RE: To Gail

[Guest guest]

HI Gail,

This sounds trite but it's really true: Danny is so fortunate to have a

mom like you who is proactive and can act quickly to get him the help he

needs. You also sound very non-judgemental, another plus for your son.

Good luck to you,

Lesli (Bay Area)

[Guest guest]

Gail I'm sorry if I came across wrong. How I meant it is that I also had

fears when Rudy was little. I guess I was trying to make the point that they

proved to be groundless. I dont think you're an idiot and I do think you are

a wonderful and caring mom or otherwise you wouldnt care about how you were

feeling. Putting it all out there is a very brave thing and just proves that

you want to do all you can for your child. I think you are a remarkable mom

and I am so sorry if you got any other impression. God bless and take care.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/16/00 9:30:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pastmidvale@... writes:

<< We weren't foster parents when we joined the list. We have been foster

parents since six months after we married almost 34 years ago. But for four

years we worked at milton Hershey School as House Parents.

Now we have returned to our first love as semi retirees. We are actully we

are quite selfish. Since Elie cannot make fiends on his own, we have

imported friends for him to live with as he will when he is grown - house

brothers and sisters.

Each child has something to offer the others and all learn from each other.

Some days it is just like I visualized it and some days it is sheer hell!!

today was a realatively good day except for our foster son not undestanding

when Elie MUST BE ALONE. Interesting is that he never hits them.

Sara >>

Sara, That is so cool! How many kids do you have? I have always wanted to

do that. My husband thinks I'm nuts. LOL Not only are you doing a good

thing for those kids, but helping your son too! I am bowing at the mention

of your name! LOL

Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

Just wondering how things are going with the Topamax-- and altogether with --finding a therapist, etc. Haven't heard an update in a while..

Ellen

[Guest guest]

Dear

I guess the flying trip will have to be a virtual one for now. This list

is the greatest. But I can also feel that the old time practice of dropping

in to help one's neighbor had to be helpful and I only wish we could get some

sort of equivalent to it.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Dear Gail,

I'm so glad that your surgery went well, and you survived with your

sense of humor still intact!

you wrote:

as a result of " better living through pharmacology " I remember

> very, very little about the surgery or the 12 hours that followed it. So the

> joke was on me - got the oeace and quiet but don't remember any of it!

Ha ha! Irony is still alive and well in the universe! Thanks for the

good tip about visualization.

Take good care - I hope that you are recovering nicely,

Lesli

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Thanks for all those hugs, I needed them. I too watch in horror as

people are looking for loved ones and not knowing. That not knowing almost

did me in Tuesday. Geez, I thought I knew what nightmares were, living with

ocd. (I don't mean to offend anyone-ocd can be a nightmare too when you are

participating in your child's rituals and are not in the right treatment.)

Thanks for your suggestions for my sister. I think she is already

showing a little survivor's guilt-she said she would have gladly traded

places with a parent who didn't get out (she's single and childless). The

hospital I work at is having 'sessions' on dealing with all of this-I am

going to take advantage of them. Also see if I can get her to come. I will

see if I can't find someone for her to talk to, (Dr. Fitz would be my first

choice, but that's not an option right now). And yes I will go with her.

She was so supportive to me when I had to take Mike to Dr. Fitz in the city

in rush hour. Mike's first appt. got me a 'little' anxious, and she came

over and drove with me. Several times that first week, until I completed my

exposure therapy to city driving in rush hour!!! And when I went to my

first appt. with Jon Grayson, she met me at his office-then we went to

dinner. She really is supportive-I don't know what I would have done

without her-only she and Dr. Fitz knew that I was starting treatment and

why. (TTM,checking, hoarding...but that's not ocd, is it?!!!!!!!!). So

it's the least I can do for her.

I am taking care of myself-with a little help from Ben and Jerry's ice

cream!! Again, thanks. Hugs to you, in NJ

> ,

>

> {{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}}} What a nightmare of a day for you! We have

> watched in horror as people come to term with the tragedy AND the

realization

> that they may not know their loved ones fate for several weeks/months. I

am

> so happy that your sister is okay.

>

> Please make sure she has good, solid people to talk to so that the

horror

> and even survivor guilt may be vented and the healing can begin for her.

You

> may want to look into resourse for her and also accompany her there.

>

> Like the rest of the world, we celebrate your sister's grateful

survival

> and mourn the hundreds who perished. Take good care of yourself.

>

> Gail in N'Awlins

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[Guest guest]

Gail:

THANKS so much for your support; it's great to know you're not alone. I'm

going to print your reply to me so I can read it when I need it (probably

every day for a while). I have been trying to get on the treadmill every

day, but lately it hasn't been regular enough. I am reading " Harry Potter "

and loving it -- the first non-OCD book I've read since 's diagnosis 3

yrs. ago!!!! (it's about time). I'm almost done with the third book and am

looking forward to the fourth -- we're seeing the movie this weekend for

's birthday.

The in-laws are here for the weekend so I might miss the IM on Sunday night.

Tamra

[Guest guest]

Happy Birthday, Gail. Did you figure out what day it was?

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

[Guest guest]

>

> Just a little encouragement here...

>

>

Thanks, Daddybob. I really needed to hear something like this. May I

ask how much CS did your freind's wife drink daily? How much is one

suppose to drink of this stuff? I've been BEing daily for about 4

months, but only for an hour. After starting on the CS I have been

doing the full Beck protocol. Just don't have anything to lose at this

point. Before I'd always just done BEing and MPing. Now I'm doing it

all.

Thanks again. LOve you, gail

[Guest guest]

IV Ozone with multi wave oscillator stimulation helps MS patients and on one

occasional led to an 18 year old leaving her wheel chair after 4 days of

treatment.

Your report about CS is interesting & we will try it.

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To Gail

Just a little encouragement here...

An e-friend of mine's wife is bedridden with a particularly severe form of

MS. This fellow is highly educated, intelligent and articulate, so much so

that I often wonder why he corresponds so much with a southern redneck like

me who is one generation removed from sharecroppers and gandy dancers

(railroad track installers).

He was for a while a medical office manager and you just wouldn't believe

all the covered-up research that he has been able to uncover. There is

practically nothing out there in the alternative field, particularly in the

various fields of magnetic/electro therapy, that he hasn't investigated

deeply. There are many other disciplines he is vary familiar with as well.

He did all this to try to find a cure for the woman he loves dearly.

I constantly thought he was missing the simple things, particularly in light

of his dwindling finances. I exhorted him to try many things, and one of

those was colloidal silver. It just seemed that he was thanking me but

always heading in a different direction. I was a little frustrated and was

beginning to withdraw since I felt I wasn't being listened to.

I'll make no attempt at hiding my own financial near-destitution when I fell

backwards into alternative health/medicine. I had given up and would have

done nearly anything to help myself, but I could only do those things that

took the very least of my time and money. MSM came first, but when I knew I

had to go further, I went into CS.

CS, I've said many times, stopped the chronic bodily pain* I was living

with. MSM had kept me functional, but after 6 months I knew it was only

covering up the pain. I was spending a LOT of money on HUGE doses of MSM to

keep going. (*CS did not help my actual injury pain, and there was still

plenty of that.)

So back to my friend...I think he reached the point of giving up, realizing

that he didn't have the resources to keep chasing the *Boys-Toys* cures. His

wife was running out of time.

**By Boys-Toys, I mean all the high tech gadgets we are all familiar with.

I'm not knocking them, not a one of them, but no man can deny that we men

are always google-eyed over machines, and I think that gets in the way of

our healing sometimes. I spent considerable time researching all the

machines myself, but I had the ingrained business experience borne of

scrambling hand-to mouth living that said: " Do the best with what you got;

Do I want it, Do I need it, Can I afford it? All three answers must be yes

before I buy it. " Most of the time my answer was no.

OK back to my friend again. He finally tried CS. It has been working. She

has regained some use of some of her limbs and extremities. He has been

thanking me ever since. I really didn't do that much.

Daddybob

PS- my youngest daughter is a junior in high school. I started getting

really sick about the time she entered school, so I know how you feel on

that account. I missed a terrific amount of time with all our kids during

that time, and even was unable to properly care for them at times. Somehow

they turned out great.

[Guest guest]

Gail-

I think she is drinking about a pint a day. That was how much (at least,

maybe more) I was drinking for about 3 months when I started getting my

relief. Actually the pain relief came within a few weeks. After a few more

weeks I started having water-blister-like lesions to appear suddenly in odd

places, but especially on my legs on the shins and calves near the ankles.

I had read enough by that time to understand that wheatever it was that I

had, it was coming out to the skin. It was being chased to the areas of the

body with the least blood circulation, places where the only tissue is

ligament. It left pocked scars where it came out.

There's a lot more to the story after that. My recovery started taking a

wild turn with an iodine injection (myelogram) and intensive use of a Beck

unit. But I think that CS and BE-ing would have eventually gotten me to the

same place with less trauma. Traumatic or not, I needed for things to happen

that way in my life at that time. The speed in my recovery coincided with my

need to catch up my financial life. But other than that, I wouldn't wish on

anybody what happened to me in the next several months.

So keep up with everything you're doing Gail, and drink at least a pint of

CS a day.

Daddybob

[Guest guest]

Evening Daddybob,

I am only drinking 12oz. daily simply because that is the size of my

glass that I make it in. I make a glass in the evening and drink it

the next day...some when I get up, then around noon, and again about

4 oclock. I am actually craving this stuff. I think I could easily

drink the whole glass in one try.

I wanted to share what I'm experience in only these few days. With

cfids there is sometimes a real nauseated, ick feeling. It's like

waves of sickness will just engulf me. That's the best way I can

explain it, and that's only one symptom. Anyway, sometimes there are

these waves of sickness that overcome me, and I will just start

crying. I feel real ick. For some reason, it seems to be worse from

noon to around 4-5. Today I started feeling really sick about noon.

I drank the CS and not only does it make the nausea go away, but it

feels like life is being poured into me. That lasted for a few hours

and then again around 4ish the sick waves engulfed me again. I

gulped some more CS and the same thing happened! I don't understand

what all this stuff is doing, but it's doing something very

profound. I feel like if I can get enough of it saturated in my

system, then I'll be able to pull myself out of this relapse.

I also wanted to share how I feel when I am BEing. As long as I have

the juice turned on, there is some energy. It's not the get up and

go kind of energy, just not as sick feeling energy. But as soon as I

turn the juice off, it's like the lights went out...no more energy,

and I take a real nose dive.

For whatever it's worth, I just wanted to share my experience so

far. Again, thank you so much for the words of encouragement. It

really did mean an awful lot.

Gail

-- In , " ransley "

<ransley@a...> wrote:

>

> Gail-

>

> I think she is drinking about a pint a day. That was how much (at

least,

> maybe more) I was drinking for about 3 months when I started

getting my

> relief. Actually the pain relief came within a few weeks. After a

few more

> weeks I started having water-blister-like lesions to appear

suddenly in odd

> places, but especially on my legs on the shins and calves near the

ankles.

>

> I had read enough by that time to understand that wheatever it was

that I

> had, it was coming out to the skin. It was being chased to the

areas of the

> body with the least blood circulation, places where the only tissue

is

> ligament. It left pocked scars where it came out.

>

> There's a lot more to the story after that. My recovery started

taking a

> wild turn with an iodine injection (myelogram) and intensive use of

a Beck

> unit. But I think that CS and BE-ing would have eventually gotten

me to the

> same place with less trauma. Traumatic or not, I needed for things

to happen

> that way in my life at that time. The speed in my recovery

coincided with my

> need to catch up my financial life. But other than that, I wouldn't

wish on

> anybody what happened to me in the next several months.

>

> So keep up with everything you're doing Gail, and drink at least a

pint of

> CS a day.

>

> Daddybob

>

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Just a sense here,but have you considered a parasite cleanse, and also bowel

liver,kidney? Maybe you have or haven't as yet looked up www.curezone.com

for cleanses, but I think there may be some good information in there for

you.

Sasha

-- Re: To Gail

Evening Daddybob,

I am only drinking 12oz. daily simply because that is the size of my

glass that I make it in. I make a glass in the evening and drink it

the next day...some when I get up, then around noon, and again about

4 oclock. I am actually craving this stuff. I think I could easily

drink the whole

[Guest guest]

...seems like you might try 12 0z of CS 3 times a day? What have you

to to lose, Gail?

BE'ing is a nerve sedative, in my experience to some extent.

And...a 30k hertz clark zapper really makes you feel wonderful while

you use it, but it's like aspirin, the effect is palliative, not

notably therapeutic (I know there are cases where it has apparently

worked. I'm just speaking of my own experience using it while trying

to deal with sinuses, which it did not finally help, the godzilla

sinus mask did help that, and I've not gotten them back).

bG

>

> Evening Daddybob,

>

> I am only drinking 12oz. daily simply because that is the size of my

> glass that I make it in. I make a glass in the evening and drink it

> the next day...some when I get up, then around noon, and again about

> 4 oclock. I am actually craving this stuff. I think I could easily

> drink the whole glass in one try.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ..seems like you might try 12 0z of CS 3 times a day? What have you

> to to lose, Gail?

>

bG, Do you or anybody else know how much is too much? People report

anywhere from drinking 1tsp. to a pint. I've never heard of drinking

36 oz. daily? But then again I'm just starting to pay attention to CS

preports. Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail,

There seems to be no upper limit short of drowning yourself.

I suggest staring at http://silverlist.org to have your concerns

addressed.

Chuck

Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humor.

On 10/23/2005 1:18:54 PM, wanda85929 (wanda85929@...) wrote:

>

> >

> > ..seems like you might try 12 0z of CS 3 times a day? What have you

> > to to lose, Gail?

> >

>

> bG, Do you or anybody else know how much is too much? People report

> anywhere from drinking 1tsp. to a pint.

> I've never heard of drinking

> 36 oz. daily? But then again I'm just

> starting to pay attention to CS

> preports. Gail

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -----------

[Guest guest]

There's a study that used a lot, then measured what the body

ejected. It showed the body got rid of virtually all of it.

If you make clear-quality stuff, like I do using my SilverGen sg6 at

a low setting, the particle size is really small, almost as small as

that made with AC commercial devices. I'm guessing that 5ppm really

small particles would all be ejected at 36 oz per day. I forget the

name of the guy who ran that test, but he really did a number on

collecting up all the ejected silver.

Well,,,good luck/

bob

> > >

> > > ..seems like you might try 12 0z of CS 3 times a day? What

have you

> > > to to lose, Gail?

> > >

> >

> > bG, Do you or anybody else know how much is too much? People

report

> > anywhere from drinking 1tsp. to a pint.

> > I've never heard of drinking

> > 36 oz. daily? But then again I'm just

> > starting to pay attention to CS

> > preports. Gail

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----------

>

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Was this for me?

Sue B.

>

> Sue I accidently erased you email address. Please resend your request

> for Dr.

> Thanks,

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry this took so long. Went to my grandchild's 5th birthday.

No you cannot get Minocin with that script but I would call and ask anyway.

There are also sites you can get Minocin without a script. I don't have them

anymore but maybe someone here has some of the sites and can help you.

Good luck!

This may sound like a stupid question, but my doctor has pretty much

refused to give me a prescription for minocin - he says it is not necessary.

Can

I obtain minocin from Canada with only a prescription for minocycline? I'm

sure I already know the answer - just inquiring. Thank you.

Gail