Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 I use a fresh pad for each eye, . They seem big enough for me, I just use "a small amount" of ointment in one eye only at night, so the goop in the morning really isn't bad. I hold one to an eye, don't rub, just hold, then use fresh q-tips to clean up. I have one of those pull-out-from-the-wall-type magnifying mirrors. Repeat the other eye. Fast and easy. Jennette ,-- who cannot fathom how anyone can wake up without at least one cup of "strong" coffee asap in the mornings ! Re: eyes plenty moist Great tips, Jen! I don't think we can ever be warned enough about sneaky dry eye. Only thing--those pads aren't that big, are they? Don't you end up using a part that's already touched your eye area in one place on another area or even on the other eye? I think the clean wash cloth that has been washed in bleach with the whites is actually a more sterile alternative because of this--we can use a fresh area every time we put it up to our eyes. Whatever works, though! Like you, I love the steam too! Since I'm not a coffee drinker, my a.m. eye routine is the best part of waking up--lol. 8~} Jennette Braaten wrote: Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Speaking of eyes, I wanted to share something with all of you that I started doing. The dr mentioned that taking a warm compress a couple times a day will stimulate the oil glands in the eyes. Like some of you I was worried about infection from washcloths, so while in the beauty section of Wal-Mart I picked up those cotton make-up remover pads. You get something like 180 in a bag, & makes them. Pure cotton and they dont frazzle at all. In the morning I swish it under hot water, hold to the eye, the steam cleans the oil slick from my nightly ointment, plus its disposable. No re-use, no washing or possible infection from lack of. I dont wear any eye make-up so its great doing this a couple times a day... eyedrops afterwards f course.. Very refreshing and no harm at all! , I was using these pads at first with the Bausch & Lomb saline you mentioned. Loved that stuff, thank u for mentioning it! Plain tissue has fibers that can come off and maybe get in the eye though (I have no feeling in it so that's dangerous) so I was a little nervous. These pads dont have loose fibers, at least the J & J brand do not.. I ran out of saline one morning and used plain hot water... worked actually better, I was shocked.. Then she mentioned stimulating the oil glands with he warm compress. Shoot, two birds with one stone. Jennette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Jenette; Thanks for you post as well as you others. The eye pads mentioned can be warmed in the microwave for awhile too. I use a plastic film like Saran Wrap b-tween the cloth or pad, and a pot holder or like to hold the heat in for 10 min.. This will help in the prevention of styes and chalazions as well. Have a nice day!! Russ Jennette Braaten wrote: Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Speaking of eyes, I wanted to share something with all of you that I started doing. The dr mentioned that taking a warm compress a couple times a day will stimulate the oil glands in the eyes. Like some of you I was worried about infection from washcloths, so while in the beauty section of Wal-Mart I picked up those cotton make-up remover pads. You get something like 180 in a bag, & makes them. Pure cotton and they dont frazzle at all. In the morning I swish it under hot water, hold to the eye, the steam cleans the oil slick from my nightly ointment, plus its disposable. No re-use, no washing or possible infection from lack of. I dont wear any eye make-up so its great doing this a couple times a day... eyedrops afterwards f course.. Very refreshing and no harm at all! , I was using these pads at first with the Bausch & Lomb saline you mentioned. Loved that stuff, thank u for mentioning it! Plain tissue has fibers that can come off and maybe get in the eye though (I have no feeling in it so that's dangerous) so I was a little nervous. These pads dont have loose fibers, at least the J & J brand do not.. I ran out of saline one morning and used plain hot water... worked actually better, I was shocked.. Then she mentioned stimulating the oil glands with he warm compress. Shoot, two birds with one stone. Jennette ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt & Jodi Berlin Hello, I had bilateral acoustic neuroma surgeries in 1982 and since then my right eye does not tear when I cry either (quite dramatic) but the eye produces enough tears to keep it lubricated on a daily basis. Also, when I do vigorous exercise, like aerobics, it looks like someone with a red crayon drew a line down my face and neck. The right side is cool and white, the left side is red and hot (and sweaty as it should be after exercising). I've told doctors of this and they have told me not to worry. I have eliminated vigorous exercise from my lifestyle by personal choice (yippee!) -Jodi new crewmember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Jennette, can i ask what is the eye ointment? Louis has cataracts in both eyes, and an orbital tumor on left. this left eye always looks slightly irritated. a bit of a red rim on bottom eyelashes, and slightly bloodshot in outside corner...AND he always seems to complain of getting something in his eye....(to the point that i was looking onto orbitat apex syndrome, and other bacterial/viral infections that can mimic a tumor) now you have me wonderign if his symptoms are just " dry eye " ???? do dry eyes only becom a problem post-surgery, or can they be a problem pre surgery becasue of cataracts or tumor?Rosemary. Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 cindy here, sounds like dry eye in a way. most of us use artificial tears all day and a heavier ointment at night. the ointment is just mineral oil and petroleum jelly, sounds awfuls huh? it can be bought at any pharmacy, I mean Chemist :-) Maybe try a light artificial tears for him. the heavy ointment is not so fun aand we use only if necessary. Rosemary Lee wrote: Jennette, can i ask what is the eye ointment? Louis has cataracts in both eyes, and an orbital tumor on left. this left eye always looks slightly irritated. a bit of a red rim on bottom eyelashes, and slightly bloodshot in outside corner...AND he always seems to complain of getting something in his eye....(to the point that i was looking onto orbitat apex syndrome, and other bacterial/viral infections that can mimic a tumor) now you have me wonderign if his symptoms are just "dry eye"???? do dry eyes only becom a problem post-surgery, or can they be a problem pre surgery becasue of cataracts or tumor?Rosemary. Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 just re read, sounds a bit different than dry eye, but you never know. Rosemary Lee wrote: Jennette, can i ask what is the eye ointment? Louis has cataracts in both eyes, and an orbital tumor on left. this left eye always looks slightly irritated. a bit of a red rim on bottom eyelashes, and slightly bloodshot in outside corner...AND he always seems to complain of getting something in his eye....(to the point that i was looking onto orbitat apex syndrome, and other bacterial/viral infections that can mimic a tumor) now you have me wonderign if his symptoms are just "dry eye"???? do dry eyes only becom a problem post-surgery, or can they be a problem pre surgery becasue of cataracts or tumor?Rosemary. Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 thanks cindy, curious huh? these symptoms seem to come and go, but always only the tumor eye. (apart from getting things in his eyes, which occurs in both eyes) jsut last weekned we had to do the whole eye bath thing (to get whatever it was out) and i thought this just happens way too regularly for it to be normal, like once a week. becasue with three children , i can compare notes... have thought it might be indicative/caused by him rubbing his eyes, due to irritation, who knows. shall try the light version(he will hate it) and see what happens. also he is very light sensitive(probably cataracts do this, and are exacerbated by this) and won't wear sunglasses. have given up on this one. do' dry eyes' look dry?? what are the symptoms? just re read, sounds a bit different than dry eye, but you never know. Rosemary Lee wrote: Jennette, can i ask what is the eye ointment? Louis has cataracts in both eyes, and an orbital tumor on left. this left eye always looks slightly irritated. a bit of a red rim on bottom eyelashes, and slightly bloodshot in outside corner...AND he always seems to complain of getting something in his eye....(to the point that i was looking onto orbitat apex syndrome, and other bacterial/viral infections that can mimic a tumor) now you have me wonderign if his symptoms are just " dry eye " ???? do dry eyes only becom a problem post-surgery, or can they be a problem pre surgery becasue of cataracts or tumor?Rosemary. Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 The eye ointment I use is called Puralube, Rosemary. It's the same ointment alot of ppl on here with dry eyes use. Re: eyes plenty moist Jennette, can i ask what is the eye ointment? Louis has cataracts in both eyes, and an orbital tumor on left. this left eye always looks slightly irritated. a bit of a red rim on bottom eyelashes, and slightly bloodshot in outside corner...AND he always seems to complain of getting something in his eye....(to the point that i was looking onto orbitat apex syndrome, and other bacterial/viral infections that can mimic a tumor) now you have me wonderign if his symptoms are just "dry eye"???? do dry eyes only becom a problem post-surgery, or can they be a problem pre surgery becasue of cataracts or tumor?Rosemary. Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Geez Tev, you must be psychic or connected somehow..have some info for you re our previous drug talk. BUT, how curious RFA for eyelashes??? Ok, can you see them in your eye, are they growing on the inside of eye rim or what???? > Hi roemary and just want to mention I am having Radio Frequency Ablation > tommorrow for some of my eyelashes that have been growing into my eyes and > until now I ve just had them temporarily removed but this last month I lost > vision because these lashes damged m y cornea and I lost some vision so now > they must be permanently removed in order to protect my cornea from further > damge .Tev Ps You can feel them in your eye and they can be ver > yirritating .Tev > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Ask the question Tev - can RFA be used for NF2 tumours!!!!!!! .... Re: eyes plenty moist Hi roemary and just want to mention I am having Radio Frequency Ablation tommorrow for some of my eyelashes that have been growing into my eyes and until now I ve just had them temporarily removed but this last month I lost vision because these lashes damged m y cornea and I lost some vision so now they must be permanently removed in order to protect my cornea from further damge .Tev Ps You can feel them in your eye and they can be ver yirritating .Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi Roemary and I had about five lashes in each eye removed today with RFA and there is a 50 percent chance they may grow back but i see the doctor in 4 weeksa to check it out and right now i could nt see them because they are on the short side to prevent further damage to the cornea and fill me in on what you wanted to tell me about drug talk . I have been taking theanine also recently and I think it the the same Stuff you mentioned HAS ANTI CANCER PROPERTIES OR MAYBE bARBARA fRANKLIN BRUGHT THAT UP I had read that theanine works synergestically with certain drugs so i thought i might try it with the hydroxyurea but i was glad to read it may do something more .so fill me in on your latest drug research .Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 I have no idea if RFA can be used for NF2 tumors all Iknow about it is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 >Do you think that this theanine is better than just having green >tea. i give Louis green tea for the epigalllocatechins. ok, >tev.ibelieve that we soud be on FTI...farnesy transferesae >inhibitor,,,it is one step closer that how Lovastatin works, more >specific, more targetted, it directly inhibits Ras. will psot on the >crew soon. > Hi Roemary and I had about five lashes in each eye removed today with RFA and >there is a 50 percent chance they may grow back but i see the doctor in 4 >weeksa to check it out and right now i could nt see them because they are on >the short side to prevent further damage to the cornea and fill me in on >what you wanted to tell me about drug talk . I have been taking theanine >also recently and I think it the the same Stuff you mentioned HAS ANTI >CANCER PROPERTIES OR MAYBE bARBARA fRANKLIN BRUGHT THAT UP I had read that >theanine works synergestically with certain drugs so i thought i might try >it with the hydroxyurea but i was glad to read it may do something more .so >fill me in on your latest drug research .Tev > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 If you get a chance ask - or I'll put sugar in your gas tank!!!! )))))) .... Re: eyes plenty moist I have no idea if RFA can be used for NF2 tumors all Iknow about it is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Hi Rosemary and Im not really sure if Theanine is better than green tea or not and Barbara lin posted something about the anti cancer proplerites of choclate caffeine and theophylline . would you or Barbara F know if Theanine is the same thing as Theophylline? They sound very similiar Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Dear ; Was wondering what your secret is in always remembering exactly 4 exclamation marks, 1 semicolon, an 'o' and 6 right parenthesis at the end of you messages. Is that encrypted? smile...Have a nice day!! Russ (still guilty and deserving of flogging); PLEASE, give me more time to come up with the URLs for, ah, Jailor, what was my crime again? --- Cross wrote: > If you get a chance ask - or I'll put sugar in your > gas tank!!!! )))))) > .... > Re: eyes plenty moist > > > I have no idea if RFA can be used for NF2 > tumors all Iknow about it > is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Subject: Re: eyes plenty moist Ohhhh you are too cute :-) Sheryn , running scared...NOT ___________________ It takes years and years of practice - now fined that URL - what ever it was - and get it to me pronto )))))) or or or or I'll think of something. )))))) .... Re: eyes plenty moist> > > I have no idea if RFA can be used for NF2> tumors all Iknow about it > is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev> > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Bri; Did you say go get tanked? kidding... probably easier and more fun than net surfing though. Say, I did find a nice article at: www.braininstitute.com Click acoustic neuromas, read treatments, then click acoustic neuromas towards the left side of the screen. Nice pictures of a 3cm. AN removed totally by endoscopy. Do it now Bri ((((((o: We have to save the world! Really, I hope your day is well. Question of the day: Why do I have to put 10,000 lbs. of pressure on my 'shift' key to create a capitol letter? Russ --- Cross wrote: > It takes years and years of practice - now fined > that URL - what ever it was - and get it to me > pronto )))))) > or or or or I'll think of something. )))))) > .... > Re: eyes plenty moist > > > > > > I have no idea if RFA can be used for > NF2 > > tumors all Iknow about it > > is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Catechins appear to act in several ways as health-preserving compounds. They afford protection from urinary-tract infections, and also protect the skin from the harmful effects of ultraviolet radiation. Some studies have found that they exert a noteworthy anti-inflammatory effect, while others have shown that they help to regulate blood pressure and sugar metabolism. Tea appears to be a useful means of reducing body fat and preventing obesity. The polyphenols in tea have also been found to possess antihistaminic, antiarthritic and antiviral properties. Furthermore, they may help to inhibit the proliferation of various bacterial pathogens in the intestine, notably the bacterium that causes cholera, Vibrio cholerae. They protect the liver from the toxic effects of heavy metals, and, along with caffeine, facilitate ethanol metabolism. Other compounds found in tea include flavonols (quercetin, kaempferol and rutin), xanthines (caffeine, theophylline and theobromine), volatile compounds and theanine, an amino acid peculiar to tea, and all of these are known to be health-enhancing. Theanine, for example, appears to act as a neurotransmitter in the brain and to produce relaxation without causing drowsiness. Hi Rosemary and Im not really sure if Theanine is better than green tea or not and Barbara lin posted something about the anti cancer proplerites of choclate caffeine and theophylline . would you or Barbara F know if Theanine is the same thing as Theophylline? They sound very similiar Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Arrrrr - I thought you said colonoscopy - ouch )))))) Bri.... Re: eyes plenty moist> > > > > > I have no idea if RFA can be used for> NF2> > tumors all Iknow about it > > is they used it for my ingrown eyelashes .Tev> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Jennette- You are the "eye guardian" for the crew, and I thank you for that! How often had you been doing drops and how often are you doing them now? Barbara B. - with water bottle in 1 hand at all times and little eye drops bottle in the other Recently at the eye drs, when I was made aware of a cataract developing in my good eye (the other is blind), I was told to put drops in alot more often. I mentioned to her my eyes seem plenty moist, in fact they drip on occassion they get so moist. two or three drops a day is fine (my tear ducts are lasered shut). At least I thought this was fine. She told me this over-watering was an instinct the eyes will do when they are, get this, dry. What this excess moisture lacks though is the protecting oil film our eyes need, so over time, the cornea scratches. So regardless of the over moist we think our eyes are doing, it will not hurt a thing (in fact help alot) to put drops in often. Once they get bad (and it seems to happen overnight) it's usually too late. It cant hurt to be a little cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Glad I drink lotsa tea.... black no sugar. )))))) .... Re: eyes plenty moist Catechins appear to act in several ways as health-preserving compounds. They afford protection from urinary-tract infections, and also protect the skin from the harmful effects of ultraviolet radiation. Some studies have found that they exert a noteworthy anti-inflammatory effect, while others have shown that they help to regulate blood pressure and sugar metabolism. Tea appears to be a useful means of reducing body fat and preventing obesity. The polyphenols in tea have also been found to possess antihistaminic, antiarthritic and antiviral properties. Furthermore, they may help to inhibit the proliferation of various bacterial pathogens in the intestine, notably the bacterium that causes cholera, Vibrio cholerae. They protect the liver from the toxic effects of heavy metals, and, along with caffeine, facilitate ethanol metabolism. Other compounds found in tea include flavonols (quercetin, kaempferol and rutin), xanthines (caffeine, theophylline and theobromine), volatile compounds and theanine, an amino acid peculiar to tea, and all of these are known to be health-enhancing. Theanine, for example, appears to act as a neurotransmitter in the brain and to produce relaxation without causing drowsiness. Hi Rosemary and Im not really sure if Theanine is better than green tea ornot and Barbara lin posted something about the anti cancer propleritesof choclate caffeine and theophylline . would you or Barbara F know ifTheanine is the same thing as Theophylline? They sound very similiar Tev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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