Re: Re:ASTMA

[Guest guest]

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>I've been careful to use more salt in my meals

I've always been a pathological salter. (Well, OK, not quite

_pathalogical_, but I definitely like my salt. What's interesting, though

in retrospect not surprising, is that I crave less salt now that I've

switched to Celtic.)

> If anyone has suggestions for treating asthma, or experience with the

> water-cure approach--all

>suggestions welcome.

Hydration is definitely important, but I don't think it's the full answer

to allergies and asthma. The mechanism he proposes is just one among

several, I think. Good intestinal health -- which water contributes to --

is probably also of paramount importance in allergies and asthma.

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[Guest guest]

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I have a simple suggestion. Whether or not this is the full answer to

allergies and asthma, why don't you give it a try as laid out by the Doc?

(the salt does not refer to salting with meals and yes Celtic sea salt

has some healing properties of its own). Not saying you are doing this,

but sometimes we can over analyze things (I have been very guilty of this

at times). Why not embrace and try it? What have you got lose? You have

two people on this site telling you it works. You have another two people

telling you that more raw fat works. Why not go for it and jump in with

both feet? After all, no one is going to die from drinking water and raw

fats are certainly beneficial.

Just a thought.

Bianca

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:46:48 -0500 Idol <Idol@...>

writes:

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>I've been careful to use more salt in my meals

I've always been a pathological salter. (Well, OK, not quite

_pathalogical_, but I definitely like my salt. What's interesting,

though

in retrospect not surprising, is that I crave less salt now that I've

switched to Celtic.)

> If anyone has suggestions for treating asthma, or experience with the

> water-cure approach--all

>suggestions welcome.

Hydration is definitely important, but I don't think it's the full answer

to allergies and asthma. The mechanism he proposes is just one among

several, I think. Good intestinal health -- which water contributes to

--

is probably also of paramount importance in allergies and asthma.

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[Guest guest]

Bianca-

>why don't you give it a try as laid out by the Doc?

Actually, I am. In fact even before I read that interview I'd all but

weaned myself off ice water and started doing my best to avoid water at

meals. That last part is awfully hard, though, because I often get very

thirsty. But I hope as my health improves that will correct itself too.

>After all, no one is going to die from drinking water and raw

>fats are certainly beneficial.

The difficulty for me is getting enough raw fat. A friend picked up a load

of raw milk and cream for me in another state, but when it runs out (and

it's almost gone) I don't know when I'll be able to get more. And while

the recipes in NT are superb, there aren't enough that involve raw dishes

with a high animal fat content, and for various reasons I need to eat a

high-fat diet. (Blood sugar, weight loss, etc.) Does AV's book have

raw-meat-raw-fat recipes? I've been curious to read it but too busy, but

if it's chock full of recipes that would be enough to convince me to buy it

immediately instead of putting it off for awhile.

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[Guest guest]

At 06:41 PM 2/26/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>The difficulty for me is getting enough raw fat. A friend picked up a load

>of raw milk and cream for me in another state, but when it runs out (and

>it's almost gone) I don't know when I'll be able to get more. And while

>the recipes in NT are superb, there aren't enough that involve raw dishes

>with a high animal fat content, and for various reasons I need to eat a

>high-fat diet. (Blood sugar, weight loss, etc.) Does AV's book have

>raw-meat-raw-fat recipes? I've been curious to read it but too busy, but

>if it's chock full of recipes that would be enough to convince me to buy it

>immediately instead of putting it off for awhile.

Raw butter is available by mail. Other sources of raw fat are organic

coconuts (really excellent fat) and avocados (tasty fat ;-) and raw chicken

eggs (preferably fertile and free-range fed). Also, if you get the

less-lean cuts of meats (especially ground) they have lots of fat too. I

often ask the butcher for the fat cuttings that come off of the best meats

they carry - and usually it is gratis. I just chew on those fat pieces

when I'm eating other foods. These are nice, suitable alternatives when

raw dairy is not available.

Aajonus Vonderplanitz is currently in the throes of writing his recipe book

- can't say when/if it will be out. The " We Want To Live " book does not

contain many recipes, however, he does have a 8 page recipe list available

for a few dollars. That list covers some meats and miscellaneous stuff

such as home-made mustard. Here's a partial selection: salmon and fresh

dill pate; salmon horseradish pate; avocado and pine nut pate; avocado and

scallop ceviche; chicken salad pate; goat cheese/tomato/pesto torte;

chicken pate; tuna pate; Italian meatloaf; fresh mayonnaise; raw cheese

cake; dreamy banana cream pie; eggnog(s); coconut cream flan; spicy beef

pate; chicken pecan pate. I also know of a raw ice cream recipe floating

around somewhere....

Other recipes should show up in the Group " Live-Food " archives

contributed by list members. Look there for information on butter

availability.

Regards,

-=mark=-

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:41:15 -0500 Idol <Idol@...>

writes:

And while

the recipes in NT are superb, there aren't enough that involve raw dishes

with a high animal fat content, and for various reasons I need to eat a

high-fat diet. (Blood sugar, weight loss, etc.) Does AV's book have

raw-meat-raw-fat recipes? I've been curious to read it but too busy, but

if it's chock full of recipes that would be enough to convince me to buy

it

immediately instead of putting it off for awhile.

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Yes it is tough getting raw fats on a consistent basis without spending a

fortune. My diet ranges anywhere from 50 to 65% fat (depending on the

week) and sometimes it can be a challenge (like I just ran out of raw

cream and forgot to order now I have to wait two weeks!) But avocados and

coconuts count, which you should be able to pick up on a regular basis

locally. Same for olive oil, just make sure it is not processed above

body temperature. You can actually make a very nice coconut cream out of

the meat. With the NT recipes I always use a high fat sauce (and they are

excellent raw sauces that Sally has) with them

AV's book, while a fascinating read, is frustrating at many points, at

least for me. I won't detail that here since it would be off topic. It

does have food combos to use but to describe them as recipes would be a

stretch, IMO. In all fairness some of that is because when you are eating

raw animal foods to regain health it is usually better to keep the combos

as simple as possible. However, I have heard that he is coming out with a

recipe book very soon as well as a revision of his original book. If you

like I can private post you a list of recipes that I have received, you

might find some of them helpful.

You can also join in at the <live food list> and the <primal diet> list.

The Primal Diet list is more exclusively devoted to AV's work, the live

food list is much broader and includes a number of NT people. Be

forewarned, it is a very lively list with some very shall we say

interesting ideas, and a number of people who do not like AV, at least

that is my impression. But its fun to lurk and I have learned some things

since subscribing.

hope this helps!

Bianca