Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 VITAMIN D INFORMATION Vitamin D has very profound effects on all aspects of your health. Please look over this information and decide if this is something you should pay (more) attention to. Current research indicates vitamin D deficiency plays a role in causing 17 varieties of cancer (breast, prostate etc.), heart disease, stroke, hypertension, autoimmune diseases, diabetes, depression, chronic pain, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, muscle weakness, muscle wasting, birth defects and periodontal disease. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------------------- For all my research during my successful recovery from stage IV non-hogkins lymphoma, it has only been recently that I came upon this information about how important it is to maintain adequate levels of vitamin D. I was tested and found out that I was seriously deficient. My test showed 27 ng/ml. The VA hospital told me I was in " normal " range . . . hardly! I am now taking 5,000 IU of D3 daily. I will get retested to see if I am raising my level to an acceptable range. You never want to be at the low end of " normal " if the goal is to be at least in the middle or better. Please get tested so that you know where you stand and what you could be doing to get into the " safe " target range. Dave Perkins, Cancer survivor " enjoy being " http://www.vitamindcouncil.com Is a nonprofit site, hosted by Dr. Cannell, MD, dedicated to educating people to the importance of maintaining adequate levels of Vitamin D. It contains many well referenced studies relating to this topic. Here is the introductory statement from this site: Understanding Vitamin D - Cholecalciferol The high rate of natural production of vitamin D3 in the skin is the single most important fact every person should know about vitamin D because it has such profound implications for the natural human condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 THANKS MIKE Mike Patton <drmike47@...> wrote: This may be useful to somebody. My wife has been putting A & D cream on her shoulder where she has a tumor. When they did the biopsy they discovered that it was somewhat differentiated. I read a few articles and Vit D can reduce tumor growth in rats. It seems in my wife the cartilage is the cancer cell type. They don't have receptors to Vit D (in adults) except when the cell is in stress. I suspect cancer can cause a cell to be in stress. My wife is also on a somewhat caloric restriction; it seems to help rats reduce there tumors. My family is going to get alot of sun this summer. Maybe even 50,000IU per day. I hope FDA doesn't find out. This won't be useful but I wanted to express my feelings. A tumor broke thru her humerus bone 2 Dec or so. The first doctor wanted to remove the arm, the second from the elbow to shoulder, the last one just the shoulder and part of the humerus bone. After the biopsy he decided to remove only the humerus head and do a basically something like a hip replacement. My wife has steadily gotten better since 2 Dec. The pain in very low like a 1 compared to a 9. She has almost all of her movement back to the arm. It seems to me if u feel a lot better than an operation is not necessary. But at last she makes the decision on her treatment. It seems in this country you cannot choose your treatment. It is whatever a particular doctor does best, and what FDA likes. Insurance cards only pay for FDA stuff, and AMA keeps the doctors in line. If u try and get a second opinion, may god help u; it is tough. It's probably better to go to a lawyer; he'll look it up and tell u what the doctor has to do or else. Also, it seems cancer should be treated first as a metabolic disorder then as a cut and destroy operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Kathy, I have SLE & I started taking 4000IU's of Vitamin D daily based on recent research & I think it helps me particularly in areas of fatigue. I think that Vitamin D is proving to be of enormous value in many conditions. Patrice _____ From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:19 AM rheumatic Subject: rheumatic Vit D Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit D or not. Thanks. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi Kathy; I have several friends on MP and am thinking of doind so myself.Not everyone has a vitamin D problem and that is why you have to get a proper test done.If your 25D to 1,25D ratio is correct you can supplement and eat food with it.Avoidance of D is only until those people get their ratios corrected Kathy wrote: > Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says > NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how > most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit > D or not. Thanks. Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Lynne, what is the optimum ratio? Thanks, Re: rheumatic Vit D Hi Kathy; I have several friends on MP and am thinking of doind so myself.Not everyone has a vitamin D problem and that is why you have to get a proper test done.If your 25D to 1,25D ratio is correct you can supplement and eat food with it.Avoidance of D is only until those people get their ratios corrected Kathy wrote: > Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says > NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how > most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit > D or not. Thanks. Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi ,the ratio should be somewhere aroud 1 to 1.4 max Ken and wrote: > Lynne, what is the optimum ratio? > > Thanks, > > Re: rheumatic Vit D > > Hi Kathy; > I have several friends on MP and am thinking of doind so myself.Not > everyone has a vitamin D problem and that is why you have to get a > proper test done.If your 25D to 1,25D ratio is correct you can > supplement and eat food with it.Avoidance of D is only until those > people get their ratios corrected > > Kathy wrote: > > > Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says > > NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how > > most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit > > D or not. Thanks. Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 It's me again ,I forgot to mention that most D tests are done only for D25 which often show " low " but the D1,25 could be sky high and that is why they say to avoid it until things are balanced Ken and wrote: > Lynne, what is the optimum ratio? > > Thanks, > > Re: rheumatic Vit D > > Hi Kathy; > I have several friends on MP and am thinking of doind so myself.Not > everyone has a vitamin D problem and that is why you have to get a > proper test done.If your 25D to 1,25D ratio is correct you can > supplement and eat food with it.Avoidance of D is only until those > people get their ratios corrected > > Kathy wrote: > > > Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says > > NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how > > most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit > > D or not. Thanks. Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi, Kathy: I like vitD very much, but SOME drugs can cause it to become toxic for us, even some of the antibiotics, but especially sulfasalazine; I just don't know about Beincar. This may be the reason for the MP proscription. Regards, Kathy <sunbriar@...> wrote: Hi Id like to know what people think about Vit D. I know the MP says NO vit D, no sun etc. but now Im reading all this stuff saying how most people are difficient of vit D. So Im not sure about to take vit D or not. Thanks. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 why not get both D levels tested and then make your decision about whether you need D or not? the details for proper testing are on the MP site. i had both mine tested and 25 were normal and 1-25 was very high so i stay away from D. remember that D is a hormone not a vitamin and can act as a steroid so that initially large doses can make you feel better but then like a steroid you will eventually get worse. monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Well said. I am on M/P and have had my D-25 and D-125 tested several times. I am now in the correct ratio and doing very well. Dolores Sauve <moniquesauve@...> wrote: why not get both D levels tested and then make your decision about whether you need D or not? the details for proper testing are on the MP site. i had both mine tested and 25 were normal and 1-25 was very high so i stay away from D. remember that D is a hormone not a vitamin and can act as a steroid so that initially large doses can make you feel better but then like a steroid you will eventually get worse. monique --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 > > > I was just wondering if anyone on this program gets their Vit D levels checked? From what I've been reading most doctor's are not even familiar with this test or the results. How do we know if we are taking too much, so they say too much can be as bad as not enough ..... I take around 1400 mg a day now, is that too much? +++Hi Maddy. My goodness, taking 1,400 IU per day couldn't possibly be too much! Dr. Mercola's article How Sunshine and Vitamin D Can Help You Eliminate Mercury (that I posted this week) states: " In the summertime, when you put on your bathing suit and sunbathe for 30 minutes, your body produces about 20,000 IUs of vitamin D; as much as exists in 200 glasses of milk, or the equivalent of about 50 multivitamins! " Even Dr. Mercola recommends as much as 4,000 IU per day of vitamin D, however I believe that is too much, since again all nutrients work together and there are many other sources of vitamin D in the diet. I believe people can be misled by testing vitamin D levels, particularly while the body is still healing, and working on re- balancing itself. That is because all of the nutrients work together, so decreasing or increasing one because of a test, will throw off many others as well. The levels I recommend are safe and not too much they will throw off nutrient balances. Eventually the body will balance itself out naturally. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Sunlight! <smile> Garnet ingridplenty wrote: > > > > hi all... > Doc McCandles told me to take large doses vit D.... > does anyone in Australia know of a natural supplememnt.. > Regards Ingrid/aus > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 Hi Ingrid...I take Dr.Mercolas Vit D spray, 3 sprays morn and night.....Jill From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of ingridplentySent: Wednesday, 27 May 2009 1:45 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Vit D hi all...Doc McCandles told me to take large doses vit D....does anyone in Australia know of a natural supplememnt..Regards Ingrid/aus No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.41/2136 - Release Date: 05/26/09 20:20:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 You can OD on it (supplements), but if you get it from the sun, you can't OD. Einstein once said, " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of the truth " . ________________________________ From: Hampton <jghampto@...> Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 10:33:45 PM Subject: [ ] Vit D What is the downside of vit d? I'm not sure if that comment was out of context or Vnot. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 > What is the downside of vit d? Too much vitamin D caused massive headache here, so be sure to start slowly. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/10/Vitamin-D-Experts-\ Reveal-the-Truth.aspx [ ] Vit D What is the downside of vit d?? I'm not sure if that comment was out of context or Vnot. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I am also interested in people's experience with Vit. D. In a message dated 10/22/2009 5:33:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, depaepev@... writes: I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Are you on the Marshall Protocol? I know a few who have been on it from another board and it's true Trevor M is so against Vit D. Then just the other day a person reported that he is worse than ever and he's been on the MP for 1.5 yrs or so as I recall...he's spitting mad at what he's been thru on MP. [low dose naltrexone] Vit D I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.26/2451 - Release Date: 10/22/09 08:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 My major experience with Vit D3, is after 6 months of 4K IU daily, the depression I was dealing with lifted. I continue 5K IU's of D3 daily and it's been over 2 yrs. I was pretty deficient in late 06. No MP here. I feel Vit D3 is vital for me. But I had come in majorally from the SUN I enjoyed all my earlier life. I deal with OA and some FM, and chronic myofascial pain, but it's bearable. I take no major meds for this stuff, all supps. Only aspirin to take the pain edge off. MSM powder daily in higher doses for pain too. Re: [low dose naltrexone] Vit D I am also interested in people's experience with Vit. D. In a message dated 10/22/2009 5:33:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, depaepev writes: I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I cant imagine any regime being good for you if vit D is banned! Mine is really low and I feel terrible. It makes your bones ache and you feel exhausted. Getting it to the correct numbers is a long slow process too. No MP for me! > > Are you on the Marshall Protocol? I know a few who have been on it from another board and it's true Trevor M is so against Vit D. Then just the other day a person reported that he is worse than ever and he's been on the MP for 1.5 yrs or so as I recall...he's spitting mad at what he's been thru on MP. > > > [low dose naltrexone] Vit D > > > I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.26/2451 - Release Date: 10/22/09 08:51:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 maybe some daily sun would do much better than any supplements anyway, I dunno, I only take B1 with my LDN, and Magnesium every 3 days. I also have Super B Complex that has 100 MG B1 in it, I put them in the mix instead of a B1. That's it. I wonder about Vit D anyway, is it mostly a result of processing uv's? then supplements may just not do as well as some real sunlight. this is an LDN group, any Vit D comments are just hearsay and off topic I do believe, there's other ldn groups that go further jmho ymmv hand [low dose naltrexone] Vit D I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I was on the Marshall Protocal and got cured of lyme. The MP theory is some people with illnesses, have a disfuction of vitamin D. Where your body takes all the D and turns it right away into d-125 which is a problem.So those people should stop D, tempararily while on the MP.I was very sun sensitive while on MP [Minocin can cause this], but as I got better, that went away.To me that was an indication of healing. I have no sun sensitivity,now. There is no one size fits all. Vitamin D supplements for some, my help short term, but kill you long term.You need to read and understand the theories of Dr Marshall, and see if they apply to you. If you have 10 min a day in the sun, this should be enough D, natually. If you need to supplement, you might have a problem. If you are not sick, with a D disfunction, D supplements will probably not hurt you, and might help. Look at it like pregnisone, it might be fine for an acute problem, it stops thethe immune system from over reacting,and allows the body to recover. But, it should be for a short period of time, if chronic illness, Preg. may cause harm,and make things worse, overall. Be informed. From: low dose naltrexone on behalf of depaepevSent: Thu 10/22/2009 5:33 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Vit D I am new to this group. Have been on LDN for three months with no decrease in pain or fatigue. Vitamin D suppliments have been recommended several times, but in the Marshal Protocal it says to avoid all Vit D. I am confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 This is not so according to many sources, ten minutes is not enough, and for most people when they are out in the sun they are wearing clothing that covers too much skin. 20 minutes of noon day summer sun is more like it. Hard to get enough D from sunlight, according to the majority of sources. I am not an authority but have been reading up on D since it is suggested for flu prevention. Personally I am taking 10,000 iu a day using the D3 micro tabs from Vtiamin D3 World. Tasteless and dissolve easily under the tongue. Garnet ------------------ Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone LDN_Information Dr Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN Ron Ball wrote: > If you have 10 min a day in the sun, this should be enough D, natually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 My son's holistic MD is a huge believer in the benefits of Vitamin D supplementation. He wanted my son's Vit D level (via bloodwork) to be in the 70s (I forget what unit of measure that would be - some standard blood test). My son takes 3 capsules of BioTech D3-5 (cholcalciferol) 5000 IU per capsule every day. I know that sounds extreme, but we started out at 1/day - minimal change - 2/day - little more - 3/day - bumped up to desired level of 75. We are doing so many other measures to improve my son's IBD (and related anemia and possible adrenal problems) that it is difficult to tell what the Vit D alone did. But my son is doing much better overall, so I would think it's helped in some way. I've also read high Vit D levels are crucial to fighting the flu. Just our experience. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Dr McCandless suggests 10,000 iu D3 for a month then droping to 5,000 iu a day maintenance. If you get the flu some are saying to take 50,000 iu for three days. I have even read of taking more than this in active flu infection, up to 200,000 iu short term though. www.vitD3world.com has a newsletter and articles on D3. Garnet ------------------ Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone LDN_Information Dr Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN Beatty wrote: > > > My son's holistic MD is a huge believer in the benefits of Vitamin D > supplementation. > He wanted my son's Vit D level (via bloodwork) to be in the 70s (I > forget what unit of measure that would be - some standard blood test). > > My son takes 3 capsules of BioTech D3-5 (cholcalciferol) 5000 IU per > capsule every day. I know that sounds extreme, but we started out at > 1/day - minimal change - 2/day - little more - 3/day - bumped up to > desired level of 75. We are doing so many other measures to improve my > son's IBD (and related anemia and possible adrenal problems) that it is > difficult to tell what the Vit D alone did. But my son is doing much > better overall, so I would think it's helped in some way. > > I've also read high Vit D levels are crucial to fighting the flu. > > Just our experience. > > Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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