Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 D Enise I really think the progesterone and cal and d made more of a difference in my bone mass. May I suggest you have a dexa (if your insurance allows) now. Keep having them as long as you frequently as you can to test how your meds are doing. I also would tell them what you are on. I think they only write it down for refrence, they don't do anything different for different meds. Let me know if you have any changes. Also do you do any weight bearing exercises. I think that makes a big difference. Cooky rinking mothers who later develop osteoporosis. Enough of that.... did you tell your doc that you were taking strontium before your scan (like they suggested in the article)? And where do you live in PA? I live in Westminster, MD. I lived in Yeadon, PA (right outside of West Philadelphia) for 4 years, and I lived in burg for 2 years. My oldest son was born in Philadelphia in 1982 at Booth Maternity Center. Thanks for all the advice again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Well that's great to know. I started all those things about a year ago. Amy C Stonkey wrote: > > D > > Enise I really think the progesterone and cal and d made more of a > difference in my bone mass. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 wiccantwinpaths, You completely misread my statements. 1) Nowhere did I suggest whether somebody should or should not discuss something with their doctor. 2) If you can discuss everything with your doctor, good for you. 3) I stated that most of today's doctors have not even heard about strontium. If your doctor does, that makes him the one in a thousand and you have a winner. 4) I mentioned my degree and profession only to assure the reader that I have a solid knowledge on the subject and did'nt hear about strontium at last night's coctail party. 5) This forum is for patients who help each other with their problems and experience. It has given many patients help and hope. We can guide each other and find practical solutions. 6) A comprehensive description of the strontium history and use is available at Vitamin Research Products (vrp.com). Written by Dean Ward, MD, it is one of the best referenced summaries. To find the site, go to vrp.com, in the SEARCH field select ARTICLES and type STRONTIUM in the subject window. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ________________ wiccantwinpaths wrote: > > And your PhD in chemistry makes you a better judge of when a person > should discuss something with their doctor??? > > My experience with doctors is that as an educated consumer it is > totally possible to bring up something that they are not familiar > with, but that only gives them nudge to learn about it. > > I always discuss things with my doctor, and I would never trust > anyone who tells me not to bother because they know more than any > silly brain washed doctor. > > The leaflet on the European approved osteoporosis medication says > this: > > You should stop taking PROTELOS if you have to take oral > tetracyclines or quinolones (two types of antibiotics). You can take > PROTELOS again when you have finished taking these antibiotics. If > you are unsure about this ask your doctor or pharmacist. > > The non approved supplements say they haven't been evaluated and > aren't medicine. > > The studys clearly show that the best benefit is only in the 1st > year, and that it goes down in benefit after that ... being only > minimal beneficial after 5 years. > > I strongly suggest that anyone who wants to take a supplement like > this, with such a clear short life and clear warnings NOT to use it > at the same time as tetracyclines should discuss it with their > doctor. And while they may not know anything about it at the > beginning, they will most likely either learn or refer you to someone > who can. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good - What strengthof Strontium should I look for? What > > > is a good > > > > daily dose when on 12.5 mg of Prednisone/day? > > > > Jan > > > > > > > * * * * * > > > > > > Calcium is an interactive with Tetracyclines that needs to be > > > discussed with your doctor. Since this isotope so easily > substitutes > > > for calcium. I think it would be a good idea to discuss it with > your > > > doctor first. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium>> > > > > > > Sixteen unstable isotopes are known to exist. Of greatest > importance > > > are 90Sr with a half-life of 28.78 years and 89Sr with a half- > life of > > > 50.5 days. > > > > > > 90Sr is a by-product of nuclear fission which is found in nuclear > > > fallout and presents a health problem since it substitutes for > > > calcium in bone, preventing expulsion from the body. This isotope > is > > > one of the best long-lived high-energy beta emitters known, and is > > > used in SNAP (Systems for Nuclear Auxiliary Power) devices. These > > > devices hold promise for use in spacecraft, remote weather > stations, > > > navigational buoys, etc, where a lightweight, long-lived, nuclear- > > > electric power source is required. The 1986 Chernobyl nuclear > > > accident contaminated a vast area with 90Sr. 90Sr confined inside > a > > > concave silver plaque is also used for the medical treatment of a > > > resected pterygium. > > > > > > 89Sr is a short-lived artificial radioisotope which provides a > health > > > benefit since it substitutes for calcium in bone. In circumstances > > > where cancer patients have widespread and painful bony metastases > > > (secondaries), the administration of 89Sr results in the delivery > of > > > radioactive emissions (beta particles in this case) directly to > the > > > area of bony problem (where calcium turnover is greatest). The > 89Sr > > > is manufactured as the chloride salt (which is soluble), and when > > > dissolved in normal saline can be injected intravenously. > Typically, > > > cancer patients will be treated with a dose of 150 MBq. The > patient > > > needs to take precautions following this because their urine > becomes > > > contaminated with radioactivity, so they need to sit to urinate > and > > > double flush the toilet. The beta particles travel about 3.5mm in > > > bone (energy 0.583 MeV) and 6.5mm in tissue, so there is no > > > requirement to isolate patients who have been treated except to > say > > > they should not have any one (especially young children) sitting > in > > > their laps for 10-40 days. The variation in time results from the > > > variable clearing time for 89Sr which depends on renal function > and > > > the number of bony metastases. With a lot of bony metastases, the > > > entire 89Sr dose can be taken up into bone and so the entire > > > radioactivity is retained to decay over a 50.5 day half-life. > > > However, where there are few bony metastases, the large > proportion of > > > 89Sr not taken up by the bone will be filtered by the kidney, so > that > > > the effective half-life (a combination of the physical and > biological > > > half-life) will be much shorter. > > > > > > Precautions > > > > > > In its pure form strontium is extremely reactive with air and > > > spontaneously combusts. It is therefore considered to be a fire > > > hazard. > > > > > > Effect on the human body > > > > > > The human body absorbs strontium as if it were calcium. Due to the > > > elements being sufficiently similar chemically, the stable forms > of > > > strontium do not pose a significant health threat, but the > > > radioactive 90Sr can lead to various bone disorders and diseases, > > > including bone cancer. The strontium unit is used in measuring > > > radioactivity from absorbed 90Sr. > > > > > > An innovative drug made by combining strontium with ranelic acid > has > > > aided in bone growth, boosted bone density and lessened vertebral, > > > peripheral and hip fractures.[4][5] Women receiving the drug > showed a > > > 12.7% increase in bone density. Women receiving a placebo had a > 1.6% > > > decrease. Half the increase in bone density (measured by x-ray > > > densitometry) is attributed to the higher atomic weight of Sr > > > compared with calcium, whereas the other half a true increase in > bone > > > mass. It means that strontium ranelate creates new, stronger bone. > > > Strontium ranelate (marketed under the trade names Protelos, > Osseor, > > > Protos, Bivalos, Protaxos, Ossum) is registered for treatment of > > > osteoporosis in many countries all over the world. Strontium > ranelate > > > has been shown to strengthen bones, according presentations given > the > > > IOF World Congress on Osteoporosis, in June of 2006. It also > reduced > > > bone resorbtion. > > > > > > Strontium ranelate is registered as a prescription drug in Europe > and > > > many countries worldwide. It needs to be prescribed by a doctor, > > > delivered by a pharmacist and requires a strict medical > supervision. > > > Currently, (early 2007) it is not available in Canada or the > United > > > States. > > > > > > Several other salts of strontium such as strontium citrate or > > > strontium carbonate are often presented as natural therapies and > sold > > > at a dose that is several hundred times higher than the usual > > > strontium intake. Despite the lack of strontium deficit > referenced in > > > the medical literature and the lack of information about possible > > > toxicity of strontium supplementation, such compounds can still be > > > sold in the United States under the Dietary Supplements Health and > > > Education Act of 1994. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 The Wikipedia reference is mixing up radioactive strontium (toxic) with the stable forms. There are differences in opinions about the best dose... however, most everyone agrees that the safety has been supported. Strontium is a common element which is naturally found in your bones. Studies show supplementation with Strontium in its various forms is well tolerated and completely safe. Strontium lies directly below calcium on the periodic table of elements and that makes calcium, strontium and magnesium all in the same chemical family. They are all naturally occurring metals found in the soil, in foods, and in your body. As an alkaline earth element, strontium is similar to calcium in its absorption in the gut, incorporation in bone, and elimination from the body through the kidneys. Strontium is naturally present in trace amounts with around 100 micrograms in every gram of bone.... http://www.algaecal.com/strontium.html Amy wiccantwinpaths wrote: > > > > Calcium is an interactive with Tetracyclines that needs to be > discussed with your doctor. Since this isotope so easily substitutes > for calcium. I think it would be a good idea to discuss it with your > doctor first. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium> > > Sixteen unstable isotopes are known to exist. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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