Re: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr. Dean Ornish

[Guest guest]

I have not seen the show yet as I'm a few hours behind everyone else, but

I'll watch it and email. You know, in my book DIET & HEART DISEASE, I

briefly discuss Ornish and his claims. I reprint an advertisement from an

airline magazine for Ornish's products which basically said that the low-fat

diet component of his program is ineffective unless it is combined with

lifestyle changes like meditation. In other words, the low-fat diet he

recommends does dideleydick.

For him to say to 8 million viewers that maragarine is better than butter is

truly heinous. I wonder why Oprah doesn't have alternate thinkers on? She

once had the Eades of PROTEIN POWER fame. Why not Sally or (gasp!) me?!

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

>From: " p_schoenfeld " <p_schoenfeld@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr. Dean

>Ornish

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:31:41 -0000

>

>Attention everyone:

>

>Please email Oprah at Oprah.com if you saw her show today (or even if

>you did not) and tell her about WAP, his work, and our foundation.

>Ornish actually stated that margarine was better to eat than butter,

>and that even olive oil has too much saturated fat in it. Saturated

>fat, according to Ornish, is public enemy #1, with all other fats

>following closely behind.

>

>We cannot let the American people be duped any longer on such a

>public forum.

>

>Let's roll.

>

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[Guest guest]

I tried, but my server couldn't find " Oprah.com " . Is that the right link?

----- Original Message -----

From: p_schoenfeld

Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:31 PM

Subject: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr. Dean

Ornish

Attention everyone:

Please email Oprah at Oprah.com if you saw her show today (or even if

you did not) and tell her about WAP, his work, and our foundation.

Ornish actually stated that margarine was better to eat than butter,

and that even olive oil has too much saturated fat in it. Saturated

fat, according to Ornish, is public enemy #1, with all other fats

following closely behind.

We cannot let the American people be duped any longer on such a

public forum.

Let's roll.

[Guest guest]

--- " Dr. Byrnes " <daxx404@...> wrote:

> I wonder why Oprah doesn't have

> alternate thinkers on? She

> once had the Eades of PROTEIN POWER fame. Why not

> Sally or (gasp!) me?!

>

> All the best,

>

> Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

>

Maybe she will if Sally or you ask to be interviewed.

Develop a relationship with her that would get her

interested in this, and maybe she will invite some of

you for an interview.

Roman

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Oprah is a wise enough woman to see the common sense in WAP and NT. Who knows

it could become the diet that stops her roller coaster weight gain and loss.

Then again she has sponsors to answer to just like all the media. She owns at

least one company too and is respected.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

> Oprah is a wise enough woman to see the common sense in WAP and NT.

At the risk of sounding politically incorrect about something that

has nothing to do with nutrition, Oprah is culturally white. That

means all the common sense and wisdom have been sucked completely out

of her. As a former VIC (vegetarian in college), I can definitely

relate to how a lifetime of trite and heavily recycled magazine

articles will suck the common sense out of anyone.

In hindsight, my best years nutritionally speaking were the ones

after graduating and before coming across WAP. I couldn't out-argue

my veggie friends about meat being healthy, but deep down I knew that

humans are healthier eating meat. Now that I know why, I can't argue

with them unless I want to be really preachy too. I'm actually

feeling slightly proud of myself for not preaching to my vegetarian

friend that I saw for the first time since reading about WAP last

week.

[Guest guest]

-

>Oprah is culturally white. That

>means all the common sense and wisdom have been sucked completely out

>of her.

You think white people have a monopoly on idiocy?

-

[Guest guest]

> -

>

> >Oprah is culturally white. That

> >means all the common sense and wisdom have been sucked completely

out

> >of her.

>

> You think white people have a monopoly on idiocy?

>

no, only the over-educated

[Guest guest]

Oprah has a link where you can suggest story ideas. Let's nominate

Sally, , and Byrnes for a guest panel!

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond

& plugId=B2100004

~ Carma ~

To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

[Guest guest]

I like how you think, Carma

SCB

>From: " Carma Paden " <carmapaden@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr.

>Dean Ornish

>Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:14:33 -0700

>

>Oprah has a link where you can suggest story ideas. Let's nominate

>Sally, , and Byrnes for a guest panel!

>

>https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond

> & plugId=B2100004

>

>

>~ Carma ~

>

>To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

>ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

>and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

>

>Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

>

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

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[Guest guest]

Carma,

This is a great idea! I looked at the page you refer us to below, and had

an idea.

Is there anyone who " has a story " about how WAP ideas and foods have made a

turnaround in his / her health, and would be willing to " be on the show " ?

A personal story might be even more attractive to the Oprah folks.

We all can make our suggestions, but a personal story would be hard to pass

up.

For what it's worth...

" Carma Paden "

<carmapaden@qw

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Subject: RE:

Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest:

03/15/2002 Dr. Dean Ornish

11:14 AM

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Oprah has a link where you can suggest story ideas. Let's nominate

Sally, , and Byrnes for a guest panel!

https://www.oprah.com/plugger/templates/BeOnTheShow.jhtml?action=respond

& plugId=B2100004

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[Guest guest]

>

> Carma,

>

> This is a great idea! I looked at the page you refer us to below,

and had

> an idea.

>

> Is there anyone who " has a story " about how WAP ideas and foods

have made a

> turnaround in his / her health, and would be willing to " be on the

show " ?

> A personal story might be even more attractive to the Oprah folks.

>

> We all can make our suggestions, but a personal story would be hard

to pass

> up.

>

> For what it's worth...

>

that's a great idea ( although I'm still highly pessimistic ). It

got me thinking, and it would also be cool to have some farmers that

produce grassfed meat and dairy come on and talk about how they take

care of their animals and compare their health to those of animals in

feedlots or battery cages.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> It

>got me thinking, and it would also be cool to have some farmers that

>produce grassfed meat and dairy come on and talk about how they take

>care of their animals and compare their health to those of animals in

>feedlots or battery cages.

THAT's an angle that Oprah would certainly go for!

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> it would also be cool to have some farmers that

> produce grassfed meat and dairy come on and talk

> about how they take care of their animals and

> compare their health to those of animals in

> feedlots or battery cages.

This is just my opinion, but I think that would probably best be left to

another show. If you come at an issue from more than one angle, I think you

tend to confuse people. Besides, I think the natural " hook " for the oprah

demographic is going to be the straight-up health and fitness angle. If

there were a good response to a first show with Sally, and Dr Byrnes,

they might be open to subsequent shows that take a deeper look at specific

aspects of it...like the farm issues.

[Guest guest]

Hey, maybe we could tell our story huh?

Janet

that's a great idea ( although I'm still highly pessimistic ). It

got me thinking, and it would also be cool to have some farmers that

produce grassfed meat and dairy come on and talk about how they take

care of their animals and compare their health to those of animals in

feedlots or battery cages.

[Guest guest]

Is there anyone who " has a story " about how WAP ideas and foods have made a

turnaround in his / her health, and would be willing to " be on the show " ?

*** I think this is a great idea and totally support it. However, a small

cautionary tale about the Oprah show: I suffer from a a chronic pain condition

which is very underdiagnosed and about which the public in general knows very

little about (vulvodynia/vulvar vestibulitis -- chronic vulvar pain) . There

are wonderful online lists/sites about this condition and about two years ago

many, many (over 100?) of us wrote in to Oprah with our (very sad and

compelling!) stories. We didn't get anywhere -- she never really responded,

let alone did a show on this topic which affects *lots* of women. Finally ,

she had those two sister gyns (names?) on and they mentioned vulvar pain in

about two sentences and Oprah laughed about it! Funny, but Ann Landers just did

a good column about the condition a few days ago. Again, I totally support

writing in and trying to get Sally et al on the show.. maybe it will work.

By the way, I wrote a letter to the radio host here in Portland who

interviewed Dr. Swank and asked that he interview Sally. He said he is going

to, and that he has had several requests to do so. He said he wrote to the WAP

website. Is this going to work to get him an interview?

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Is your story in the archives? I'd like to read it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Wayne and Janet Brunner

Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:15 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr.

Dean Ornish

Hey, maybe we could tell our story huh?

Janet

that's a great idea ( although I'm still highly pessimistic ). It

got me thinking, and it would also be cool to have some farmers that

produce grassfed meat and dairy come on and talk about how they take

care of their animals and compare their health to those of animals in

feedlots or battery cages.

[Guest guest]

,

Our story is available online at http://www.midvalleyvu.com Click on the

link titled (Our Battle)

Hugs,

Janet

----- Original Message -----

Is your story in the archives? I'd like to read it.

[Guest guest]

Go to Amazon.com and write a negative review of his book. I did and

it was the highlight review for about a month. It has now been

replaced as the highlight review by a review written by one of

Ornish's cronies.

--- In @y..., " p_schoenfeld " <p_schoenfeld@y...>

wrote:

> Attention everyone:

>

> Please email Oprah at Oprah.com if you saw her show today (or even

if

> you did not) and tell her about WAP, his work, and our foundation.

> Ornish actually stated that margarine was better to eat than

butter,

> and that even olive oil has too much saturated fat in it.

Saturated

> fat, according to Ornish, is public enemy #1, with all other fats

> following closely behind.

>

> We cannot let the American people be duped any longer on such a

> public forum.

>

> Let's roll.

[Guest guest]

Alec must be psychic because I was, yesterday, going to post a suggestion

that all of us should write bad reviews of the most popular, but inaccurate,

nutrition books out there. My pics:

The Okinawan Program

The Paleo Diet

Natural Eating

Milk: The Deadly Poison

Diet For a New America

We could also post positive reviews of those books which are closer to the

truth like:

Life Without Bread

Nourishing Traditions

Know Your Fats

The Milk Book

Just a thought.........

SCB

>From: " alecwood " <me@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Oprah Winfrey show, Wed. 3-13, guest: Dr.

>Dean Ornish

>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:10:15 -0000

>

>Go to Amazon.com and write a negative review of his book. I did and

>it was the highlight review for about a month. It has now been

>replaced as the highlight review by a review written by one of

>Ornish's cronies.

>

>

>

>

>--- In @y..., " p_schoenfeld " <p_schoenfeld@y...>

>wrote:

> > Attention everyone:

> >

> > Please email Oprah at Oprah.com if you saw her show today (or even

>if

> > you did not) and tell her about WAP, his work, and our foundation.

> > Ornish actually stated that margarine was better to eat than

>butter,

> > and that even olive oil has too much saturated fat in it.

>Saturated

> > fat, according to Ornish, is public enemy #1, with all other fats

> > following closely behind.

> >

> > We cannot let the American people be duped any longer on such a

> > public forum.

> >

> > Let's roll.

>

All the best,

Byrnes, PhD, RNCP

http://www.PowerHealth.net

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