Re: Here it is Val, I know Sunday can be a busy day for you

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Was he sleeping those hours when he took the testing? If so that may be

WHY they look so out of whack. Can you post his results again please?

Sleeping late can make the AM cortisol rise MUCH later than it would in

people that get up early. But doies he not need to get up earlier for

school?

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[Guest guest]

Was he sleeping those hours when he took the testing? If so that may be

WHY they look so out of whack. Can you post his results again please?

Sleeping late can make the AM cortisol rise MUCH later than it would in

people that get up early. But doies he not need to get up earlier for

school?

No Val, he wasn't. He was getting up at 8 am as per my advice and doing the spit

tests at the appropriate times. His 4 pm one as 20 minutes late as he forgot and

I mentioned this to you at the time and you said it was not significant.

Cannot find a copy of his ASI right now as I am about to go out the door for

dinner. In a file somewhere..... I DO try to be organised and then when I look

for the thing I have organised I cannot find it....

He needs to get up early one or two mornings a week for university. The other

days he does what his body wants to do and that is sleep till lunchtime and then

he goes to bed 1 or 2 am or so. And cannot get to sleep.

Not an unusual pattern in university students of his age but his reasons are to

do with adrenal fatigue as well as student lifestyle.

OK I found a copy of the ASI.

Bear in mind the range is different here in UK. goes from 12 to 33 (actually I

think there is a copy of his ASI in the Files Section - that is how I got it to

you originally as I could not send attachment).

So if you can access that it may be easier to understand as you can see it on

graph form. I always find it easier anyway if I can see a thing.......

So his 8 am level is 7

non is is midrange at 20 (not over the range as I thought) and it kind of stays

in a flat line until 4 pm which makes it go over the range about 3 pm. He says

that is when he feels his best, noon to 3 pm.

Then it stays over the range and lowers to about 8 at midnight.

The DHEA (range 12 to 29) is

25 at 8 am

just below range at about 7 at noon

shoots up to 23, over range, at 22

then lowers to about 18 at midnight.

Appreciate your help with this.

Mo

Re: Here it is Val, I know Sunday can be a busy day for

you

Was he sleeping those hours when he took the testing? If so that may be

WHY they look so out of whack. Can you post his results again please?

Sleeping late can make the AM cortisol rise MUCH later than it would in

people that get up early. But doies he not need to get up earlier for

school?

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Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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>>No Val, he wasn't. He was getting up at 8 am as per my advice and doing the

spit tests at the appropriate times.<<

What I mean was he USED to sleeping later in the Am say the day before and day

after? The body's cortisoll rythm can be chnged by sleeping differnt hour than

the norm. Say someone that works midnight shift. Their 8Am saliva draw shoudl be

about an hour after they wake at say 11PM and their cortiolsl shoudl be in the

HIGH 8Am range at that time of night as that is morning FOR THEM. If your son

usuwally slept till 11 AM then his noon should be used as an AM test.

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