food sensitivities

[Guest guest]

there is a test one can do quickly and free for food sensitivities.

1) take your pulse after you havent eaten for a few hours and your pulse is

around normal resting. (you're not excited; or in a big flare; etc)

2) put a piece of food on your tongue for a minute

3) re-take your pulse.

4) wash out mouth with distilled water and repeat once pulse is back to

normal.

5) be sure to count your pusle the full 60 seconds for accuracy.

If the difference is more than 10% you're reacting; the bigger the difference

the stronger the reaction. Try to use one ingredient at a time; for example

put some corn on your tongue instead of a product that contains corn and

other things. Also works for liquids like milk. I should add that I

personally did this and even when I was strict about avoiding the reacting

foods it only helped a little. I believe that the reactions I had; just

above 10% for milk, wheat, corn, etc is a *result* of a weakened system but

not a cause. Also; be carefull; I've found that if I try to follow diet too

strictly it can be very stressful; ie only do it if it is really making a

difference.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . Your idea seems worthwhile and I will try it. Several

years ago I paid for expensive food sensitivity testing but it wasn't

much help. However, I have found that many of the diet

recommendations from the book " Eat Right For Your Blood Type " have

been very helpful to me.

> there is a test one can do quickly and free for food

sensitivities.

> 1) take your pulse after you havent eaten for a few hours and your

pulse is

> around normal resting. (you're not excited; or in a big flare; etc)

> 2) put a piece of food on your tongue for a minute

> 3) re-take your pulse.

> 4) wash out mouth with distilled water and repeat once pulse is

back to

> normal.

> 5) be sure to count your pusle the full 60 seconds for accuracy.

> If the difference is more than 10% you're reacting; the bigger the

difference

> the stronger the reaction. Try to use one ingredient at a time;

for example

> put some corn on your tongue instead of a product that contains

corn and

> other things. Also works for liquids like milk. I should add that

I

> personally did this and even when I was strict about avoiding the

reacting

> foods it only helped a little. I believe that the reactions I had;

just

> above 10% for milk, wheat, corn, etc is a *result* of a weakened

system but

> not a cause. Also; be carefull; I've found that if I try to follow

diet too

> strictly it can be very stressful; ie only do it if it is really

making a

> difference.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this method. I wonder if it works for the

supplements,too.. Nil

Re:food sensitivities

| there is a test one can do quickly and free for food sensitivities.

| 1) take your pulse after you havent eaten for a few hours and your pulse

is

| around normal resting. (you're not excited; or in a big flare; etc)

| 2) put a piece of food on your tongue for a minute

| 3) re-take your pulse.

| 4) wash out mouth with distilled water and repeat once pulse is back to

| normal.

| 5) be sure to count your pusle the full 60 seconds for accuracy.

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne.

You can get an antibody test for food sensitivities (they draw a tube of blood

and send it off to the lab) done by labs like Meta Metrix

for around $200 (I think). I was using the word allergy interchangeably with

sensitivity in my post, I don't know if they are technically

interchangeable. My test was helpful to me.

Tom

> My MD sent me to an allergist to rule out allergies with my fatigue.

> He gave me a skin test. I did not test positive for any foods that he

> tested me for. I've got info on a clinic that does blood tests

> for 'delayed' reactions to food, which would indicate sensitivity, as

> opposed to allergy?

>

> Does anyone know anything about this or had it done? I asked the

> allergist whether a blood test was useful and he said skin tests were

> better as they were more sensitive. I did not ask him about 'delayed'

> symptoms. I am wondering if it is worth pursuing.

>

> anne

[Guest guest]

We've also used Great Plains Lab but not for food allergies/sensitivities

although we've had that done using an IgG food panel. The IgE is the one that

wouldn't be effective for food sensitivities.

My son had an Organic Acid Test from Great Plains Lab. There's another lab

that also does specialized testing.. I think it's called Great Smokies. These

labs are more specialized than the hospital or a lab like Kline or

Labcorp. I've known several people who tested negative from a hospital test

only

to test positive from the Great Plains Lab. Your insurance may or may not

cover it but it was well worth the $220 to have our son tested. The OATs test

is a urine test that includes: yeast metabolites, bacteria metabolites,

nutritional deficiencies, antioxidant deficiencies, inborn errors of metabolism,

amino acid abnormalities, fatty acid abnormalities, exposure to solvent toxins,

deficienceis of B or C vitamins, neurotranmitters, indications of diabetic

conditions, Krebs cycle metabolites, clostridia overgrowth, glycolysis,

pyrimidines and 62 important compounds. www.greatplainslaboratory.com

Another option for food sensitivities would be to find a naturopathic dr. who

uses an MSA (electrodermal) machine which we've found to be as effective as

blood tests.

Regards,

Sharon K.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kari,

I think if you find a GOOD allergist, then they do know more about the food

allergies, even when doing the pollen/mold/dust testing. I asked my previous

allergist why I coughed after eating apples and grapes. I was pretty sure he

thought I was crazy. But he didn't. He explained that it was the skin of the

fruits that I was allergic to. I'd never heard of this before talking to him.

And

this was about 6 years ago!! He suggested peeling apples before eating, and

not to eat grapes (which I love!).

Chris

[Guest guest]

> Kari,

> You might need another allergist. It was my allergist who alerted

me

> to my yeast problem. I also do not have any allergies to food,

> according to the tests, but I do have pretty bad reactions due to

> intolerances to wheat, dairy, rice, and most other starch or sugary-

> food. Briefly, she explained that due to high environmental

allergies

> (I'm off the chart as well) and a couple other factors (had a

couple

> bad cases of food poisoning, was on the pill for years) that my

body

> was " filled to capacity " with the amount of allergies and weak from

> the imbalances from other factors. This lowers the immune system

and

<snip>

>

> I have been with her since March and was MISERABLE when I found

her.

> I could barely leave my apartment and had been to about 10 doctors

> for a year before finding her. Now my symptoms are under control.

I

> am not cured, but I am on the way. I can even enjoy a few pieces

of

> roasted potato or a glass of alcohol on the weekends without having

a

> crazy reaction anymore!

>

> And a quick disclaimer...I am not saying that allergies cause

> candida, I actually have no idea...but they may be related. For

all

> I know, allergies are still just another symptom, but I have found

> that getting my allergies under control, and taking sugar and wheat

> out of my diet (for the most part) has strengthened my immune

system

> so that my body has been more able to balance itself.

>

> -meli (mists_ny)

>

Hi Meli,

Your allergist isn't dealing effectively enough with toxin load,

which results in malformed cell receptors, which results in turn in

lack of cellular controls including immune dysfunction such as

sensitivities, which is an overactive immune response.

I'd recommend a series of liver flushes every two weeks until you get

no more hepatic stones. it will also get rid of your gallstones. The

outcome is a properly functioning liver, your body's most effective

toxin remover. Here's the liver flush:

http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Print & sid=38

To get out from under malformed receptor sites you might want to take

Ambrotose from Mannatech for awhile, just until your sensitivities go

away.

Also (everyone) take a hard look at leaky gut, which is a natural

progression of any kind of bowel dysbiosis.

http://zeek.ca/4u/article.php?op=Print & sid=159

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

At 11:44 AM 5/23/2004, you wrote:

>I say allergies but the proper words used by the medical profession are

>multiple food and chemical sensitivities. These sensitivities recede or

>disappear

>completely at times--I suppose when the candida stops being invasive.

>In my case, the reactions are

>- acnelike bumps

>- bloodshot eyes, dark circles under eyes

>- panic attacks, depressive moods

>- feeling very sleepy suddenly

>- headaches, " circle of iron " around the head

>- major bloating and gas

>

>and anaphylactic shock once.

To these reactions, I can add a feeling of inebriation, sudden aggressive

behavior, difficulty breathing, coughing and sneezing, chest pain and -

and this is the scary one - racing heartbeat. The one time I thought to

use the pulse meter on my excercise bike while this was happening, it got

as high as 180. Ouch! Fortunately, that last one only happens rarely and

will stop in minutes if I take a Benedryl.

In short, an allergic reaction can be nearly anything.

[Guest guest]

Dans un e-mail daté du 23/05/2004 23:45:00 Romance Standard Time,

bbc1000@... a écrit :

>

> To these reactions, I can add a feeling of inebriation, sudden aggressive

> behavior, difficulty breathing, coughing and sneezing, chest pain and -

> and this is the scary one - racing heartbeat. The one time I thought to

> use the pulse meter on my excercise bike while this was happening, it got

> as high as 180. Ouch! Fortunately, that last one only happens rarely and

> will stop in minutes if I take a Benedryl.

the sneezing, runny nose seem to be--at least in my case--permanent features

when one has a heavy candida load--they have greatly receded since I started

the diet. The racing heartbeat, I had it once at night, quite scary.

Francine

[Guest guest]

> I cannot seem to figure out easily what foods I may be sensitive

> to. My question is that as I use the anti-fungal and I do rotate

my > diet and I have eliminated all grains, sugar etc. I am eating

meats > and vegetables. Will the food sensitivities generally clear

up > gradually on their own as the candida gets eliminated.

==>, yes food sensitivities gradually clear up on their own as

you overcome the candida.

>Or if I do not completely eliminate anything I am sensitive to will

that > continue to cause me problems?

==>No they will not. The only ones I stayed sensitive to were low-

fat unpasteurized dairy because fats are needed to digest them, and

soy which is the only true allergy I have. While I had candida food

sensitivities were evident by a stomach ache, but soy has always

caused me severe asthma attacks.

>My hope is that it is just as the > candida dies off the food

sensitivities will go away because I am > not sure I will ever figure

out for sure what I am sensitive to.

==>They will go away for sure .

> I don't have any violent reactions usually and of course when I do

> get a stomach ache, I am never sure if it is die-off or a reaction

> to the food. My guess is it is probably die-off more often than

> not.

==>I wouldn't be concerned about it . Taking enough sea salt,

good fats and maybe extra digestive enzymes may alleviate your

stomach ache. Have you taken the stomach acid test - in our Files?

> Also, is bad smelling (sulfur like smell) gas an indication of die-

> off?

==>Gas, bloating and abdominal discomfort is caused by candida dying

off.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I find that digestive enzymes (pancreatin) really help my food sensitivities by

allowing me to eat more than otherwise.

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I take a rather large dose of Pancreatic enzymes (30,000 units) at

every meal. I have chronic pancreatitis so I must take them or I am

in great pain after each meal and I cannot digest my food. I believe

my pancreatitis is related to a viral re-activation in 1999 and again

in 2003 even though most Dr's I have seen do not believe it is

related to my CFIDS/ME.

I have not seen ANY benefits to my CFIDS/ME symptoms from the

pancreatic enzymes and I am currently dealing with food allergy

issues as well.

Wonder why I am different?

Marti

>

> Hi,

>

> I find that digestive enzymes (pancreatin) really help my food

sensitivities by allowing me to eat more than otherwise.

>

> bb

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Marti

I also can not digest food if I don't take pancreatin.Also have wide range

of food allergies.I am thinking this is late stage CFS symptom.Do you also

have weight loss problem together with this?Do you have light colored

stools?I did not take any tests. Which tests have you taken to decide you

had chronic pancreatitis?

Nil

Re: Food sensitivities

I take a rather large dose of Pancreatic enzymes (30,000 units) at

every meal. I have chronic pancreatitis so I must take them or I am

in great pain after each meal and I cannot digest my food. I believe

my pancreatitis is related to a viral re-activation in 1999 and again

in 2003 even though most Dr's I have seen do not believe it is

related to my CFIDS/ME.

I have not seen ANY benefits to my CFIDS/ME symptoms from the

pancreatic enzymes and I am currently dealing with food allergy

issues as well.

Wonder why I am different?

Marti

>

> Hi,

>

> I find that digestive enzymes (pancreatin) really help my food

sensitivities by allowing me to eat more than otherwise.

>

> bb

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nil,

My insurance is very restrictive so mostly have had various enzyme

tests to check my lipase, amylase and the other one (that handles

protein - sorry, brainfogged, protease, i think) as well as liver

enzymes. If they are elevated several times over a year's time,

most Dr's including the ones I have seen (2 specialists, 5

Internists) call it chronic pancreatitis - if it is bad enough for

them to hospitalize you, they call it acute pancreatitis.

There is a procedure called ERCP (i used to know what it stood for -

endoscopic...). It is an invasive procedure where they send a camera

down your throat and into the pancreatic ducts. Then they take a

look around and see what might be causing the pancreatitis.

Unfortunately, it is not done often because it can trigger an acute

attack. Also, they do CAT scans and ultrasounds to determine if a

gall stone is blocking the bile duct(s) and causing the pancreas to

get inflamed. They also check for pancreatic cancer when they do

the CAT scans. If there is a gall stone blocking the liver duct or

traveled up pancreatic duct, then they don't call it chronic

pancreatitis - they remove the gall stones and then the pancreatitis

is considered resolved. If none of the above is a problem, then they

call it chronic pancreatitis or idiopathic pancreatis (meaning the

source of problem is not known).

Even on the 30,000 units prescription pancrease ($333 per month) at

each meal, I struggle with a moderate size meal which can have no fat

and very little meat. I still have pain, nausea, no digestion,

bloating, allergies. I do better on a liquid diet or beans or rice or

cream style corn. I cannot eat if I have to go out or be in a

sitting position for long as there is not enough room in there due to

the inflammation. It has become a big issue in my illness.

Marti

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I find that digestive enzymes (pancreatin) really help my food

> sensitivities by allowing me to eat more than otherwise.

> >

> > bb

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marti

Thanks so much for your answer and detailed description of tests. This was

very helpful.

My liver enzymes are not elevated. Would you think this may indicate that my

chances of having pancreatitis low?

I know how bothering it is not to be able to eat many things. I could not

have breakfast for about two years as there was nothing for me to eat.It was

horrible.At this point I can only eat green olives with some olive oil.That

is the only thing I can have for breakfast and that even is sometimes. Not

always. Many days I only have psyllium husks for breakfast. I also could not

eat meat for about two years. This is not good as it leaves you weaker.

I am better now. Here is what I did. Don't know which one helped most

though.

Probiotics,

Psylium seed husks to help bowel movements.

Supplement bilex containing ox bile and pancreatin

supplement containing pancreatin and pancreas tissue.

Coffee enemas,castor oil packs on liver area as needed or as i have energy.

i think zinc helped me with digestive issues and also b6 to some extend.

I also took some spa therapy from time to time and received energy healing

from an energy healer. So,these might also have been helpful.

bw

Nil

Re: Food sensitivities

Hi Nil,

My insurance is very restrictive so mostly have had various enzyme

tests to check my lipase, amylase and the other one (that handles

protein - sorry, brainfogged, protease, i think) as well as liver

enzymes. If they are elevated several times over a year's time,

most Dr's including the ones I have seen (2 specialists, 5

Internists) call it chronic pancreatitis - if it is bad enough for

them to hospitalize you, they call it acute pancreatitis.

There is a procedure called ERCP (i used to know what it stood for -

endoscopic...). It is an invasive procedure where they send a camera

down your throat and into the pancreatic ducts. Then they take a

look around and see what might be causing the pancreatitis.

Unfortunately, it is not done often because it can trigger an acute

attack. Also, they do CAT scans and ultrasounds to determine if a

gall stone is blocking the bile duct(s) and causing the pancreas to

get inflamed. They also check for pancreatic cancer when they do

the CAT scans. If there is a gall stone blocking the liver duct or

traveled up pancreatic duct, then they don't call it chronic

pancreatitis - they remove the gall stones and then the pancreatitis

is considered resolved. If none of the above is a problem, then they

call it chronic pancreatitis or idiopathic pancreatis (meaning the

source of problem is not known).

Even on the 30,000 units prescription pancrease ($333 per month) at

each meal, I struggle with a moderate size meal which can have no fat

and very little meat. I still have pain, nausea, no digestion,

bloating, allergies. I do better on a liquid diet or beans or rice or

cream style corn. I cannot eat if I have to go out or be in a

sitting position for long as there is not enough room in there due to

the inflammation. It has become a big issue in my illness.

Marti

[Guest guest]

>Hi Marti

>Thanks so much for your answer and detailed

>description of tests. This was

>very helpful.

>My liver enzymes are not elevated. Would you think

>this may indicate that my chances of having

pancreatitis low?

No, there were times that I had definitely had

pancreatitis and my liver enzymes were normal or

slightly elevated. I think they determine that if the

liver enzymes are elevated then it helps confirm the

diagnosis.

Also, I thought of the following since my last post:

perscription pancreatic enzymes are not like regular

digestive enzymes. They can be very caustic and if

one should break, you should take care not to inhale

the contents of the capsule. Having said this, I will

tell you of a mistake I made recently so no one else

does it too. Recently, I went to bed right after a

meal and my pancreatic enzymes. I must have had a

little acid reflux but it was the enzymes too and I

burned the inside of my esophagus. It resolved itself

but was very painful to eat or swallow even water for

several days.

Lastly, I had one gastro. Dr. refuse me as a patient

because my pancreatitis was familial not due to a gall

stone or some other mechanical issue. May be best

not to mention family history right off the bat until

you can get tested or a diagnosis.

The only things that help me some is high dose

pancreatic enzymes and an anti-inflammatory like

naprosene.

The only thing that helps alot for me is a liquid diet

which is actually the treatment if you were to be

hospitalized with acute pancreatitis.

Take Care,

Marti

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I just got a phone call form my doctor of naturopathy telling me

that a

> test that he ran on me (Immuno 1 Bloodprint-IgG Assay)

revealed

> that I have a food sensitivity to eggs among some other things. On

a

> scale from 1-4, 4 being the most sensitive I am only a 1.

>

> I am in distress because eggs a major staple in my diet following

your

> program and I seem to be doing really well. I don't notice any

> noticeable reactions. I'm not sure what to do. What are your

thoughts?

Hi Sandy. Food allergy tests are very inaccurate and shouldn't be

relied upon. Also the medical industry makes the mistake of

interpreting healing reactions as being allergic reactions. Both

have exactly the same list of symptoms so it is understandable since

the medical field doesn't believe the body can heal itself. Also

they make a ton of money on allergies.

To understand more about how false food allergy tests are, and also

how the antibody theory is false, which is what allergy tests are

based upon see these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_1.php

Therefore, many members of this group have been able to have eggs

without any problems. Eggs do contain sulphur, which is antifungal

(also sulphur is one of the 7 macrominerals), so it will create die-

off/healing reactions. When you start on them start with one per

day, and only gradually increase them every 5 days. That way your

die-off/healing reactions will be minimized. I hope it works for you

like so many others.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

----Hi Sandy,

Just wanted to share...I had food allergy testing, per my M.D. They

were not blood tests but rather the typical small injection. I have

always eaten eggs. ALL MY LIFE! I had a severe reaction at the Dr.

office during testing. I needed a shot to slow my heart and breathing.

(Scary to say the least) He told me no more eggs!!! I said...yeah

right. The first few time I ate eggs (raw and cooked) I made sure I

was around other adults in case of emergency. But, as expected, no

such occurance.

I eat 3-4 eggs every morning for breakfast and have never had a

problem. (But that's just me

Amy

[Guest guest]

>

> ----Hi Sandy,

> Just wanted to share...I had food allergy testing, per my M.D. They

> were not blood tests but rather the typical small injection. I have

> always eaten eggs. ALL MY LIFE! I had a severe reaction at the Dr.

> office during testing. I needed a shot to slow my heart and

breathing.

> (Scary to say the least) He told me no more eggs!!! I said...yeah

> right. The first few time I ate eggs (raw and cooked) I made sure I

> was around other adults in case of emergency. But, as expected, no

> such occurance.

> I eat 3-4 eggs every morning for breakfast and have never had a

> problem. (But that's just me

Hi Amy. Your reactions to the food allergy injections is very

interesting. I had those tests too, and I reacted to every food tested

because of what was added to the water mixed with the food antigen!!

LOL!

Also they don't use " good " unadulterated foods to make the antigens.

Often they use regular eggs from chickens treated with vaccines,

antibiotics, and who have foods loaded with pesticides, etc. They don't

know enough about what " good " eggs are either.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> Hi Amy. Your reactions to the food allergy injections is very

> interesting. I had those tests too, and I reacted to every food

tested

> because of what was added to the water mixed with the food

antigen!!

> LOL!

--------I'm not sure what was in the injection. I only had that

reaction to eggs though.

> Also they don't use " good " unadulterated foods to make the

antigens.

> Often they use regular eggs from chickens treated with vaccines,

> antibiotics, and who have foods loaded with pesticides, etc. They

don't

> know enough about what " good " eggs are either.

>

> Bee

--------That is an interesting bit of information. Thanks for sharing.

Amy

[Guest guest]

This is very interesting to me, since I was diagnosed years ago with a dairy

allergy (by food elimination, not lab test).  In one sense this has been helpful

when starting the diet, since I already had ceased eating all dairy products.

It would be lovely if I could add butter in again!

Additionally my homeopath tested me for sensitivities and included 'anything

cow' on the list, not just the dairy products, but also the meat.  Here in

Ireland where I currently live, beef products reign!  It's the ubiquitous meat. 

And I do love a good steak.  So what you are saying is - it might be alright for

me to go ahead and have some?

I used to notice that red meat was quite hard on my gut, even before the

realisation that I had candida, so I minimized it.  But if my reactions were

just healing reactions, I'm ready to embrace it again... with butter on top!

Thanks so much,

andra

>>

+++In fact a person cannot possible be allergic to good unadultered foods (pure

foods direct from nature) because all human bodies are designed by

nature to consume them (in the right balance of course). People

(mainly doctors) mistake healing reactions to good foods as being

allergic to them, which isn't true. For example, if you have candida

you will get die-off/healing reactions because the sulphur in them

kills candida. To understand more about all of this please read " How

to Successfully Overcome Candida " :

==

~freedom is a state of mind

[Guest guest]

>

> This is very interesting to me, since I was diagnosed years ago

with a dairy allergy (by food elimination, not lab test).  In one

sense this has been helpful when starting the diet, since I already

had ceased eating all dairy products.

>

> It would be lovely if I could add butter in again!

> Additionally my homeopath tested me for sensitivities and

included 'anything cow' on the list, not just the dairy products, but

also the meat.  Here in Ireland where I currently live, beef products

reign!  It's the ubiquitous meat.  And I do love a good steak.  So

what you are saying is - it might be alright for me to go ahead and

have some?

> I used to notice that red meat was quite hard on my gut, even

before the realisation that I had candida, so I minimized it.  But if

my reactions were just healing reactions, I'm ready to embrace it

again... with butter on top!

Hi andra. Yes, it may be alright for you to have butter and

beef. Many members of this group have been able to have butter and

beef even though their allergy tests indicated they were sensitive or

allergic. Some people have difficulty digesting casein in butter,

which is a milk protein, but they can get around that by making ghee,

which is clarified butter, that removes proteins from the butter -

see this recipe:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/butter2.php

The fact is that protein and good fats are much easier for the body

to digest compared to carbs. Carbs tax the body resources a great

deal in order for them to be digested. Also if you were still eating

grains (bread, pastries, etc.) and nuts which were not properly

prepared to remove enzyme that block protein digestion you would

think red meat was causing the problem. Also if the meat contained

antibiotics, vaccines, pesticides, etc. and the cows weren't feed

their proper diet this could cause a person to react.

To understand more about how false food allergy tests are see these

articles: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_1.php

In order to minimize healing reactions to any good unadulterated

foods start with small amounts and gradually increase them. Butter

is also antifungal so it will create die-off symptoms.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>>

Many members of this group have been able to have butter and

beef even though their allergy tests indicated they were sensitive or

allergic. Some people have difficulty digesting casein in butter,

which is a milk protein, but they can get around that by making ghee,

which is clarified butter, that removes proteins from the butter -

see this recipe:

>>

Bee, thanks for the answer and the recipe - that looks fairly straightforward. 

I think I will try it out with a small amount of 'actual' butter first, and see

how I go.  Same with the beef - though one thing at a time, otherwise I'll get

any symptoms confused! 

I appreciate the confirmation of what I thought I picked up from your website

and from this group.  I'm sure it must be very repetitious for you & everyone

else long familiar with the materials, but as I said before, the reassurance is

really lovely!

Also thanks for responding to the weight issue.  Hopefully I won't drop too

much... but only time will tell!

andra

==

~freedom is a state of mind

[Guest guest]

>

> >>

> Many members of this group have been able to have butter and

beef even though their allergy tests indicated they were sensitive

or allergic. Some people have difficulty digesting casein in butter,

which is a milk protein, but they can get around that by making ghee,

which is clarified butter, that removes proteins from the butter -

> see this recipe:

>

> Bee, thanks for the answer and the recipe - that looks fairly

straightforward.  I think I will try it out with a small amount

of 'actual' butter first, and see how I go.  Same with the beef -

though one thing at a time, otherwise I'll get any symptoms confused!

+++You are welcome, and that's a good idea to have one

thing at a time.

>

> I appreciate the confirmation of what I thought I picked up from

your website and from this group.  I'm sure it must be very

repetitious for you & everyone else long familiar with the materials,

but as I said before, the reassurance is really lovely!

+++I'm glad I could give you that reassurance.

>

> Also thanks for responding to the weight issue.  Hopefully I won't

drop too much... but only time will tell!

+++Yes, hopefully, but no promises, eh? Keep in touch and let me

know how you are doing.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

HI ,

My daughter has them. The foods are soy, corn, wheat, white flour,

tomatoes, cashews, pistachios and dairy foods (including goat dairy).

However she is fine with butter & cream.

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> does anyone with seizures have food senstitivites? and what are the

foods?

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