Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hi Dolores, I didn't feel I could explain NAET so I went to a website and found this: Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques, also known as NAETR, are a non-invasive, drug free, natural solution to eliminate allergies of all types and intensities using a blend of selective energy balancing, testing and treatment procedures from acupuncture/acupressure, allopathy, chiropractic, nutritional, and kinesiological disciplines of medicine. One allergen is treated at a time. If you are not severely immune deficient, you may need just one treatment to desensitize one allergen. A person with mild to moderate amount of allergies may take about 15-20 office visits to desensitize 15-20 food and environmental allergens. Basic essential nutrients are treated during the first few visits. Chemicals, environmental allergens, vaccinations, immunizations, etc. are treated after completing about ten basic essential nutrients. NAETR can successfully eliminate adverse reactions to egg, milk, peanuts, penicillin, aspirin, mushrooms, shellfish, latex, grass, ragweed, flowers, perfume, animal dander, animal epithelial, make-up, chemicals, cigarette smoke, pathogens, heat, cold, other environmental agents. It may take several office visits to desensitize a severe allergen.NAETR was discovered by Dr. Devi S. Nambudripad in November of 1983. My acupuncturist does a type of muscle testing she says is NAET. She has me hold a vial that contains a particular allergen in my left hand and then tries to pry my thumb and ring finger from my right hand apart. If she can, that means I have a reaction to the substance. She then pounds on my spine while I do different breaths (panting, slow, deep) and then retests. It does seem to work however it seems to be temporary with me. I understand this may be because of gut issues but I take probiotics daily, aloe, I use digestive enzymes, etc. I also read the emails from this wonderful list server about gut issues and always end up thinking " I already do that " so I don't think I have gut issues. I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the vitamin D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to start the MP, would I need to stop the D? Has anyone on this list ever tried the Salt and Vitamin C protocol? I am considering it as the next step in my Lyme's treatment. I just ended AP for Lyme's (which may or may not have caused a positive test result for RA which is why I joined this list) after almost three years. I believe the AP really put the Lyme's (and other diseases) in check but may not get rid of them completely. So I'm looking for another protocol to avoid any relapse. I've tried using the lymesstrategies website but it is not like this list and I find it very difficult to use. So I'm interested in learning of anyone else's experiences. El _____ From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of mike rosner Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:49 PM rheumatic Subject: RE: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf Hi, I might have missed something here. What is Naet? I have sensitivities to smells also. ~~~~~Dolores ehgooding <ehgoodingcox (DOT) <mailto:ehgooding%40cox.net> net> wrote: Hi Emma, I do fairly well if I avoid chemicals and situations where chemicals are strong. I cannot go into a new or renovated building, around new paint, drywall, carpet, etc. I am much less sensitive then two others I know and yes I do think the AP has helped. I would like to find a good NAET practitioner and if you know of any in the DC area please let me know. My acupuncturist has done something like it on me but I'm not so sure it really worked; at least it doesn't stay. It does help temporarily. I find I just need to avoid things I know about and rotate my foods (that really helps overall.) I just worry there are things I don't know about and that's what keeps me from progressing further. Please email me privately if you feel this is OT and not of interest to the group. Thanks for your response. It's always nice to share with others that deal with this particular disorder and to be in contact with people who understand. El _____ From: rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com [mailto:rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com] On Behalf Of emluv23aol (DOT) <mailto:emluv23%40aol.com> com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:32 PM rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com Subject: Re: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf El, Are you still suffering from the chemical sensitivity? I've noticed mine is melting away now that I've been on AP. I've also used NAET but you have to find a good practitioner. Hope it gets better, Emma ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. <http://body. <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness. I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is too high. It's very vague. If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high? Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities. Amy ehgooding wrote: > > > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the > vitamin > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to > start the MP, would I need to stop the D? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hello, I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on 2000 mg. I just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my level has gone up. I am taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now found out too that I have Celiac Syndrome (another autoimmune problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D level is up. Eva Amy <Evanesce@...> wrote: Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness. I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is too high. It's very vague. If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high? Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities. Amy ehgooding wrote: > > > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the > vitamin > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to > start the MP, would I need to stop the D? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Eva, you only mention your D25,what is your D1,25? The two should have a ratio of about 1.2.Many people are low on D25 and sky high on 1,25.Stopping all d in your body is the only way to even things out.As to celiac syndrome 70% of people with any chronic disease has it and usually does not know.Read up on it at www.celiac.com for help. Lynne G./SD Eva Holloway wrote: > Hello, > I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on > 2000 mg. I just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my > level has gone up. I am taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now > found out too that I have Celiac Syndrome (another autoimmune > problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D level is up. > > Eva > > Amy <Evanesce@... <mailto:Evanesce%40rcn.com>> wrote: > Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D > & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems > that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what > I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness. > > I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is > too high. It's very vague. > > If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high? > > Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone > agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly > associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make > other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities. > > Amy > > ehgooding wrote: > > > > > > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the > > vitamin > > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to > > start the MP, would I need to stop the D? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hi Amy,did you see the research results that were published this week on D as a supplement for cancer.The researchers got quite a surprise when they found out that the group taking D only had no benefit.The group taking D and calcium had very good results.We all know that is the case for our bones and no one thought it would have anything to do with cancer. Amy wrote: > Hi, El. This is my question too. I was severely deficient in vitamin D > & just recently got my D3 test level at a good number. (64). It seems > that my D was probably very low for a very long time - and from what > I've read, this may be a contributing factor to my illness. > > I have not found a source for the MP that says how high of Vitamin D is > too high. It's very vague. > > If my vit D level in middle of the normal range, is that too high? > > Vitamin D is so important to so many things. Pretty much everyone > agrees that low vit D will cause osteoporosis. It's also highly > associated with cancer and immune disorders. Vit D is required to make > other hormones, enzymes, & hundreds of metabolic activities. > > Amy > > ehgooding wrote: > > > > > > I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the > > vitamin > > D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to > > start the MP, would I need to stop the D? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Hi EH. Thank you for all the wonderful information. I am putting it in a special file, so I can follow through just as soon as I return in about 2-3 weeks. I am leaving for Fl. this week and will be off computer till I get back. Get back with you then and again, My immense gratitude for the informateon on NAET. Dolores & Mike ehgooding <ehgooding@...> wrote: Hi Dolores, I didn't feel I could explain NAET so I went to a website and found this: Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques, also known as NAETR, are a non-invasive, drug free, natural solution to eliminate allergies of all types and intensities using a blend of selective energy balancing, testing and treatment procedures from acupuncture/acupressure, allopathy, chiropractic, nutritional, and kinesiological disciplines of medicine. One allergen is treated at a time. If you are not severely immune deficient, you may need just one treatment to desensitize one allergen. A person with mild to moderate amount of allergies may take about 15-20 office visits to desensitize 15-20 food and environmental allergens. Basic essential nutrients are treated during the first few visits. Chemicals, environmental allergens, vaccinations, immunizations, etc. are treated after completing about ten basic essential nutrients. NAETR can successfully eliminate adverse reactions to egg, milk, peanuts, penicillin, aspirin, mushrooms, shellfish, latex, grass, ragweed, flowers, perfume, animal dander, animal epithelial, make-up, chemicals, cigarette smoke, pathogens, heat, cold, other environmental agents. It may take several office visits to desensitize a severe allergen.NAETR was discovered by Dr. Devi S. Nambudripad in November of 1983. My acupuncturist does a type of muscle testing she says is NAET. She has me hold a vial that contains a particular allergen in my left hand and then tries to pry my thumb and ring finger from my right hand apart. If she can, that means I have a reaction to the substance. She then pounds on my spine while I do different breaths (panting, slow, deep) and then retests. It does seem to work however it seems to be temporary with me. I understand this may be because of gut issues but I take probiotics daily, aloe, I use digestive enzymes, etc. I also read the emails from this wonderful list server about gut issues and always end up thinking " I already do that " so I don't think I have gut issues. I am really interested in the MP but am also very confused about the vitamin D issue. I am deficient and need to take 2000 IU daily. So if I were to start the MP, would I need to stop the D? Has anyone on this list ever tried the Salt and Vitamin C protocol? I am considering it as the next step in my Lyme's treatment. I just ended AP for Lyme's (which may or may not have caused a positive test result for RA which is why I joined this list) after almost three years. I believe the AP really put the Lyme's (and other diseases) in check but may not get rid of them completely. So I'm looking for another protocol to avoid any relapse. I've tried using the lymesstrategies website but it is not like this list and I find it very difficult to use. So I'm interested in learning of anyone else's experiences. El _____ From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of mike rosner Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:49 PM rheumatic Subject: RE: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf Hi, I might have missed something here. What is Naet? I have sensitivities to smells also. ~~~~~Dolores ehgooding <ehgoodingcox (DOT) <mailto:ehgooding%40cox.net> net> wrote: Hi Emma, I do fairly well if I avoid chemicals and situations where chemicals are strong. I cannot go into a new or renovated building, around new paint, drywall, carpet, etc. I am much less sensitive then two others I know and yes I do think the AP has helped. I would like to find a good NAET practitioner and if you know of any in the DC area please let me know. My acupuncturist has done something like it on me but I'm not so sure it really worked; at least it doesn't stay. It does help temporarily. I find I just need to avoid things I know about and rotate my foods (that really helps overall.) I just worry there are things I don't know about and that's what keeps me from progressing further. Please email me privately if you feel this is OT and not of interest to the group. Thanks for your response. It's always nice to share with others that deal with this particular disorder and to be in contact with people who understand. El _____ From: rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com [mailto:rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com] On Behalf Of emluv23aol (DOT) <mailto:emluv23%40aol.com> com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:32 PM rheumatic@grou <mailto:rheumatic%40> ps.com Subject: Re: rheumatic FW: Emailing: SaveMyBHRT_Patient_Handout_FINAL.pdf El, Are you still suffering from the chemical sensitivity? I've noticed mine is melting away now that I've been on AP. I've also used NAET but you have to find a good practitioner. Hope it gets better, Emma ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body. <http://body. <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thanks for the info about the vit D ratio. I am getting mine tested again in a month. Do you know where I can find info about this ratio? It would be great if I could take something to my doctor about the ratio. You probably already know this, but all the current info out 'there' just talks about the D25. In fact, most places say that we should only test D25 and ignore the D1,25 completely - and I could never understand that. When I first started, the lab tests showed extremely low for both D tests. The doctor gave me a script for D1,25 ... so my D25 still stayed below the normal range while my D1,25 went to the middle. That doesn't sound healthy either, does it? I switched doctors & the new doc only wants to bother with D3/D25. Lynne, do you get your vitamin D tested? If so, what do your numbers show? Amy lynneandsantos wrote: > > Eva, you only mention your D25,what is your D1,25? The two should have a > ratio of about 1.2.Many people are low on D25 and sky high on > 1,25.Stopping all d in your body is the only way to even things out.As > to celiac syndrome 70% of people with any chronic disease has it and > usually does not know.Read up on it at www.celiac.com for help. Lynne > G./SD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I have a celiac syndrome too (gluten & casseinate). Also, I have Hashimoto's. (thyroid antibodies). It's good you're getting tested. I think the only way to know how much to supplement (or not) is with vitamin D testing. I've read some who say that they needed to take 7,000 - 8,000 per day just to get their levels in the 40's (which is the lower end of the range). I have been taking 5000 mg of vit D per day which put me in the 60's. I tried using the sun, but for some reason, I don't convert the sun to vitamin D. :-( Amy Eva Holloway wrote: > > Hello, > I found out that my vit D level was only 17 so my doctor put me on > 2000 mg. I just had another blood test done and I am waiting if my > level has gone up. I am taking Biaxin for my a RA & DM plus I now > found out too that I have Celiac Syndrome (another autoimmune > problem). I do feel better so hopefully y vit D level is up. > > Eva > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I don't think I caught that study! Thanks for mentioning this. It seems to make sense - as vitamin D has something to do with how calcium is used. Calcium is used by a lot of body parts - especially the heart. The study I been hearing about this week is the one about low vitamin D & strokes. This study seemed relevant to me - because I have calcification in the arteries in part from taking bone supplements (calcium - magnesium) when I had super low vitamin D levels. If you get the time to write, I would love to hear about how your vitamin D levels are. Amy lynneandsantos wrote: > > Hi Amy,did you see the research results that were published this week on > D as a supplement for cancer.The researchers got quite a surprise when > they found out that the group taking D only had no benefit.The group > taking D and calcium had very good results.We all know that is the case > for our bones and no one thought it would have anything to do with cancer. > > Amy wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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