Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks ML....I'm saving this info. Hope you are enjoying your new freedom! Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! liq. oxy. freezing up Freezing UpLiquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds.If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Lou!!! That was very interesting. I'm glad you wrote that because we do struggle with freezing up. Those little tips certainly do make things easier. K IllinoisSher Bauman wrote: Thanks ML....I'm saving this info. Hope you are enjoying your new freedom! Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! liq. oxy. freezing up Freezing UpLiquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds.If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp K Central Il Hubby ipf- 2006 As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Lou...I'm not supposed to...but I have used a hairdryer to warm up the stupid Helios!!!! It freezes up during use especially if I'm really talkative or working on pottery and n ot paying attention to the position of the Helios. I know that heat from the dryer could be a problem. but..so-far so -good!!!! There have been some on this board who have scolded me...so don't tell them! Z fibriotic NSIP/05 Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley Lou wrote: Freezing Up Liquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds. If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hey girls, It seems like all I get done is trying to catch up with posts. I like to read all of them because I learn a lot. The Liquid O2 guy told us to pull down the lever on the portable unit for the count of 20. Then let it go back to the regular position for the count of 10. Pull down for the count of 20 and then back up for the count of 10. Continue until full. We haven't had a freeze up since we started doing that. hugs K Illilnois Zion wrote: Lou...I'm not supposed to...but I have used a hairdryer to warm up the stupid Helios!!!!It freezes up during use especially if I'm really talkative or working on pottery and n ot paying attention to the position of the Helios. I know that heat from the dryer could be a problem. but..so-far so -good!!!! There have been some on this board who have scolded me...so don't tell them! Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Lou wrote: Freezing UpLiquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds.If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM K Central Il Hubby ipf- 2006 As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Z...tell me why "heat" is a problem around the Helios............ Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: liq. oxy. freezing up Lou...I'm not supposed to...but I have used a hairdryer to warm up the stupid Helios!!!!It freezes up during use especially if I'm really talkative or working on pottery and n ot paying attention to the position of the Helios. I know that heat from the dryer could be a problem. but..so-far so -good!!!! There have been some on this board who have scolded me...so don't tell them! Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Lou wrote: Freezing UpLiquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds.If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Sher, It's not heat per say...it's the possibility of sparks!!! Z fibriotic NSIP/05 Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley Sher Bauman wrote: Z...tell me why "heat" is a problem around the Helios............ Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! ----- Original Message ----- From: Zion To: Breathe-Support Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: liq. oxy. freezing up Lou...I'm not supposed to...but I have used a hairdryer to warm up the stupid Helios!!!! It freezes up during use especially if I'm really talkative or working on pottery and n ot paying attention to the position of the Helios. I know that heat from the dryer could be a problem. but..so-far so -good!!!! There have been some on this board who have scolded me...so don't tell them! Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Lou wrote: Freezing Up Liquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds. If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1456 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 6:45 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 That's what I thought, sparks, not the heat but that isn't the way you wrote it and I thought there was a tidbit out there I didn't know about. I really seem to want to go on the liquid but drag my feet because I hate the noise the pulse makes. People turn around when I'm coming as though a snake is after them. l stttttt, stttttt all over the place. I hate to give up my silent regulator. Mama-Sher, age 69.IPF 3/06, NSIP 4/08 OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: liq. oxy. freezing up Lou...I'm not supposed to...but I have used a hairdryer to warm up the stupid Helios!!!!It freezes up during use especially if I'm really talkative or working on pottery and n ot paying attention to the position of the Helios. I know that heat from the dryer could be a problem. but..so-far so -good!!!! There have been some on this board who have scolded me...so don't tell them! Z 64, fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--> Lou wrote: Freezing UpLiquid portables can freeze up after filling, particularly during humid weather. When they do freeze up, the flow of oxygen stops and remains stopped for 10 to 20 minutes. Liquid portables freeze up because extremely low temperatures around the fill port freezes any moisture close by and turn it into ice crystals. These ice crystals cling to the nearby parts on the portable making it too cold to perform normal operations. You can reduce episodes of this type by doing two things: Dry the fill ports of both the reservoir and portable with a towel before connecting them. When filling is complete and the fill lever is closed, allow the portable to remain connected to the reservoir for about 20 seconds before disconnecting. If the two units cannot be separated easily, allow another l20 seconnds before disconnecting. Should the valve of the portable continiue to vent when disconnected, reconnect for 20 seconds.If, after filling your liquid portable unit, oxygen stops flowing you should do the following: Find another source of oxygen to use for the 10 to 20 minutes it will take for the coils to warm and the oxygen to flow. Reduce this recovery time by moving the portable to a place where it is warmer, but never near an open flame. DO NOT touch the fill port of the reservoir or portable. Its temperature is cold enough to cause skin burns. mlp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1456 - Release Date: 5/20/2008 6:45 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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