RE: Rosehips

[Guest guest]

Hi Suze,

Do you buy rosehips when you're in Maine? Ever been to Ogunquit Beach? The

Marginal Way is lined with beach rose full of rosehips in late October or so.

If you don't want to go help yourself we've got rosa rugosa that will have

hips

this year. Not certified organic but I use nothing close to a chemical. Weeds

are food here.

Wanita

>On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:30:20 -0500 " s.fisher22 " <s.fisher22@...>

>writes:

>***Do you think that would include *rose hips* that are harvested in

>China,

>but may be manufactured and distributed in S. Africa? <snip>

[Guest guest]

>>>>Hi Suze,

Do you buy rosehips when you're in Maine? Ever been to Ogunquit Beach? The

Marginal Way is lined with beach rose full of rosehips in late October or

so.

If you don't want to go help yourself we've got rosa rugosa that will have

hips this year. Not certified organic but I use nothing close to a chemical.

Weeds

are food here.

****Hi Wanita,

I'm always in Maine I buy rose hips at my local health food store, I buy

them from Scientific Botanicals, and I buy cili bao, the most remarkable

rose hip from China I mentioned earlier. Thanks so much for your kind

offer...I appreciate it. But there are no local rose hips with the unique

qualities of cili bao to my knowledge. In fact, I guess it's like a number

of herbs across the planet in that it has some very unique biochemical

properties that are not found in similar species elsewhere. Maybe a

combination of the soil in the mountain ranges of mainland China where it's

found, it's evolution in that area, the water and perhaps the climate all

conspire to make it what it is, as the elements here in Maine conspire to

make our rosehips what they are. Cili bao, as I mentioned, has the highest

concentration of SOD known of *any* plant. Not just of any rosehip, but of

any plant. Additionally, the SOD in cili bao is largely resistant to stomach

acid degredation, so much more is absorbed than other sources of SOD. It's

thought that the high SOD content is what makes it so helpful to cancer,

arthritis and other degenerative diseases. I first learned about it from

Marty Goldstein, DVM, author of " The Nature of Animal Healing. " Dr.

Goldstein is well-known for his expertise in alternative cancer therapies

for dogs and cats.

My brother's dog, Dock, has spondylosis. He had a major operation last year

on his fused bone (lower spine). He seemed to be recovering OK, but then he

became stiff again and was in pain. He may have injured himself in the same

area that was operated on, we're not sure what actually happened. His pain

became so bad that he was yelping. I designed a diet/supplement protocol

that featured high doses of cili bao (spondylosis is one of the conditions

it's recommended for). Shortly after adding cili bao to Dock's diet, along

with a few other dietary supplement adjustments, Dock seemed to no longer be

in pain. Then he became more mobile. That was 5 months ago. My brother

reports that he is MUCH more mobile than last winter, is playing with

younger dogs, goes for long walks and seems to be pain free.

While it could be any number of things that have helped Dock go from a poor

quality of life to a very good one, I think the cili bao is a major factor

in Dock's mobility and lack of pain. And I imagine the high SOD content has

much to do with it. Cili bao does contain a good amount of natural vit C,

other vitamins, a number of amino acids and trace minerals...maybe it's the

combination of nutrients that's proving to be so helpful in a number of

diseases. Anyway, I just don't think any local rose hip would have such a

healing effect, as the biochemical makeup is different. But I do believe in

supporting local farmers/gardeners and in buying local herbs whenever

possible and when they would be equal to or better than a product that is

not local

More info from the website where I purchase Cili Bao

http://www.vet2pet.net/holistic/index.php

http://www.vet2pet.net/holistic/testimonials/index.php

http://www.vet2pet.net/holistic/faq/index.php

(manufacturer's web site)

http://www.cili-bao.co.za/

My main concern with it, is the processing as I mentioned earlier. I was

told by my supplier that it meets S. African organic standards...but I don't

know if that translates to no pesticides, no herbicides, no sprays

I plan to look further into it.

Suze Fisher

Web Design & Development

http://www.suscom-maine.net/~cfisher/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

At 07:45 PM 3/19/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Cili bao, as I mentioned, has the highest

>concentration of SOD known of *any* plant.

What is SOD?

Thank you.

-=mark=-

[Guest guest]

>>>What is SOD?

**I just posted this! LOL

OK, here it is again:

Superoxide Dismutase - an antioxidant enzyme that 'neutralizes' superoxide,

the most common free radical in our bodies.

Suze Fisher

Web Design & Development

http://www.suscom-maine.net/~cfisher/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

Interesting as I'd looked into spondylosis after seeing it mentioned in a book

and relating that it could be either a current or future possibility

separately

or with my husband's scoliosis from an accident in '85. Had found this on

vitamin c and spondylosis.

<http://www.soilandhealth.org/02healthlibrary/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21s

tcentury/020122ch16.html>http://www.soilandhealth.org/02healthlibrary/0201h

yglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/020122ch16.html

Norman Cousins, a veteran journalist and author, created a great deal of

awareness in the medical profession about the power of the mind affecting the

course of a disease with his book Anatomy of an Illness (Bantam, 1979), in

which

he described how he overcame a so-called " terminal " disease called " ankylosing

spondylitis " by removing himself from hospital, declining medical treatment,

and instead spending his time watching old comedy movies, meditating, resting,

and taking megadoses of vitamin C. He was on his feet again in eight days and

he was able soon afterwards to resume work and play tennis and golf again.

That

all happened in 1964, and so impressed were some of Cousin's influential

doctor

friends that he ended up lecturing on the mental aspect of medicine at the

University of California, Los Angeles.

Its an old book but definitely worth consideration.

Wanita

At 07:45 PM 3/19/02 -0500, Suze wrote:

Cili bao, as I mentioned, has the highest

>concentration of SOD known of *any* plant. Not just of any rosehip, but of

>any plant. Additionally, the SOD in cili bao is largely resistant to stomach

>acid degredation, so much more is absorbed than other sources of SOD. It's

>thought that the high SOD content is what makes it so helpful to cancer,

>arthritis and other degenerative diseases. I first learned about it from

>Marty Goldstein, DVM, author of " The Nature of Animal Healing. " Dr.

>Goldstein is well-known for his expertise in alternative cancer therapies

>for dogs and cats.

>

>My brother's dog, Dock, has spondylosis. He had a major operation last year

>on his fused bone (lower spine). He seemed to be recovering OK, but then he

>became stiff again and was in pain. He may have injured himself in the same

>area that was operated on, we're not sure what actually happened. His pain

>became so bad that he was yelping. I designed a diet/supplement protocol

>that featured high doses of cili bao (spondylosis is one of the conditions

>it's recommended for). Shortly after adding cili bao to Dock's diet, along

>with a few other dietary supplement adjustments, Dock seemed to no longer be

>in pain. Then he became more mobile. That was 5 months ago. My brother

>reports that he is MUCH more mobile than last winter, is playing with

>younger dogs, goes for long walks and seems to be pain free.

>Suze Fisher

>Web Design & Development

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