Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 i was on methtrexate for months, had lots of hair loss and felt even worse, plus didn't want it in my body, so quit. last 3 years been on prednisone. feel awful and don't go out. methtrexate did give me some of my life back and i was able to do things, but i don't want that stuff back in my body. i'm hoping AP will turn my health around. sally rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Hi Hadia. You will get nowhere trying to treat the symptoms. Treat the cause of the disease and the symptoms will go away by themselves. Putting more toxic drugs into your system will just make you more toxic and you will develop more symptoms. You are on a vicious cycle and need to stop. Find the cause of your illness and treat that. If it is of infectious origin, antibiotics would help that and detox all those chemicals. Dolores From: Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> Subject: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss rheumatic Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:27 PM  Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have  been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 No matter how toxic we feel that Methotrexate is, I don't think she can go off this suddenly. Must be tritrated down, mustn't it? rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss rheumatic Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:27 PM Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Not necessarily. A lot of people just stop. cooky From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Sltfain@... Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:31 PM rheumatic Subject: Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss No matter how toxic we feel that Methotrexate is, I don't think she can go off this suddenly. Must be tritrated down, mustn't it? rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40> Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:27 PM Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 i did. sally rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>; Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 3:27 PM Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Hadia, yes you probably will flare if you stop them both. Stopping just methotrexate.I'm not sure. You really need to call your doc and ask him. Sorry cooky From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of Hadia Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:27 PM rheumatic Subject: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Hadia, I went off MTX in March, I was fine for about 4 weeks and then WHAMO! Well I learned the very hard way that MTX was helping me after all. I know that'll really tick people off here but for me it's true. I went back on and I did have lots of hair loss but it did subside and now just normal hair loss. Sue ---- Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> wrote: > Hi everyone , > I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have  been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hi Sue, This group are very open people, so I doubt if it will tick people off....you just giving how it works for you, and giving each of us more information. Yes, methotrexate was helping me, and rhemy wanted to add two more " cocktails' to help me respond more. Not only was it the hair loss, but my research of these drugs to make my decision not to want them in my body. That was 3 yrs ago and I've not done well with my RA. Did I make the right decision?? Do I think of going back on drugs....yes, yet i always felt that there was something out there that could actually put me into remission. Thank God I found out about AP and this site. It's a tough road to get to wellness and remission.....but the last 4 years have been a tough road. Thanks for your imput and hope these drugs are helping you to have a better life. sally Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hadia, I went off MTX in March, I was fine for about 4 weeks and then WHAMO! Well I learned the very hard way that MTX was helping me after all. I know that'll really tick people off here but for me it's true. I went back on and I did have lots of hair loss but it did subside and now just normal hair loss. Sue ---- Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> wrote: > Hi everyone , > I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thanks Sally. I do wish AP worked for me but after 1 1/2 years I had to throw in the towel because my kids were 7 and 10, they needed me. Hope you are getting good results with AP. I don't like these (MTX etc.) drugs either, very bad but there came a point where I had to decide whether I wanted quality or quanity. Very sad. Sue ---- mannasal@... wrote: > > Hi Sue, > This group are very open people, so I doubt if it will tick people off....you just giving how it works for you, and giving each of us more information. Yes, methotrexate was helping me, and rhemy wanted to add two more " cocktails' to help me respond more. Not only was it the hair loss, but my research of these drugs to make my decision not to want them in my body. That was 3 yrs ago and I've not done well with my RA. Did I make the right decision?? Do I think of going back on drugs....yes, yet i always felt that there was something out there that could actually put me into remission. Thank God I found out about AP and this site. It's a tough road to get to wellness and remission.....but the last 4 years have been a tough road. Thanks for your imput and hope these drugs are helping you to have a better life. sally > > > > > > > Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss > > > > > > Hadia, > > I went off MTX in March, I was fine for about 4 weeks and then WHAMO! Well I learned the very hard way that MTX was helping me after all. I know that'll really tick people off here but for me it's true. I went back on and I did have lots of hair loss but it did subside and now just normal hair loss. > > Sue > ---- Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone , > > I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Be aware, you can't stay on MTX forever without risking side effects. MTX may help alleviate the symptoms but does nothing to eliminate the cause of your disease, and think what it is doing to your body. Here is what the NIH has to say about MTX: " Important Warning: Methotrexate may cause very serious side effects. Some side effects of methotrexate may cause death. You should only take methotrexate to treat life-threatening cancer, or certain other conditions that are very severe and that cannot be treated with other medications. Talk to your doctor about the risks of taking methotrexate for your condition. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had excess fluid in your stomach area or in the space around your lungs and if you have or have ever had kidney disease. Also tell your doctor if you are taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID) such as aspirin, choline magnesium trisalicylate (Tricosal, Trilisate), ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin), magnesium salicylate (Doan's), naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn), or salsalate. These conditions and medications may increase the risk that you will develop serious side effects of methotrexate. Your doctor will monitor you more carefully and may need to give you a lower dose of methotrexate or stop your treatment with methotrexate. Methotrexate may cause a decrease in the number of blood cells made by your bone marrow. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had a low number of any type of blood cells or any other problem with your blood cells. Your doctor may tell you not to take methotrexate unless you have life-threatening cancer. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: sore throat, chills, fever, or other signs of infection; unusual bruising or bleeding; excessive tiredness; pale skin; or shortness of breath. Methotrexate may cause liver damage, especially when it is taken for a long period of time. If you drink or have ever drunk large amounts of alcohol or if you have or have ever had liver disease, your doctor may tell you not to take methotrexate unless you have a life-threatening form of cancer because there is a higher risk that you will develop liver damage. The risk that you will develop liver damage may also be higher if you are elderly, obese, or have diabetes. Tell your doctor if you are taking any of the following medications: acitretin (Soriatane), azathioprine (Imuran), isotretinoin (Accutane), sulfasalazine (Azulfidine), or tretinoin (Vesanoid). To decrease the risk of developing liver damage, do not drink alcohol while you are taking methotrexate. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: nausea, extreme tiredness, lack of energy, loss of appetite, pain in the upper right part of the stomach, yellowing of the skin or eyes, or flu-like symptoms. Your doctor may order liver biopsies (removal of a small piece of liver tissue to be examined in a laboratory) before and during your treatment with methotrexate. Methotrexate may cause lung damage. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had lung disease. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: dry cough, fever, or shortness of breath. Methotrexate may cause damage to the lining of your mouth, stomach or intestines. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had stomach ulcers or ulcerative colitis (condition in which part or all of the lining of the intestine is swollen or worn away). If you experience any of the following symptoms, stop taking methotrexate and call your doctor right away: mouth sores, diarrhea, black, tarry, or bloody stools, or vomit that is bloody or looks like coffee grounds. Taking methotrexate may increase the risk that you will develop lymphoma (cancer that begins in the cells of the immune system). If you do develop lymphoma, it might go away without treatment when you stop taking methotrexate, or it might need to be treated with chemotherapy. If you are taking methotrexate to treat cancer, you may develop certain complications as methotrexate works to destroy the cancer cells. Your doctor will monitor you carefully and treat these complications if they occur. Methotrexate may cause serious or life-threatening skin reactions. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately: fever, rash, blisters, or peeling skin. Methotrexate may decrease the activity of your immune system, and you may develop serious infections. Tell your doctor if you have any type of infection and if you have or have ever had any condition that affects your immune system. Your doctor may tell you that you should not take methotrexate unless you have life-threatening cancer. If you experience signs of infection such as a sore throat, cough, fever, or chills, call your doctor immediately. If you take methotrexate while you are being treated with radiation therapy for cancer, methotrexate may increase the risk that the radiation therapy will cause damage to your skin, bones, or other parts of your body. Keep all appointments with your doctor and the laboratory. Your doctor will order certain lab tests before, during, and after your treatment to check your body's response to methotrexate and to treat side effects before they become severe. Tell your doctor if you or your partner is pregnant or plan to become pregnant. If you are female, you will need to take a pregnancy test before you begin taking methotrexate. Use a reliable method of birth control so that you or your partner will not become pregnant during or shortly after your treatment. If you are male, you and your female partner should continue to use birth control for 3 months after you stop taking methotrexate. If you are female, you should continue to use birth control until you have had one menstrual period that began after you stopped taking methotrexate. If you or your partner become pregnant, call your doctor immediately. " Ethel From: <semrick@...> <rheumatic > Cc: " Hadia " <hadia_elnagdy@...> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:44 PM Subject: Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hadia, I went off MTX in March, I was fine for about 4 weeks and then WHAMO! Well I learned the very hard way that MTX was helping me after all. I know that'll really tick people off here but for me it's true. I went back on and I did have lots of hair loss but it did subside and now just normal hair loss. Sue ---- Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> wrote: > Hi everyone , > I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i > have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist > this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months > and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so > should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 When I was taking methotrexate, my then-rheumatologist said to take folic acid supplement (one of the B vitamins) as methotrexate will have a negative effect on folic acid levels. While taking methotrexate (approximately 14 months) I did not have any hair loss. I eventually switched doctors, and when I ran out of methotrexate, I ran out. (I did not want/get another prescription). I did not have to get weaned off of methotrexate like one needs to do when trying to get off of prednisone. Diane ________________________________ From: " mannasal@... " <mannasal@...> rheumatic Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 5:15:11 PM Subject: Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss  i was on methtrexate for months, had lots of hair loss and felt even worse, plus didn't want it in my body, so quit. last 3 years been on prednisone. feel awful and don't go out. methtrexate did give me some of my life back and i was able to do things, but i don't want that stuff back in my body. i'm hoping AP will turn my health around. sally rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hi everyone , I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 i wish i could tell you i had but my experience with ldn was not good. it gave me strong flu symptoms which never let up after 6 weeks so i gave up. it did help with joint pain though quite significantly. monique Hi. Has everyone out there had good experiences with LDN? Thanks, June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 thanks, monique. On Oct 3, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Sauve wrote: > i wish i could tell you i had but my experience with ldn was not good. > it gave me strong flu symptoms which never let up after 6 weeks so i > gave up. it did help with joint pain though quite significantly. > > monique > > Hi. Has everyone out there had good experiences with LDN? Thanks, June > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 that's why I stopped taking it (even thought it gave me more of a life than I have now), and to think it is the " drug of choice " for RA and other AI diseases! sally Re: rheumatic Methotraxate and hair loss Hadia, I went off MTX in March, I was fine for about 4 weeks and then WHAMO! Well I learned the very hard way that MTX was helping me after all. I know that'll really tick people off here but for me it's true. I went back on and I did have lots of hair loss but it did subside and now just normal hair loss. Sue ---- Hadia <hadia_elnagdy@...> wrote: > Hi everyone , > I have RA and been treated by Humira and Methotrexate . for months now i > have been losing hair like crazy and when i wanted to my rhumatologist > this week he suggested that i can stop taking Methotrexate for 6 months > and see how this will affects my hair loss. I am affried from fleer up so > should i stop it or not ? I will appreciate your suggestions > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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