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Subject: Re: Letter to the editor

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:27:58 -0600

From: " Wayne and Janet Brunner " <wajabrun@...>

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Tim - what an awesome letter! When you get mad you really let it

out don't you? Good thoughts though, and very informative!

Wayne and I are impressed!

By the way - I see you sent this to the native nutrition list

also - but it never arrived. Part of your address was missing -

it should be you missed the

word groups in there. Please try again - I think the people

there would love to read this!

Janet

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From: " Clearview Acres " <clearvu@...>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:46 AM

Subject: Letter to the editor

>From TimWightman

Clearview Acres

Hayward Wi.

I find Mr. Leitzkes memory very selective when it comes to the

issues

concerning the Memorandums of Understanding(MOU) he personally

spent 6

months revising to set up the first farm that ran the program

that HE

devised to offer cow shares to people who want the CHOICE to

drink raw

milk.

I also find it interesting that Stienhoff who butchered

the

original MOU from Leitzke to serve Clearview Acres clients as the

2nd

MOU farm has not said a thing on how gapping holes were left in

the MOU

as for protocols, segregation and transfers of ownership

requirements.

I find it interesting that Carolyn Gallager has been very quite,

She

illegally gave out Clearview Acres printed material to OTHER

farms

interested in the MOU program without so much as an explanation

to those

farmers other than " call Clearview they will explain the program

to

you!! "

I find it interesting that it was Clearview Acres who approached

DATCP

on introducing Safety Protocols, testing regimes, and controls

over the

program to insure the safety of the MOU program and its current

and

future clients.

You decided to cancel the program. Now it has been implemented by

all

Milk Direct farms without Datcap's input.

Does your lawyer Mr Marquart know of your actions prior to the

Administrative Hearing Mr Leitzke?, probably not, if all the info

he has

is that he turned over to us, or should I say lack of information

turned

over to us!

I agree most Grade A milk is not fit for direct consumption, the

current standards only lend it to be made into cheese, or now UT

pasteurization.

We the Milk Direct farms all around the country adopted the raw

milk

standards of Pa And California, we test on a quarterly basis for

8

pathogens and do a milk wholesomeness test biweekly.

Our levels of plate count scc and coliform as well as pi are as

follow

in order, under 10,000(program farm average 3000) under

200,000,(program

farm average 135,000) coliform under 10, PI under 50,000.

Whats your Wi grade A standards for milk Mr Lietzke?

As for our so call Raw Milk Campylobacter outbreak that

supposedly

originated from this farm, Where is the proof!!

You say you have documents and tests that prove that you can link

that

outbreak to this farm , Where is it?

Where is the epodemiology report due on the 4th of Jan that still

has

yet to be released?

Where is the COMPLETE documentation that you Mr Lietzke,

Stienhoff and

Ms Gallager were ordered to turn over to us and our lawyers by

the

administrative law judge on the 12th of February.

I do not consider the incomplete stack of un unauthorized

documents

delivered in a rubber band to my lawyer office as a true

representation

of that you were ordered to turn over.

I find it interesting that Mr. food safety doesn't even know how

many

people we were charged with getting sick in the Hayward area.

Mr Leitzke says 5, His report 3 months ago said 24, we called our

clients and found 8 that tested positive and 355 that didn't even

get

sick.

Of all the clients and family members who showed symptoms (24)

and not

all family member who drank milk became sick, we narrowed down

the

contamination source to several GROUND BEEF dinners at a local

restaurant all eaten within a 4 day period, by the 8 people in

question

4 to 8 days prior to our little towns outbreak.

I find it interesting that you did not, nor did you bother to

even look

any further than our farm or interview those who got sick other

than to

badger those who claimed not to drink milk from our farm when

they went

to the doctor for help!

Infact another 35 people who were treated in your time frame of

involvement were not identified as to where THEY got sick

I find it interesting that after you had sufficient numbers to

issue

your special order to stop our clients from exercising there

constitutional rights of ownership, you abandoned the local

health

service even though new cases of Illness CONTINUED to be treated

6 WEEKS

after our milk was banned from our clients, and none of those

people

have even been to our farm.(and don't give me that secondary

exposure

crap either, these people don't even come into contact with those

who

were sick to begin with!)

And did you bother to call surrounding are Hospitals to see if

there

were other cases of this type of illness during the same time

frame? We

did, 4 area hospitals reported treating the same illness in the

same

time frame as our little towns outbreak. We don't serve those

area's.

Were those hospital warned of a possible campylobactor outbreak?

I would guess not, You wouldn't do more testing on our milk

either

because you " might compromise your original findings " !(direct

quote of

your lawyer, Mr Marquart)

Did you know those towns those hospitals serve, are served by the

same

food service company as our town is?

If your sole purpose at Datcp to protect the public from food

borne

illness you better take a look at the true cause of those

illnesses in

its country!

80 million people a year Mr. Leitzke get sick from food in this

country

alone!

FDA considers 5% of All raw milk produced in the US to be

contaminated

with 1 of a possible 8 pathogens.

FDA considers 50% of all chicken 74% of all turkey(down from 91%

2 years

ago) contaminated with Campylobacter ALONE! 37% of beef

contaminated

with E-coli.produced in the US.

We consider DATCPS food safety division contaminated with large

Agribusiness concerns, and if anyone thinks this Task Force on

food

safety( which we were not ask to be involved in even though we

the Milk

Direct farms represent 1400 people in Wi alone) is going to

effect

change on the safety of your food! Get real. It will only

compromise

your choices and eventually your health, and the death nail of

the small

producer in Wisconsin.

Mr. Leitzke And Datcp Food Safety Division concerned about food

safety?

Doesn't look like it from here.

Tim Wightman

Milk Direct Program

Hayward Wi.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tim,

Did you already send this letter? Which publication was it directed to?

Did they publish it?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

it was in response to one of the directors of our ag department who made

personell attacks on our farm in regards to our milk direct program in which

they started and now want to dissapear even though the state statutes support

direct sales within Wi.

You can view what i responed to at midvalleyvu.com go to " our fight " and the

news paper links and check out march 16th.

Thanks tim

Kroyer wrote:

> Hi Tim,

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> Did you already send this letter? Which publication was it directed to?

> Did they publish it?

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> Thanks!

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