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Hi Dolores,

I didn't feel I could explain NAET so I went to a website and found this:

Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques, also known as NAETR, are a

non-invasive, drug free, natural solution to eliminate allergies of all

types and intensities using a blend of selective energy balancing, testing

and treatment procedures from acupuncture/acupressure, allopathy,

chiropractic, nutritional, and kinesiological disciplines of medicine. One

allergen is treated at a time. If you are not severely immune deficient, you

may need just one treatment to desensitize one allergen. A person with mild

to moderate amount of allergies may take about 15-20 office visits to

desensitize 15-20 food and environmental allergens. Basic essential

nutrients are treated during the first few visits. Chemicals, environmental

allergens, vaccinations, immunizations, etc. are treated after completing

about ten basic essential nutrients. NAETR can successfully eliminate

adverse reactions to egg, milk, peanuts, penicillin, aspirin, mushrooms,

shellfish, latex, grass, ragweed, flowers, perfume, animal dander, animal

epithelial, make-up, chemicals, cigarette smoke, pathogens, heat, cold,

other environmental agents. It may take several office visits to desensitize

a severe allergen.NAETR was discovered by Dr. Devi S. Nambudripad in

November of 1983.

My acupuncturist does a type of muscle testing she says is NAET. She has me

hold a vial that contains a particular allergen in my left hand and then

tries to pry my thumb and ring finger from my right hand apart. If she can,

that means I have a reaction to the substance. She then pounds on my spine

while I do different breaths (panting, slow, deep) and then retests. It

does seem to work however it seems to be temporary with me. I understand

this may be because of gut issues but I take probiotics daily, aloe, I use

digestive enzymes, etc. I also read the emails from this wonderful list

server about gut issues and always end up thinking " I already do that " so I

don't think I have gut issues.

I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the vitamin

D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

Has anyone on this list ever tried the Salt and Vitamin C protocol? I am

considering it as the next step in my Lyme's treatment. I just ended AP for

Lyme's (which may or may not have caused a positive test result for RA which

is why I joined this list) after almost three years. I believe the AP

really put the Lyme's (and other diseases) in check but may not get rid of

them completely. So I'm looking for another protocol to avoid any relapse.

I've tried using the lymesstrategies website but it is not like this list

and I find it very difficult to use. So I'm interested in learning of

anyone else's experiences. El

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From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of mike rosner

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:49 PM

rheumatic

Subject: RE: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf

Hi, I might have missed something here. What is Naet? I have sensitivities

to smells also.

~~~~~Dolores

ehgooding <ehgoodingcox (DOT) <mailto:ehgooding%40cox.net> net> wrote:

Hi Emma,

I do fairly well if I avoid chemicals and situations where chemicals are

strong. I cannot go into a new or renovated building, around new paint,

drywall, carpet, etc. I am much less sensitive then two others I know and

yes I do think the AP has helped.

I would like to find a good NAET practitioner and if you know of any in the

DC area please let me know. My acupuncturist has done something like it on

me but I'm not so sure it really worked; at least it doesn't stay. It does

help temporarily. I find I just need to avoid things I know about and

rotate my foods (that really helps overall.) I just worry there are things

I don't know about and that's what keeps me from progressing further.

Please email me privately if you feel this is OT and not of interest to the

group. Thanks for your response. It's always nice to share with others

that deal with this particular disorder and to be in contact with people who

understand. El

_____

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Subject: Re: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf

El,

Are you still suffering from the chemical sensitivity? I've noticed mine is

melting away now that I've been on AP. I've also used NAET but you have to

find

a good practitioner. Hope it gets better,

Emma

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Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D

& just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems

that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what

I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness.

I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is

too high. It's very vague.

If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high?

Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone

agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly

associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make

other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities.

Amy

ehgooding wrote:

>

>

> I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the

> vitamin

> D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

> start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

>

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Hello,

I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on 2000 mg. I

just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my level has gone up. I am

taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now found out too that I have Celiac

Syndrome (another autoimmune problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D

level is up.

Eva

Amy <Evanesce@...> wrote:

Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D

& just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems

that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what

I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness.

I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is

too high. It's very vague.

If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high?

Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone

agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly

associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make

other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities.

Amy

ehgooding wrote:

>

>

> I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the

> vitamin

> D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

> start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

>

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Eva, you only mention your D25,what is your D1,25? The two should have a

ratio of about 1.2.Many people are low on D25 and sky high on

1,25.Stopping all d in your body is the only way to even things out.As

to celiac syndrome 70% of people with any chronic disease has it and

usually does not know.Read up on it at www.celiac.com for help. Lynne G./SD

Eva Holloway wrote:

> Hello,

> I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on

> 2000 mg. I just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my

> level has gone up. I am taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now

> found out too that I have Celiac Syndrome (another autoimmune

> problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D level is up.

>

> Eva

>

> Amy <Evanesce@... <mailto:Evanesce%40rcn.com>> wrote:

> Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D

> & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems

> that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what

> I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness.

>

> I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is

> too high. It's very vague.

>

> If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high?

>

> Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone

> agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly

> associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make

> other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities.

>

> Amy

>

> ehgooding wrote:

> >

> >

> > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the

> > vitamin

> > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

> > start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

> >

>

>

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Hi Amy,did you see the research results that were published this week on

D as a supplement for cancer.The researchers got quite a surprise when

they found out that the group taking D only had no benefit.The group

taking D and calcium had very good results.We all know that is the case

for our bones and no one thought it would have anything to do with cancer.

Amy wrote:

> Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D

> & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems

> that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what

> I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness.

>

> I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is

> too high. It's very vague.

>

> If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high?

>

> Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone

> agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly

> associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make

> other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities.

>

> Amy

>

> ehgooding wrote:

> >

> >

> > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the

> > vitamin

> > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

> > start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

> >

>

>

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Hi EH. Thank you for all the wonderful information. I am putting it in a

special file, so I

can follow through just as soon as I return in about 2-3 weeks. I am leaving

for Fl. this week

and will be off computer till I get back. Get back with you then and again,

My immense gratitude for the informateon on NAET. Dolores & Mike

ehgooding <ehgooding@...> wrote:

Hi Dolores,

I didn't feel I could explain NAET so I went to a website and found this:

Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques, also known as NAETR, are a

non-invasive, drug free, natural solution to eliminate allergies of all

types and intensities using a blend of selective energy balancing, testing

and treatment procedures from acupuncture/acupressure, allopathy,

chiropractic, nutritional, and kinesiological disciplines of medicine. One

allergen is treated at a time. If you are not severely immune deficient, you

may need just one treatment to desensitize one allergen. A person with mild

to moderate amount of allergies may take about 15-20 office visits to

desensitize 15-20 food and environmental allergens. Basic essential

nutrients are treated during the first few visits. Chemicals, environmental

allergens, vaccinations, immunizations, etc. are treated after completing

about ten basic essential nutrients. NAETR can successfully eliminate

adverse reactions to egg, milk, peanuts, penicillin, aspirin, mushrooms,

shellfish, latex, grass, ragweed, flowers, perfume, animal dander, animal

epithelial, make-up, chemicals, cigarette smoke, pathogens, heat, cold,

other environmental agents. It may take several office visits to desensitize

a severe allergen.NAETR was discovered by Dr. Devi S. Nambudripad in

November of 1983.

My acupuncturist does a type of muscle testing she says is NAET. She has me

hold a vial that contains a particular allergen in my left hand and then

tries to pry my thumb and ring finger from my right hand apart. If she can,

that means I have a reaction to the substance. She then pounds on my spine

while I do different breaths (panting, slow, deep) and then retests. It

does seem to work however it seems to be temporary with me. I understand

this may be because of gut issues but I take probiotics daily, aloe, I use

digestive enzymes, etc. I also read the emails from this wonderful list

server about gut issues and always end up thinking " I already do that " so I

don't think I have gut issues.

I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the vitamin

D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to

start the MP, would I need to stop the D?

Has anyone on this list ever tried the Salt and Vitamin C protocol? I am

considering it as the next step in my Lyme's treatment. I just ended AP for

Lyme's (which may or may not have caused a positive test result for RA which

is why I joined this list) after almost three years. I believe the AP

really put the Lyme's (and other diseases) in check but may not get rid of

them completely. So I'm looking for another protocol to avoid any relapse.

I've tried using the lymesstrategies website but it is not like this list

and I find it very difficult to use. So I'm interested in learning of

anyone else's experiences. El

_____

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of mike rosner

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:49 PM

rheumatic

Subject: RE: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf

Hi, I might have missed something here. What is Naet? I have sensitivities

to smells also.

~~~~~Dolores

ehgooding <ehgoodingcox (DOT) <mailto:ehgooding%40cox.net> net> wrote:

Hi Emma,

I do fairly well if I avoid chemicals and situations where chemicals are

strong. I cannot go into a new or renovated building, around new paint,

drywall, carpet, etc. I am much less sensitive then two others I know and

yes I do think the AP has helped.

I would like to find a good NAET practitioner and if you know of any in the

DC area please let me know. My acupuncturist has done something like it on

me but I'm not so sure it really worked; at least it doesn't stay. It does

help temporarily. I find I just need to avoid things I know about and

rotate my foods (that really helps overall.) I just worry there are things

I don't know about and that's what keeps me from progressing further.

Please email me privately if you feel this is OT and not of interest to the

group. Thanks for your response. It's always nice to share with others

that deal with this particular disorder and to be in contact with people who

understand. El

_____

From: rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com

[mailto:rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com] On

Behalf

Of emluv23aol (DOT) <mailto:emluv23%40aol.com> com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:32 PM

rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com

Subject: Re: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf

El,

Are you still suffering from the chemical sensitivity? I've noticed mine is

melting away now that I've been on AP. I've also used NAET but you have to

find

a good practitioner. Hope it gets better,

Emma

**************

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.

<http://body.

<http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>

aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>

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Thanks for the info about the vit D ratio. I am getting mine tested

again in a month.

Do you know where I can find info about this ratio? It would be great

if I could take something to my doctor about the ratio. You probably

already know this, but all the current info out 'there' just talks about

the D25. In fact, most places say that we should only test D25 and

ignore the D1,25 completely - and I could never understand that.

When I first started, the lab tests showed extremely low for both D

tests. The doctor gave me a script for D1,25 ... so my D25 still stayed

below the normal range while my D1,25 went to the middle. That doesn't

sound healthy either, does it? I switched doctors & the new doc only

wants to bother with D3/D25.

Lynne, do you get your vitamin D tested? If so, what do your numbers show?

Amy

lynneandsantos wrote:

>

> Eva, you only mention your D25,what is your D1,25? The two should have a

> ratio of about 1.2.Many people are low on D25 and sky high on

> 1,25.Stopping all d in your body is the only way to even things out.As

> to celiac syndrome 70% of people with any chronic disease has it and

> usually does not know.Read up on it at www.celiac.com for help. Lynne

> G./SD

>

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I have a celiac syndrome too (gluten & casseinate). Also, I have

Hashimoto's. (thyroid antibodies).

It's good you're getting tested. I think the only way to know how much

to supplement (or not) is with vitamin D testing. I've read some who

say that they needed to take 7,000 - 8,000 per day just to get their

levels in the 40's (which is the lower end of the range).

I have been taking 5000 mg of vit D per day which put me in the 60's. I

tried using the sun, but for some reason, I don't convert the sun to

vitamin D. :-(

Amy

Eva Holloway wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on

> 2000 mg. I just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my

> level has gone up. I am taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now

> found out too that I have Celiac Syndrome (another autoimmune

> problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D level is up.

>

> Eva

>

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I don't think I caught that study! Thanks for mentioning this. It

seems to make sense - as vitamin D has something to do with how calcium

is used. Calcium is used by a lot of body parts - especially the heart.

The study I been hearing about this week is the one about low vitamin D

& strokes. This study seemed relevant to me - because I have

calcification in the arteries in part from taking bone supplements

(calcium - magnesium) when I had super low vitamin D levels.

If you get the time to write, I would love to hear about how your

vitamin D levels are.

Amy

lynneandsantos wrote:

>

> Hi Amy,did you see the research results that were published this week on

> D as a supplement for cancer.The researchers got quite a surprise when

> they found out that the group taking D only had no benefit.The group

> taking D and calcium had very good results.We all know that is the case

> for our bones and no one thought it would have anything to do with cancer.

>

> Amy wrote:

>

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