RE: lurker emerging:)

July 23, 2008

Buy the books, and teach your doc. If he is not receptive, then find a doc

that is. Most Rheumy's think they know it all. Stay away from that kind of

doc. Find someone who is into healing and alternative medicine. Show them the

books. Tell them about A/P. Grab the prescription you got and ask the doc to

make it for 90 days. Then take the three months to find that special doc who is

open to learning something new. Bring copies of all your blood work, do research

and keep track of your progress. When they see you progressing, the arrogant

ones back off or ignore you completely rather than say they were wrong. The

open minded docs will want to know more. Google MP which is really a different

version of A/P only more intense with more than one antibiotic. Bring all the

information you can get your hands on to each visit. Some docs will toss it and

some will read it. But they can't argue with success. If you have some $$$$ go

to

see Dr. Trentham in Boston. From VA., you will have to fly there. He will put

you on Minocin 100mg twice a day right off the bat. He will give you 6 months

worth of Minocin (Brand Only) with refills. Get those refills. The you will

have nine months or more to find a doc near you willing to take the chance.

These docs are not taught the A/P in school. They have no clue. They

would rather put down your immune system with immune suppressants that boost you

up to a healthy state. Buy time and take the capsules with lots of water and on

an empty stomach. Wait at least one or two hours before resuming regular meals

again and after the last night dose, sit up for an hour or half hour until you

are sure the capsule went down where it is supposed to go and does you the most

good. You don't want it lingering in the esophagus as you will get the worse

heart burn you ever had. You'll feel like someone lit a fire within you. It

happened to

me and I drank water till the fire went out. If you continue to have abdominal

problems or esophageal, then take some probiotics or eat something light, but no

dairy with these pills. Save the pudding, cheese and cream for later. The best

to you, Dolores

From: deekudos <deekudos@...>

Subject: rheumatic lurker emerging:)

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:23 AM

Hi,

I have been lurkng for awhile. I have RA and OA. I'm a teacher who

lives with my family (old man mate, young man son, and 2 Labs) in VA.

My hobbies include reading (mysteries in particular), teh dogs (I am

working on getting therapy dog cert), and vegan cooking. This dang

arthritis is greatly interffeing with my life!

I have been on methx and stopped bt still take moobic, 5 mg. pred, and

200 mg bid of plaquenil see a Rheumy who does not realy support AP but

gave me a prescrption for mino, prescribing 200 mg bid. I have been

looking for a knowledgeable AP doc. i read a few rheumatic boards and

when I have contatced the docs recommeneded from the boards, I have

been informed that the doc doesn't do or no longer does AP. Does anyone

know of a doc in or near VA....or a doc worth travelling to?

Your posts have been very informative. I am starting teh AP today, and

plan on 100 mg MWF. I am sure my rheumy will not be pleased and think I

will do better with a doc who is an advocate of AP.

dee

July 23, 2008

Hi Dee,

The only Dr. in VA that I know of who knows about A/P and uses it is Dr.

Norman Levine in Aldie, VA; 703 260 3484. He hopes to relocate to

Winchester when he can but he's currently off of Rt 50. I do not know if he

is taking new patients but I think he's well worth it. I've known about him

since 1986 and have been his patient since 1996. El

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of mike rosner

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:10 PM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic lurker emerging:)

Buy the books, and teach your doc. If he is not receptive, then find a doc

that is. Most Rheumy's think they know it all. Stay away from that kind of

doc. Find someone who is into healing and alternative medicine. Show them

the books. Tell them about A/P. Grab the prescription you got and ask the

doc to make it for 90 days. Then take the three months to find that special

doc who is open to learning something new. Bring copies of all your blood

work, do research and keep track of your progress. When they see you

progressing, the arrogant ones back off or ignore you completely rather than

say they were wrong. The open minded docs will want to know more. Google

MP which is really a different version of A/P only more intense with more

than one antibiotic. Bring all the information you can get your hands on to

each visit. Some docs will toss it and some will read it. But they can't

argue with success. If you have some $$$$ go to

see Dr. Trentham in Boston. From VA., you will have to fly there. He will

put you on Minocin 100mg twice a day right off the bat. He will give you 6

months worth of Minocin (Brand Only) with refills. Get those refills. The

you will have nine months or more to find a doc near you willing to take the

chance. These docs are not taught the A/P in school. They have no clue.

They would rather put down your immune system with immune suppressants that

boost you up to a healthy state. Buy time and take the capsules with lots

of water and on an empty stomach. Wait at least one or two hours before

resuming regular meals again and after the last night dose, sit up for an

hour or half hour until you are sure the capsule went down where it is

supposed to go and does you the most good. You don't want it lingering in

the esophagus as you will get the worse heart burn you ever had. You'll

feel like someone lit a fire within you. It happened to

me and I drank water till the fire went out. If you continue to have

abdominal problems or esophageal, then take some probiotics or eat something

light, but no dairy with these pills. Save the pudding, cheese and cream

for later. The best to you, Dolores

From: deekudos <deekudos (DOT) <mailto:deekudos%40> com>

Subject: rheumatic lurker emerging:)

rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com