Re: big differences between blood and saliva thyroid labs

[Guest guest]

to make any sense of these we need the saliv a Free T3 too.

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[Guest guest]

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> my thyroid serum levels results from 5 weeks ago

>

> tsh 1.55 ( 0.34-5.60)

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> ft4 0.86 (0.58-1.64)

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> unfortunately they didnt test my ft3

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> now my saliva labs done just this last week show much higher tsh

> and ft4

>

> tsh 73 normal 26-85

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> ft4 0.42 normal 0.17-0.42

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> any idea which one would be more accurate and why the tsh and ft4

> would come out so much higher just a month later with the saliva? Im

> baffled here and could really use some opinions. thanks

>

oops forgot my saliva free t3,,,,,it was ft3 was very low at 0.34

normal 0.28-1.10

[Guest guest]

val,,,what doesnt make sense to me is why my tsh and ft4 levels are

higher in saliva than in blood when I was shown to have stage 5

adrenal fatigue with low cortisol. I would think the results would

have been the opposite. Im not sure whether I should medicate my

thyroid according to the blood results or the saliva results. my low

normal ft4 levels in blood would indicate armour being a good

med,,whereas the saliva results coming in high normal at ft4 and low

normal at ft3 would indicate a straight t3 med being the choice. Im

not sure which way to go here

>

> You are looking at two d9ffernt things wiht blood and saliva labs. In

> the blood wher all the hormones just float around waiting to be used or

> in the saliva where they have actually entered the tissues and are

being

> utilized. High in blood and low in tissue for thyroid means low

cortisol

> as it is preventing the tissue uptake of thyroid. Low in both means you

> simply need mroe thyroid. T3 will especially be high in blood and

low in

> saliva when you have low cortiosl. High cortisl will result in high T4

> and low T3 as well even in blood as the body cannot convert well with

> high cortiosl.

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[Guest guest]

WIth high tissue levels of T4 I would assume you have conversion

problems. That si why it si in the tissues for them to convert it ot T3

it is not. SO you do nto need ot pump more T4 in there a sit is nto

doing you any good, I would tend to go to straight T3 for this or the

body will start making RT3 to get rid of exces T4 be itin the blood or

tissues.

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[Guest guest]

yea,,,,I agree. I wish I would have waited for the saliva results

before purchasing armour. its sitting here on my shelf collecting

dust. cytomel is the usual t3 med correct? guess Im going to have to

purchase me some

>

> WIth high tissue levels of T4 I would assume you have conversion

> problems. That si why it si in the tissues for them to convert it ot T3

> it is not. SO you do nto need ot pump more T4 in there a sit is nto

> doing you any good, I would tend to go to straight T3 for this or the

> body will start making RT3 to get rid of exces T4 be itin the blood or

> tissues.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

[Guest guest]

I use Cynomel from Mexico and find it does a good job. If you can get a

scripot it would be Cytomel in the USA.

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[Guest guest]

holy moly that stuff is expensive. more than double the cost of

armour. do you think it would be that dangerous if I tried armour

first and just switched to cytomel if I didnt get good results?

>

> I use Cynomel from Mexico and find it does a good job. If you can get a

> scripot it would be Cytomel in the USA.

>

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>

[Guest guest]

>>holy moly that stuff is expensive. more than double the cost of

armour. do you think it would be that dangerous if I tried armour

first and just switched to cytomel if I didnt get good results? <<

It si not dangerous at all and if it doesn;t work in releivin ghypo symptoms in

say 6 months you can then have RT3 tested and see if that has become a problem.

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[Guest guest]

sounds good. thank you

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> >>holy moly that stuff is expensive. more than double the cost of

> armour. do you think it would be that dangerous if I tried armour

> first and just switched to cytomel if I didnt get good results? <<

>

> It si not dangerous at all and if it doesn;t work in releivin ghypo

symptoms in say 6 months you can then have RT3 tested and see if that

has become a problem.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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