote:

> > I have that sometimes . Its like a 'swimmy'

> > sensation like im in water

> > or syrup:( The neoro knew exactly what i meant by

> > it:( Im sorry you get it

> > sometimes but it nice to know im not the only one:(

> > Luck to you~~Lowi

> > brain fog

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> > > one more question for my research and im out of

> > hereeeee for the

> > > afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have

> > it you'll know what i

> > > mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes

> > you feel very tired

> > > instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL

> > Occasionally.

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Subject: Re: brain fog

I too have them sometimes and Lori, I hate it really, not

understandimg the reason it happens

Sheryn

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Lori said:

> I have that sometimes . Its like a 'swimmy' sensation like im in

water

> or syrup:( The neoro knew exactly what i meant by it:( Im sorry you get

it

> sometimes but it nice to know im not the only one:( Luck to you~~Lowi

> brain fog

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> > one more question for my research and im out of hereeeee for the

> > afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have it you'll know what i

> > mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes you feel very tired

> > instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL Occasionally.

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Subject: brain fog

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hmmmmm , That sounds closer to vertigo to me.......

Sheryn

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sees what you people are calling brain fog then yells WHAT???? Do you mean when it feels like the room is closing in on ya? I start to sweat and the room spins round and round….this what ya’ll mean? If so….HECK! I thought it was something I dreamed up!

…..not spinning at the moment in Mississippi

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Wowwwwwwwwwwwww thats a good desription Russ!! It feels like your about to

blackout!! Exactly:) Ill do the water . I tryyyyyyyyyyyyyy to drink

it throughout the day but sometimes i am lax:( I have heard that intestinal

probs can cause the poisens to re enter the system (your body) So that is

an interesting thought that it might be the cause of some of this

hooey:( Glad im not alone tho:)~~Lowi

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> when it hits try drinking a BIG glass of water, it helps me, i dont

> get it often now but used to everyday. there are causes of this, the

> main one being intestinal problems. more on that later.

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Well count me in....hits usually at the wrong times!!!

Carol

brain fog

> one more question for my research and im out of hereeeee for the

> afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have it you'll know what i

> mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes you feel very tired

> instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL Occasionally.

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Hello! On any Rx meds?

Russ

--- CarolW wrote:

> Well count me in....hits usually at the wrong

> times!!!

> Carol

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> > one more question for my research and im out of

> hereeeee for the

> > afternoon. Who here has " brain fog " if you have

> it you'll know what i

> > mean, a foggy feeling that hits at anytime, makes

> you feel very tired

> > instantly. i HAD THIS FOR YEARS AND STILL

> Occasionally.

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This aint for the brain fog but I take

1200mg of Tegratol - antiseziure

150mg of Effexor - antidepressant

that's per day

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Hello! On any Rx meds?

Russ

--- CarolW wrote:

> Well count me in....hits usually at the wrong

> times!!!

> Carol

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Hi Lori! So, you can't see at least and don't feel

pain, ah, occassionally. We are beginning to

understand, 'brain fog', kidding... smile. I know it's

a reality for many. I hope your day is well!

Russ

--- Lori Phibbs wrote:

> Im on nothing but my eye salve Russ:) Just advil

> and Tylenol

> occassionally:) Thank God:)~~Lowi

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  • 2 years later...

i know, and that is the chief weakness of conventional medicine--fix

one leak, start another somewhere else. sometimes i get the feeling

we're all just putting duct tape over the symptoms of our diseases.

not just ms, but also bipolar sufferers, who take lithium which

eventually erodes their thyroids.

i knew nothing about my thyroid until i had a thyroid disease. now i'm

consistently surprised at not just how many things the thyroid controls

and affects, but also how many external factors can affect and control

the thyroid.

somedays it seems like a minefield.

baron

>

> yes, baron, that is correct. My best friend has MS, but she also has

> a lot of symptoms that resemble hypoT. I remember her telling me that

> it's more common in some geographical areas of the US too. Her yearly

> check ups include a scan of her brain to see if there are new lesions.

> And the meds she takes I think could very easily make the thyroid not

> function. Some of those meds are like taking chemotherapy for cancer.

> They do as much harm as they do good. :-(

>

> SandyE~Houston

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>

> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:12:52 -0700

> baron chat wrote:

>> doesn't ms cause lesions on the brain, also? it seems to have a

>> real

>> physiological impact on the brain, is what i remember reading.

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>>> Sorry, spastic memory, but brain fog IS a symptom of hypo. That

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>>> that the thyroid IS affecting your thoughts/memory etc. And hypo

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>>> hyper affect people in different ways. So it is possible that a

>> hypo

>>> person would have a severe case of brain fog. OR someone has

>> Hashi's

>>> or Graves and has symptoms of other autoimmune diseases. I know MS

>>> can affect your memory. Agreed not directly related to your

>> thyroid

>>> but directly related to having an autoimmune disease.

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cindi,

i understand what you mean. there are those who are ill and

desperately want to get better and are pro-active about it. then there

are those who are ill and accept defeat or lose their hope.

it's dismaying and sad when it's someone you care about.

probably worse are the friends i've had who've been ill, became well

read about their illnesses and symptoms, but never possessed the

self-respect and the self-love or simple motivation to actually follow

through with any action to improve their lives. i had a friend who

suffered from lupus, ibs (she has the runs several times a day, so

there was also a concern for crohn's), fatigue, etc.. and has health

insurance (ppo). she was always saying she'd be making an appointment

with the dr " next week " . it's not like she was busy. she worked from

home as a web programmer, had very flexible hours and an easy boss.

her money, she felt, was better spent on drinks, cds, dvds, instead of

the copay and the meds. her diet was atrocious: macaroni and cheese,

pizza, etc.. a vegetarian diet, but one heavy with the pastas, cheeses

and breads.

i decided i couldn't care about someone more than they cared about

themselves. so i stopped bothering. it's no fun for you and it's no

fun for them. eventually, all that nagging would have translated into

me butting into someone else's business. i know what it's like to have

lost my health--i desperately want it back. but some people it seems,

are able to find contentment subsisting at various levels of existence.

she's 25. i don't get it.

baron

i've told a good friend who has fibro all this stuff...and for her to

please

> ask her doctor to get tested...but has it done any good? no. it's so

> hard to

> save the world sometimes. sigh.

> cindi

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  • 3 years later...

Boy, Cherie, can I RELATE! I want to cry when I think about how bad my brain

is. I remember when it first really hit me in 1999 I was at work and I

closed the door and just cried to myself. I said out loud " I have gotten so

stupid " . I didn't know what was happening to me and suddenly everyone

started to notice too and thought I was taking drugs or something (I WISH it

were that easy).

I used to be so sharp and my brain is down to about 20% of what it was. I

did an IQ test a few years ago and dropped 40 points from where I had been

in my 20s! I have to say I have a whole new empathy for people who just

don't " get it " like I used to so easily as now I am one of those people,

lol.

Math was always my favorite subject in school and college. I didn't even

show up for freshman Algebra other than to take the tests and that was the

#1 class students failed at my university, lol. Yeah, I considered a math

degree too then got off on a tangent. Chemistry was what really loved. It

had both the math and the science parts. That is why health stuff interests

me a lot from a cellular standpoint and the chemical reactions in our

bodies.

I had a job where a coworker would race me. She would read off a bunch of

numbers for me to calculate in my head while she did it on her calculator

and whoever finished first won. I won every time. :) I could NEVER do that

now. I bet I couldn't even get the calculation at all.

I also used to be a very good speller but now I am completely dependent on

spell check and have a hard time remembering the most simple things. I seem

to have no capacity to learn new things. This has been going on for at least

a decade but started diminishing about 20 years ago. I just have such poor

short and long term memory so when I do learn something, I forget what I

learned, lol. Once I forgot an entire 5-year career I had. That is pretty

bad brain functioning!

I still find stuff I wrote or things from years ago and it looks like it

came from someone else. I cannot relate at all. I wanted to go back to

school and get another degree but there is no way I could now with my low

functioning brain.

Cheri

-----Original Message-----

Ahhh...I see....It seems so simple once you put it like that....I'm sure I

could have figured that out in about 20 years or so on my own....I'm blaming

it on the brain fog! What's really scary is I almost majored in math in

college. I miss my brain!

Cherie

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  • 1 month later...

Happy Saturday,

Just something funny - my brain fog was so bad this last week that on

Wednesday I woke up thinking it was Tuesday, and I got on myspace and

started commenting all of my friends with a " Happy Mardi Gras " graphic.

I was halfway done when I realized " derrr, Melody, it's Wednesday!

Mardi Gras is over! "

I felt embarrassed at first, then laughed about it.

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