Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 On New Year's Eve, I recieved a call from my daughter asking me to pick her and a friend up b/c the friend was falling down drunk. We ended up having to take her to the hospital b/c she was non responsive. We stayed with her at the hospital until 3:30AM when her parents arrived from out of town. She could have died and I thank the Lord that my daughter had the sense to call me. I tell you all this so you will understand that the stress I was under has been both physical and emotional and not easily put behind me. At the hospital, I thought I should stress dose. But because it was so late, I only took 5mg Cortef. I had taken my 5pm dose of 5mg at midnight probably an hour or more prior. We got home close to 4pm and I was exhausted but of course could not sleep. I think I did doze off twice for about an hour at a time. I was a zombie all day yesterday, aware of every cell in my body. But, did get a good nights sleep with the help of AmbienCR. I felt better this morning but seem to have taken a step back this afternoon (it's 2pm) My hands are shaking but I am not nauseaus so I don't know if this means I need more Cortef or not. Exactly what does " shakiness " entail? Should I take another stress dose? How much? I am on 10,10,5 and 5 now. Thanks so much, English ps the friend is going to be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I would take a stress dose as you depleted your reserves. but just 2.5mg to try ot quell the shakes. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 >>I had been taking 35mg a day and just recently dropped down to 30mg. I am trying to figure out whether this is a good idea or not, especially in light of my poor ability to handle this situation. I am also noticing that I am having episodes of mild anxiety. How do I tell if that is normal for the situation or because I really need that extra 5mg a day?<< WHile adrenas are healing ans when freshly healed they cnnot tolerate much stress at all. I would rather see a person stress dose when not necessary than set their adrneals back ina cycle of non functionig. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Does that mean you think I should stay at 30mg? or should I try to go down even more? Thanks, English > > >>I had been taking 35mg a day and just recently dropped down to 30mg. > I am trying to figure out whether this is a good idea or not, > especially in light of my poor ability to handle this situation. I am > also noticing that I am having episodes of mild anxiety. How do I > tell if that is normal for the situation or because I really need > that extra 5mg a day?<< > > WHile adrenas are healing ans when freshly healed they cnnot tolerate much stress at all. I would rather see a person stress dose when not necessary than set their adrneals back ina cycle of non functionig. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 No sorry Val, i think you mis understood me, all the testing was done PRIOR to beginning HC. The urine testing, saliva and blood tests. My blood has always showed high cortisol, my urine showed optimal cortisol, my saliva showed sub optimal. No difference from taking 30mg either. One other thing of not, i tried kelp powder late last year and i collapsed into a worse state, my TSH also soared above 5. Not sure what to do. > > First you cannto get accurate cortisol testing while ON HC. Your doctor > is dangerous tellign you to stop HC for this reason. Stable temps when > done wiht proper proceedure means you are stable ON THAT DOSE OF HC it > does nto mean you are ready to wean off HC and HC should ALWAYS be > weaned not just stopped. Stopping it from 25 mg a dya could kill you. > Next, your thyroid labs show one of two things, HYPERTHYROID or thyrodi > that is pooling due to low cortisol. The high T4 would indicate to me > that you DO have a reverse T3 problem but with your T4 that high and > still a high TSH, I am suspicious of a pituitary problem an think a pit > scan shoudl be done to see if there is a producing tumor. This may be > overkill , but high TSH is NOT normal wiht high RT3 or wiht high FT3 and > FT4 and yours are near top of range. Takign more thyroid of any kind is > not likely to help this until you find out what ELSE is going on. Either > severely low cortiosl STILL meaning you may need more HC thn the 25mg > you are on, or a pit tumor producingf excess TSH. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 No sorry Val, i think you mis understood me, all the testing was done PRIOR to beginning HC. The urine testing, saliva and blood tests. My blood has always showed high cortisol, my urine showed optimal cortisol, my saliva showed sub optimal. No difference from taking 30mg either. One other thing of not, i tried kelp powder late last year and i collapsed into a worse state, my TSH also soared above 5. Not sure what to do. > > First you cannto get accurate cortisol testing while ON HC. Your doctor > is dangerous tellign you to stop HC for this reason. Stable temps when > done wiht proper proceedure means you are stable ON THAT DOSE OF HC it > does nto mean you are ready to wean off HC and HC should ALWAYS be > weaned not just stopped. Stopping it from 25 mg a dya could kill you. > Next, your thyroid labs show one of two things, HYPERTHYROID or thyrodi > that is pooling due to low cortisol. The high T4 would indicate to me > that you DO have a reverse T3 problem but with your T4 that high and > still a high TSH, I am suspicious of a pituitary problem an think a pit > scan shoudl be done to see if there is a producing tumor. This may be > overkill , but high TSH is NOT normal wiht high RT3 or wiht high FT3 and > FT4 and yours are near top of range. Takign more thyroid of any kind is > not likely to help this until you find out what ELSE is going on. Either > severely low cortiosl STILL meaning you may need more HC thn the 25mg > you are on, or a pit tumor producingf excess TSH. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Free t3 5.3 (3.5-6.5) Free t4 18.1 (10-19) TSH 2.44 With your FT4 at the top of it's range you do NOT need mroe T4 so NO natural thyroidis going ot help you. Your FT3 is high enough that I am absilutley certain their is resistance with your temps as low as they are. Thsi si a sure sign of high RT3 or SOME other form of reisstance. and the best thing to coear that is straight T3. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 The initial post was from someone else Val, it must have tied the thread together because it had the same name. I haven't tested my temps yet, but all i know is that it fluctuates, sometimes i am cold with cold hands and feet and other times i am hot. This has been worse on 30mg HC (1 month). My ACTH stim test came back with (it was perfect) Initial reading range was 120-610. Every collection was meant to increase by 200). So it looks as though my adrenals are in good shape. Also my urine cortisol was 85 (20-120). The only thing that came back low was my saliva testing. So i was put on 30mg, i got really hot the first week, with no symptom improvement. The doctor after now seeing all the urine results come back (taken prior to HC) has ordered me to come off the HC. My t3 in the urine came back low/normal, but my creatinine was HIGH, it then used t3/creatinine ratio (which was low) to recommend thyroid replacement. I also tested very low on growth hormone. I'm not sure why my TSH is still high with these tests.. perhaps the feedback loop is just screwed from me being undiagnosed hypo for so many years. > > Free t3 5.3 (3.5-6.5) > Free t4 18.1 (10-19) > TSH 2.44 > > With your FT4 at the top of it's range you do NOT need mroe T4 so NO > natural thyroidis going ot help you. Your FT3 is high enough that I am > absilutley certain their is resistance with your temps as low as they > are. Thsi si a sure sign of high RT3 or SOME other form of reisstance. > and the best thing to coear that is straight T3. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I agree you need thyroid replacement, I am bettign your RT3 is through the roof making you functionally hypothyroid. This si a type pof hypothyroidism that does nto show up an the FREE thyroid labs tests as they both look good, but the key her eis oyur VERY high FT4. ANY time FT4 os over MIDRANGE the RT3 is VERY high and the higher thta FT4 os the more RT3 oyu have. RT3 binds ot T3 receptors and BLOCKS it from reaching the cells. SO it doesn;t matter how much thyroid oyu have in your blood it canntpo get into the cells so you are hypothyroid. Your pituitary is NOT just tuned to theblood levels of thyroid it is also tuned into the TISSUE levels where oyu are low. Thus you have elevated TSH. High cortils can cause this as well as low, in fact thta is well documented in studies. LOW ferritin can calso cause this. But the thing here is you need ot find the CAUSE to prevent this from continuing as T3 is notliekly to work WELL for you with this issue in place. SO IRON panel a full iron panel would be warranterd and Cortisol Binding Globulin as well woudl be my siggestion. low tissue levels of thyroid also cause low Growth Homrone so that si no surprise to me. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Ok, yeah i feel i have been like this for a long time though. Even as a young kid (im only 21) i remember having dry skin, poor circulation, got IBS at age 11, brain fog developed early. I have read that people can just have thyroid resistance, as opposed to something else causing it. Thyroid receptors just don't work very well. Dr Starr's book talks a lot about this, he calls it type 2 hypothyroidism. It's very well documented, Dr Holtorf also acknowledges it as well as Dr Hotze. My blood cortisol is ALWAYS high. My saliva was low, but my urine was perfect. So i don't know what to believe. I am getting iron panel done asap, but i don't think this is an issue. I have noticed my first week on HC i was getting really hot, and now tapering down i have been getting hot. However, on 30mg i just felt crap as usual. What is your thoughts on the type 2 thyroid resistance. Here is an article which discusses it http://www.raysahelian.com/dhea.html > > I agree you need thyroid replacement, I am bettign your RT3 is through > the roof making you functionally hypothyroid. This si a type pof > hypothyroidism that does nto show up an the FREE thyroid labs tests as > they both look good, but the key her eis oyur VERY high FT4. ANY time > FT4 os over MIDRANGE the RT3 is VERY high and the higher thta FT4 os the > more RT3 oyu have. RT3 binds ot T3 receptors and BLOCKS it from > reaching the cells. SO it doesn;t matter how much thyroid oyu have in > your blood it canntpo get into the cells so you are hypothyroid. Your > pituitary is NOT just tuned to theblood levels of thyroid it is also > tuned into the TISSUE levels where oyu are low. Thus you have elevated > TSH. High cortils can cause this as well as low, in fact thta is well > documented in studies. LOW ferritin can calso cause this. But the thing > here is you need ot find the CAUSE to prevent this from continuing as T3 > is notliekly to work WELL for you with this issue in place. SO IRON > panel a full iron panel would be warranterd and Cortisol Binding > Globulin as well woudl be my siggestion. low tissue levels of thyroid > also cause low Growth Homrone so that si no surprise to me. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 That article points to a site abotu DHEA, nto thyroid resistance, I haven't time ot go through it all can you copy and paste any relevant material? -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 There si another possibility. A pit tumor that is producing hormones thus causing too high TSH and possibly ACTH as well thus high blood cortisl and high TSH with high Thyroid levels. The saliva cortils tests for FREE dcortisol that is what is reachign the cells. When cortils is too high the body will try to bind it by blocking it;s receptors and creating more CBG (cortisol binfding globuilin) which si why I suggested testing that. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 OK so that is basically what we do here. I always tell perople they need their FREE T3 ABOVE the normal range whne on T3 onyl. I feel bets wiht mine at 6.2 with my top of range at 4.2. But I do thi s for a VERY differnt reason. The OLD thyroid hormone range wentthis high. When I was first diagnosed hypo abotu 36 years ago the top of the range then was 619-620 in ALL the labs I went to. I have watched over the years as this has been worked down bit by bit to the meager levels where it si today and now I am seeing labs useing a FT3 range lower than 4.0 which si totally rediculous! So I do nto think we are making ourselves hyperthyroi dto clear the receptos adn make them work, we are actully in the gorup of peoplethat NEED those higher levels for normal function. Call it what oyu will, I have talked to enough of Dr Starr's patients ot knwo he does nto help thoise wiht weak adrenals. But his ideas abtou thyroid resistance are nto new, just newly worded. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 OK so that is basically what we do here. I always tell perople they need their FREE T3 ABOVE the normal range whne on T3 onyl. I feel bets wiht mine at 6.2 with my top of range at 4.2. But I do thi s for a VERY differnt reason. The OLD thyroid hormone range wentthis high. When I was first diagnosed hypo abotu 36 years ago the top of the range then was 619-620 in ALL the labs I went to. I have watched over the years as this has been worked down bit by bit to the meager levels where it si today and now I am seeing labs useing a FT3 range lower than 4.0 which si totally rediculous! So I do nto think we are making ourselves hyperthyroi dto clear the receptos adn make them work, we are actully in the gorup of peoplethat NEED those higher levels for normal function. Call it what oyu will, I have talked to enough of Dr Starr's patients ot knwo he does nto help thoise wiht weak adrenals. But his ideas abtou thyroid resistance are nto new, just newly worded. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I totally agree with you on this. I think some people don't use their hormones well enough, and therefore need much more in able to function. Definitely low iron and low/high cortisol are causes. But it is widely regarded that standard thyroid resistance does exist, given that i developed so many of these symptoms so early on, i would think this could be true with me. From an early age i had dry skin etc. My only real concern at the moment is my cortisol situation. Here's the thing: Blood tests have always come back high, Saliva test came back showing reasonably low, Urine test came back showing optimal. Upon starting with 30mg i got hot first week, then nothing changes still felt terrible. Upon lowering my dose the last couple of days i have gotten hot again.. however i feel i have more energy! I'm still unable to sweat so my hands feel full of blood and hot. It's such an enigma i'm really not sure what is going on. > > OK so that is basically what we do here. I always tell perople they need > their FREE T3 ABOVE the normal range whne on T3 onyl. I feel bets wiht > mine at 6.2 with my top of range at 4.2. But I do thi s for a VERY > differnt reason. The OLD thyroid hormone range wentthis high. When I was > first diagnosed hypo abotu 36 years ago the top of the range then was > 619-620 in ALL the labs I went to. I have watched over the years as this > has been worked down bit by bit to the meager levels where it si today > and now I am seeing labs useing a FT3 range lower than 4.0 which si > totally rediculous! So I do nto think we are making ourselves > hyperthyroi dto clear the receptos adn make them work, we are actully in > the gorup of peoplethat NEED those higher levels for normal function. > Call it what oyu will, I have talked to enough of Dr Starr's patients ot > knwo he does nto help thoise wiht weak adrenals. But his ideas abtou > thyroid resistance are nto new, just newly worded. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I totally agree with you on this. I think some people don't use their hormones well enough, and therefore need much more in able to function. Definitely low iron and low/high cortisol are causes. But it is widely regarded that standard thyroid resistance does exist, given that i developed so many of these symptoms so early on, i would think this could be true with me. From an early age i had dry skin etc. My only real concern at the moment is my cortisol situation. Here's the thing: Blood tests have always come back high, Saliva test came back showing reasonably low, Urine test came back showing optimal. Upon starting with 30mg i got hot first week, then nothing changes still felt terrible. Upon lowering my dose the last couple of days i have gotten hot again.. however i feel i have more energy! I'm still unable to sweat so my hands feel full of blood and hot. It's such an enigma i'm really not sure what is going on. > > OK so that is basically what we do here. I always tell perople they need > their FREE T3 ABOVE the normal range whne on T3 onyl. I feel bets wiht > mine at 6.2 with my top of range at 4.2. But I do thi s for a VERY > differnt reason. The OLD thyroid hormone range wentthis high. When I was > first diagnosed hypo abotu 36 years ago the top of the range then was > 619-620 in ALL the labs I went to. I have watched over the years as this > has been worked down bit by bit to the meager levels where it si today > and now I am seeing labs useing a FT3 range lower than 4.0 which si > totally rediculous! So I do nto think we are making ourselves > hyperthyroi dto clear the receptos adn make them work, we are actully in > the gorup of peoplethat NEED those higher levels for normal function. > Call it what oyu will, I have talked to enough of Dr Starr's patients ot > knwo he does nto help thoise wiht weak adrenals. But his ideas abtou > thyroid resistance are nto new, just newly worded. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I totally agree with you on this. I think some people don't use their hormones well enough, and therefore need much more in able to function. Definitely low iron and low/high cortisol are causes. But it is widely regarded that standard thyroid resistance does exist, given that i developed so many of these symptoms so early on, i would think this could be true with me. From an early age i had dry skin etc. My only real concern at the moment is my cortisol situation. Here's the thing: Blood tests have always come back high, Saliva test came back showing reasonably low, Urine test came back showing optimal. Upon starting with 30mg i got hot first week, then nothing changes still felt terrible. Upon lowering my dose the last couple of days i have gotten hot again.. however i feel i have more energy! I'm still unable to sweat so my hands feel full of blood and hot. It's such an enigma i'm really not sure what is going on. > > OK so that is basically what we do here. I always tell perople they need > their FREE T3 ABOVE the normal range whne on T3 onyl. I feel bets wiht > mine at 6.2 with my top of range at 4.2. But I do thi s for a VERY > differnt reason. The OLD thyroid hormone range wentthis high. When I was > first diagnosed hypo abotu 36 years ago the top of the range then was > 619-620 in ALL the labs I went to. I have watched over the years as this > has been worked down bit by bit to the meager levels where it si today > and now I am seeing labs useing a FT3 range lower than 4.0 which si > totally rediculous! So I do nto think we are making ourselves > hyperthyroi dto clear the receptos adn make them work, we are actully in > the gorup of peoplethat NEED those higher levels for normal function. > Call it what oyu will, I have talked to enough of Dr Starr's patients ot > knwo he does nto help thoise wiht weak adrenals. But his ideas abtou > thyroid resistance are nto new, just newly worded. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Ok thanks for the clarification. Can you explain why i get hot spells and so on? I haven't started any thyroid yet. Should i start taking Rhodiola etc before starting thyroid? He also prescribed me 25mg of DHEA because my levels were low/normal. Also, in my urine test it showed high levels of creatinine, and used it in a ratio with the thyroid hormones.. it said my ratio was low and recommended thyroid supplementation. What is the cause of this? > > OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows > what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the > tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but > wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would > recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out > highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also > stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and > ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood > Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that > DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Ok thanks for the clarification. Can you explain why i get hot spells and so on? I haven't started any thyroid yet. Should i start taking Rhodiola etc before starting thyroid? He also prescribed me 25mg of DHEA because my levels were low/normal. Also, in my urine test it showed high levels of creatinine, and used it in a ratio with the thyroid hormones.. it said my ratio was low and recommended thyroid supplementation. What is the cause of this? > > OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows > what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the > tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but > wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would > recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out > highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also > stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and > ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood > Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that > DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Ok thanks for the clarification. Can you explain why i get hot spells and so on? I haven't started any thyroid yet. Should i start taking Rhodiola etc before starting thyroid? He also prescribed me 25mg of DHEA because my levels were low/normal. Also, in my urine test it showed high levels of creatinine, and used it in a ratio with the thyroid hormones.. it said my ratio was low and recommended thyroid supplementation. What is the cause of this? > > OK Blood cortisl looks at what you are producing, Urine cortiosl shows > what you are actually using and saliva cortios lshows what is in the > tissues. Thsi si why they are difernt. Tissue is the most important but > wiht normal urine levels I doubt I would supplement HC either. I would > recommend loots of good adaptogens which not only help you level out > highs and lows but also help the HPA performance over all. They also > stiuimulate your body to use cortilsl more efficiently. Rhodiola and > ashwaganda would be the ones I would recommend., IF oyu have low Blood > Pressure I would recommend Licorice root wihtthose. But if you try that > DO monitor BP as it can raise it too much. > > -- > > http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://faqhelp.webs.com/ > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Synthetic T4 is EVIL! But I ahve no issues wiht synthetic T3, nor shoudl anyoen that has seen some of the miraculous turnarounds in health many here are seeing. With your T4 as high as it is adding more would be VERY detrimental where as adding in T3 will help. -- http://nthadrenalsweb.org/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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