Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 I will preface this with the fact that I respect AV's work very much and it also needs to be acknowledged that this is someone else saying he made these comments regarding raw honey. My experience with raw honey regardless of the enzymes, regardless of the fact that it is raw and regardless of the fact that it is an outstanding food for a healthy person. It still behaves as a simple sugar and is most definetly the last thing I would recommend for someone with a sugar handling problem and or carbohydrate intolerance. Regardless of the carb/protein ratio which I am not certain is accurate in this post, however even if it is. The recommendation to consume it with fat is the dead giveaway that regardless of its good qualities, it still behaves like a simple sugar by being rapidly absorbed and throwing the entire sugar handling mechanism into disarray including but not limited to the pancreas, blood sugar, adrenals, etc., etc... the fat is added as an aid which most definetly will slow down the insanely fast speed at which simple sugars are absorbed. However for someone with a blood sugar and or carb handling problem my clinical experience says this is a bad idea. Sincerely, Dr. Marasco,BS,DC Cincinnati, Oh > >Hiya, > > > >I am a big fan of NT eating, and after hearing someone on the list > >speak about the benefits of raw honey on a raw diet, I was drawn > >here. > > > >I don't have access to high quality raw meat or milk, but I do eat a > >nice amount of raw cheese (yum!). I wanted to add that I am a big fan > >of virgin coconut oil and coconut products in general. > > > >Anyway, I checked the archives and wasn't able to find a definitive > >answer, so I thought I'd ask: I have PCOS and *need* to keep insulin > >levels at a low. Does anyone know whether raw honey is acceptable? > > > >I am not a strict raw foodist in that I eat cooked meat a few times a > >week and (unfortunately) pasteurized dairy, but my diet is > >rather " Paleo " in that I avoid all processed food and there's little > >else left! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 I'm not sure who started this post so I don't know who to address but my remarks are within the body of the message Bianca On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:50:36 -0000 " drmichaelmarasco " <mmarasco@...> writes: I will preface this with the fact that I respect AV's work very much and it also needs to be acknowledged that this is someone else saying he made these comments regarding raw honey. Me: AV hasn't just made these commments but they are clearly written in his book for all the world to see. My experience with raw honey regardless of the enzymes, regardless of the fact that it is raw and regardless of the fact that it is an outstanding food for a healthy person. It still behaves as a simple sugar and is most definetly the last thing I would recommend for someone with a sugar handling problem and or carbohydrate intolerance. Regardless of the carb/protein ratio which I am not certain is accurate in this post, however even if it is. Me: The carb/protein ratio is certainly not the normal view. What is interesting is that years ago I had a beekeeper friend who insisted on the same thing. Said honey had gotten a bad wrap and that it was loaded with protein enzymes but the processing of even raw honey robbed it of its many good properties. He gave me a chart, breaking down the constituent components of the products of the hive (meaning honey, propolis, and royal jelly combined) and he seemed to have a point. I have no idea where that chart is today but maybe someone is aware of similar info or where to go to find it. The recommendation to consume it with fat is the dead giveaway that regardless of its good qualities, it still behaves like a simple sugar by being rapidly absorbed and throwing the entire sugar handling mechanism into disarray including but not limited to the pancreas, blood sugar, adrenals, etc., etc... the fat is added as an aid which most definetly will slow down the insanely fast speed at which simple sugars are absorbed. However for someone with a blood sugar and or carb handling problem my clinical experience says this is a bad idea. Me: No doubt that Mr. Marasco's clinical experience is on the money. But the posts dealing with the use of unheated and unfiltered honey have all been within the context of a diet of largely raw animal foods (85%). Could have been mostly milk or meat or eggs or a combo thereof but that was the makeup of the diet. AV makes the point in his book that honey is responsible for helping to heal all the various organs mentioned above as being negatively affected, and that honey is definitly useful in diabetes. Such definitly jibes with my clinical experience. Also AV believes that raw fats bind toxins and poisions and excess insulin and removes them from the system. Which is one reason he is such a big advocate of raw fats whether or not you include honey or fruit in the diet. Bianca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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