Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 , I enjoyed reading your observations on the reservation. Sad. I am sure many of them have diabetes, too. I heard a brief radio report recently that mentioned that some kind of program had been started on reservations (not sure where, or how extensive) that was encouraging the Native Americans to go back to a traditional diet. The report specifically mentioned it was being started because the older diet was healthier for them. I believe it was a program to combat diabetes, which is very prevalent in native communities, I understand. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: msjlclaire Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:17 AM Subject: WAP is alive and well and living in... Hi all, I was just in southern Arizona and I went to a famous mission that also happens to be on a current day Indian reservation. I first went to the mission museum. There were many photos of the native people who lived in the area at the turn of the century. Beautiful people with excellent bone structure! The current residents were having an annual Pow-Wow and were selling " native " foods from a long row of stands on the church courtyard. Everyone was selling the same things: Fry bread (a tortilla-shaped puffed bread that is made out of white flour and deep fried in vegetable oil), beef chile, and every kind of canned soda you can imagine. You can probably guess what I noticed in the people selling these items: obesity, acne, and bad teeth. There were exceptions, but these were far and few between. I'd bet my eye teeth that a look into the medical records of many of these people would tell a very sad story as well. I know this is a far cry from a scientific study, but the contrast between the modern-day Native Americans and their ancestors in the photos were so striking to me. Much has been said about the cultural devastation that native people have suffered in this country--it was profoundly disturbing to me to see their physical heritage destroyed as well. I wonder with the cultural and language revitalization in some native communities if there isn't a movement to return to traditional food preparation as well?? The ultimate irony was the way the mission museum presented the heroic " selfless " acts of the Jesuits as they built the mission. Just my thoughts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 , Do a google search for Pima diet. The Pima have the highest diabetes rate in the country, are growing/foraging their traditional foods and adding exercise in an effort to reduce diabetes. IHS, Indian Health Services is finally starting to see some light in respects to SAD and indigenous peoples. Until the errors of the SAD are seen it will be those less adapted that will feel its effects most. Wanita At 01:17 AM 3/12/02 +0000, you wrote: .. Much has been said about the cultural >devastation that native people have suffered in this country--it was >profoundly disturbing to me to see their physical heritage destroyed >as well. I wonder with the cultural and language revitalization in >some native communities if there isn't a movement to return to >traditional food preparation as well?? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 I can't see in this post where WAP lives now. How old is he? Roman --- msjlclaire <jc137@...> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was just in southern Arizona and I went to a > famous mission that > also happens to be on a current day Indian > reservation. I first went > to the mission museum. There were many photos of > the native people > who lived in the area at the turn of the century. > Beautiful people > with excellent bone structure! The current > residents were having an > annual Pow-Wow and were selling " native " foods from > a long row of > stands on the church courtyard. Everyone was > selling the same > things: Fry bread (a tortilla-shaped puffed bread > that is made out of > white flour and deep fried in vegetable oil), beef > chile, and every > kind of canned soda you can imagine. You can > probably guess what I > noticed in the people selling these items: obesity, > acne, and bad > teeth. There were exceptions, but these were far > and few between. > I'd bet my eye teeth that a look into the medical > records of many of > these people would tell a very sad story as well. > > I know this is a far cry from a scientific study, > but the contrast > between the modern-day Native Americans and their > ancestors in the > photos were so striking to me. Much has been said > about the cultural > devastation that native people have suffered in this > country--it was > profoundly disturbing to me to see their physical > heritage destroyed > as well. I wonder with the cultural and language > revitalization in > some native communities if there isn't a movement to > return to > traditional food preparation as well?? The ultimate > irony was the way > the mission museum presented the heroic " selfless " > acts of the Jesuits > as they built the mission. > > Just my thoughts... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 > I can't see in this post where WAP lives now. How old > is he? > > Roman > Roman-- No, he's not really living--I was just amazed that his research findings continue to be " alive and well. " Sorry if my subject heading confused anyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 >From: " msjlclaire " <jc137@...> > > > I can't see in this post where WAP lives now. How old > > is he? >No, he's not really living--I was just amazed that his research >findings continue to be " alive and well. " Sorry if my subject heading >confused anyone! I've heard that he works in a " brothal " across the street from the diner where Elvis flips burgers. Berg _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 I wonder with the cultural and language revitalization in > some native communities if there isn't a movement to return to > traditional food preparation as well?? > > Just my thoughts... > > " Coming Home to Eat:The Pleasure and Politics of Local Food " by Nabhan chronicles his participation in this movement to return to traditional foods of the Southwest. He lives in Arizona and ate mostly local food for one year. The book ends with a long walk (many days and many miles) that he made with many Native Americans in celebration of native foods, and the necessity of these foods for the good health of these people. I thought this book was a fabulous read. Makes me want to go to Arizona and look for all these cactus buds, etc. -Linnea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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