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Well now, I am on my official 41st year of raising my own children and the oldest 4 as a child. I think God should recognize that I have had enough! From: Elgamal <cindyelgamal@...> Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 12:15:57 PMSubject: RE:

( ) Newbie

I used to say the good Lord looked at me after 14 years of

raising children and said, “You still have not learned to be patient. You will

learn now!†LOL!!

From:

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Behalf Of Lori

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:53 AM

Subject: Re: ( ) Newbie

One

thing we know about AS - if we don't have patience BEFORE we have a child with

AS, you will FIND it after. I definitely fit into this

category. :) Each day is a test of patience for me. Things do

get better - even if it's only temporary. I love the summers now - I have

little to no stress - but the school year is approaching - and who knows what

will happen then. ;)

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From: or Sandee Culliton

Sent: Friday, July 30,

2010 11:28 AM

Subject: Re:

( ) Newbie

Thanks!

I feel a little better.. I have my own bout of depression starting today for

some reason..

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From: Lori

Sent: Friday, July 30,

2010 8:27 AM

Subject: Re:

( ) Newbie

Sandee,

I

can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have to have

medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for the

medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects. I'm

the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back.

:) I just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and

I know I'm trying to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I

gave up worrying about what other people think or suggest. They don't

know AS like we do! :) 2mg has been going very well - we are definitely

seeing results. Supposedly, the theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are

seeing results now. And the grouchyness has faded - just give it

time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you increase - you may need to split

dosing, or move dosing to evening, but talk with your doc about that

before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away from the start of school

too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just typing those words. Ugh!

Lori

( ) Newbie

Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is

Sonya and I live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with

Aspergers a few months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She

is high functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work

is suffering because she doesn’t focus on the work she needs to do because she

wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession),

cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant, wash

her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

desperately wants to fit in and just can’t. I can’t wait to talk to other

people with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful!

Any hints and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be

appreciated and what has everyone done about encouraging hygiene? My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I

am very lucky in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is

hope J Sonya

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I'm with you ! My son was 9 when my daughter was born. Maybe God just thought that I'd had it too easy for much to long, and decided to present me with a challenge - to enhance my non-existant patience. :)

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Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya and I live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with Aspergers a few months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work is suffering because she doesn’t focus on the work she needs to do because she wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession), cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant, wash her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she desperately wants to fit in and just can’t. I can’t wait to talk to other people with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful! Any hints and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated and what has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am very lucky in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

Sonya

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The little girl we know who takes Keppra has just started on Lamictal in

addition (Keppra is no longer enough to control seizures). They are at a very

low dose, working slowly up to therapeutic levels so they can watch for signs of

s-. Would you mind telling me the early signs you saw for that? I

would like to be able to tell my friend. So far, all she has seen is increased

irritability.

Thanks,

Bridget

> > >

> > > Sandee,

> > >

> > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have to

> >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for the

> >medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects. I'm

> >the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back. :)

I

> >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm

trying

> >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up

worrying

> >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do! :)

> >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results. Supposedly,

the

> >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the

grouchyness

> >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

> >increase - you may need to split dosing, or move dosing to evening, but talk

> >with your doc about that before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away from

> >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just typing

> >those words. Ugh!

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > ( ) Newbie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya and I

> >live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with Aspergers a

few

> >months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high

> >functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work is

> >suffering because she doesn't focus on the work she needs to do because she

> >wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession),

> >cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant, wash

> >her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

> >desperately wants to fit in and just can't. I can't wait to talk to other

people

> >with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful! Any

hints

> >and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated and

what

> >has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

> > >

> > > My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am very

lucky

> >in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

> > >

> > > Sonya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

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She developed rashes. The first rash was a flat under the skin rash, like mottling. Dr. just called it a virus.. then it went away then came back but this time it was a prickly rash, raised like little white bumps.. Again the doctor poo-pooed it.. but did a CBC to see if she had an infection. Somewhere along the line someone ordered liver blood work. Her white count came back really low twice, and then her liver studies came back and where it was supposed to be 17, it was 475. Along the way she also seemed to have a reaction to an antibiotic salve that was ordered for the hole in her ear. She had mysteriously developed a hole in her outer ear. The Pediatrician said it was impetigo and ordered bactriban ointment for it. After we put it in her ear her whole face swelled up and went red. I found

her asleep at home and could hardly wake her. I had to take her to the ER and they did blood work, CT scan and gave her benadryl IV . Looking back, I think it was not impetigo but part of the s-. Eventually, a spot of skin and flesh on her arm started sloughing off .. Just a small spot. I now believe that is what was happening in her ear too.. Anyway, when the liver test came back so high, the doctors sat up and finally took note. Called us immediately and said, "Stop the Lamictal immediately! They then put her on Keppra and it has worked fine.. Lamictal is actually a good drug for most people. My dd is just allergic to a lot of drugs and this is one of them. So, to sum it up , rashes and sloughing of skin are the signs parents would notice. From: bridget <beanniferj@...> Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 10:10:29 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Newbie

The little girl we know who takes Keppra has just started on Lamictal in addition (Keppra is no longer enough to control seizures). They are at a very low dose, working slowly up to therapeutic levels so they can watch for signs of s-. Would you mind telling me the early signs you saw for that? I would like to be able to tell my friend. So far, all she has seen is increased irritability.

Thanks,

Bridget

> > >

> > > Sandee,

> > >

> > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have to

> >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for the

> >medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects. I'm

> >the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back. :) I

> >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm trying

> >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up worrying

> >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do! :)

> >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results. Supposedly, the

> >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the grouchyness

> >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

> >increase - you may need to split dosing, or move dosing to evening, but talk

> >with your doc about that before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away from

> >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just typing

> >those words. Ugh!

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> > > ( ) Newbie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya and I

> >live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with Aspergers a few

> >months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high

> >functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work is

> >suffering because she doesn't focus on the work she needs to do because she

> >wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession),

> >cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant, wash

> >her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

> >desperately wants to fit in and just can't. I can't wait to talk to other people

> >with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful! Any hints

> >and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated and what

> >has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

> > >

> > > My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am very lucky

> >in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

> > >

> > > Sonya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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> >02:34:00

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> >

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Thank you - I will be sure to let my friend know what to watch for! Thank

goodness you figured out what was going on in time - it must have been very

frightening.

Bridget

> > > >

> > > > Sandee,

> > > >

> > > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have

to

> > >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for

the

>

> > >medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects.

I'm

>

> > >the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back. :)

I

> >

> > >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm

> >trying

> >

> > >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up

worrying

> >

> > >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do!

:)

> > >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results.

Supposedly,

> >the

> >

> > >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the

> >grouchyness

> >

> > >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

> > >increase - you may need to split dosing, or move dosing to evening, but

talk

> > >with your doc about that before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away

from

>

> > >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just

typing

> > >those words. Ugh!

> > > >

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > > > ( ) Newbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya and

I

>

> > >live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with

Aspergers a

> >few

> >

> > >months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high

> > >functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work is

> > >suffering because she doesn't focus on the work she needs to do because she

> > >wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession),

> > >cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant,

wash

>

> > >her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

> > >desperately wants to fit in and just can't. I can't wait to talk to other

> >people

> >

> > >with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful! Any

> >hints

> >

> > >and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated and

> >what

> >

> > >has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

> > > >

> > > > My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am very

> >lucky

> >

> > >in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

> > > >

> > > > Sonya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date:

> > >07/29/10 02:34:00

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date:

07/29/10

>

> > >02:34:00

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You're welcome. It was stressful. The whole year was a mess. hopefully this year will be better! From: bridget <beanniferj@...> Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 1:03:55 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Newbie

Thank you - I will be sure to let my friend know what to watch for! Thank goodness you figured out what was going on in time - it must have been very frightening.

Bridget

> > > >

> > > > Sandee,

> > > >

> > > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have to

> > >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for the

>

> > >medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects. I'm

>

> > >the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back. :) I

> >

> > >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm

> >trying

> >

> > >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up worrying

> >

> > >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do! :)

> > >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results. Supposedly,

> >the

> >

> > >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the

> >grouchyness

> >

> > >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

> > >increase - you may need to split dosing, or move dosing to evening, but talk

> > >with your doc about that before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away from

>

> > >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just typing

> > >those words. Ugh!

> > > >

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > > > ( ) Newbie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya and I

>

> > >live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with Aspergers a

> >few

> >

> > >months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high

> > >functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work is

> > >suffering because she doesn't focus on the work she needs to do because she

> > >wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her obsession),

> > >cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant, wash

>

> > >her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

> > >desperately wants to fit in and just can't. I can't wait to talk to other

> >people

> >

> > >with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful! Any

> >hints

> >

> > >and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated and

> >what

> >

> > >has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

> > > >

> > > > My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am very

> >lucky

> >

> > >in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

> > > >

> > > > Sonya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date:

> > >07/29/10 02:34:00

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date: 07/29/10

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> > >02:34:00

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I forwarded your information with s- to my friend, and she

mentioned that her daughter has recently developed a rash around her waistband.

Don't know if it is related, but I am grateful that thanks to you they have the

information they need to be on the alert. Apparently when the child started the

Lamictal, the doctor made it sound like symptoms for s- are always

so severe they cannot be missed. I often find that the personal experience of a

parent who has seen something first hand can be more valuable than that of a

doctor, no matter how good they are, who has only read about it in a book.

Thanks again,

Bridget

> > > > >

> > > > > Sandee,

> > > > >

> > > > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have

to

> >

> > > >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for

> >the

> >

> >

> > > >medication that works best for her, and that has the fewest side effects.

> >I'm

> >

> >

> > > >the target too - sometimes I think I should paint a bullseye on my back.

:)

> >I

> >

> > >

> > > >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm

> > >trying

> > >

> > > >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up

> >worrying

> >

> > >

> > > >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do!

:)

> >

> > > >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results.

Supposedly,

> >

> > >the

> > >

> > > >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the

> > >grouchyness

> > >

> > > >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

> > > >increase - you may need to split dosing, or move dosing to evening, but

talk

> >

> > > >with your doc about that before you change anything) We are 2 weeks away

> >from

> >

> >

> > > >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just

typing

> >

> > > >those words. Ugh!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lori

> > > > >

> > > > > ( ) Newbie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone, I have just joined this group, my name is Sonya

and

> >I

> >

> >

> > > >live in Australia, my 15 ½ year old daughter was diagnosed with

Aspergers

> >a

> >

> > >few

> > >

> > > >months ago and we have been working through it ever since. She is high

> > > >functioning but as you all know there are still issues, her school work

is

> > > >suffering because she doesn't focus on the work she needs to do because

she

>

> > > >wants to get back on the computer and watch anime (this is her

obsession),

> > > >cleanliness is another issue.. constantly nagging her to wear deodorant,

> >wash

> >

> >

> > > >her hair etc and she has social problems which break my heart because she

> > > >desperately wants to fit in and just can't. I can't wait to talk to other

> > >people

> > >

> > > >with similar issues, just feeling not alone is going to be so helpful!

Any

> > >hints

> > >

> > > >and tips on maybe controlling the obsession a bit would be appreciated

and

> > >what

> > >

> > > >has everyone done about encouraging hygiene?

> > > > >

> > > > > My daughter is very rarely defiant or angry so I know I am

very

> > >lucky

> > >

> > > >in that respect and she is open to helping herself... so there is hope J

> > > > >

> > > > > Sonya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date:

> > > >07/29/10 02:34:00

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3036 - Release Date:

> >07/29/10

> >

> >

> > > >02:34:00

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> > > >

> > >

> >

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That doctor probably just doesn't notice it until it is so bad it is severe! None of the doctors took her rash seriously until the lab tests that were done for some other reason came back with the liver results. Then the lights went on.. that's why we caught it before real damage was done. From: bridget <beanniferj@...> Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 1:25:19 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Newbie

I forwarded your information with s- to my friend, and she mentioned that her daughter has recently developed a rash around her waistband. Don't know if it is related, but I am grateful that thanks to you they have the information they need to be on the alert. Apparently when the child started the Lamictal, the doctor made it sound like symptoms for s- are always so severe they cannot be missed. I often find that the personal experience of a parent who has seen something first hand can be more valuable than that of a doctor, no matter how good they are, who has only read about it in a book.

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> > > > > Sandee,

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> > > > > I can sympathize with the guilt, but we are in the same boat - we have to

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> > > >have medication of some kind. And 3 years later, we're still looking for

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> > > >just don't take it personally anymore. I know I love her, and I know I'm

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> > > >to make the best and most educated decisions I can for her. I gave up

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> > > >about what other people think or suggest. They don't know AS like we do! :)

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> > > >2mg has been going very well - we are definitely seeing results. Supposedly,

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> > > >theraputic level is at 4mg, but we are seeing results now. And the

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> > > >has faded - just give it time. (Just watch for increased tiredness as you

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> > > >the start of school too....I can feel my blood pressure increase just typing

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I am sending this on for in SC as it was sent only to me but intended for

all to read.

carol

Thanks to Maz, cooky, Carol, Cheryl fro your kind words of welcome and to all

for allowing me to check this out. No, I haven't read any books on the subject

of AT yet. I joined this group before I went to bed last night, so I haven't

gone through the data base yet. Hadn't considered that my Rheumy may not know

exactly what he is doing UNTIL I remembered all of my past Docs and their

foibles. Sure, they are only human and subject to what they have learned as

gospel in Med School and in practice. But unless your chart is in the box, I

really wonder if they consider you at all with as busy as they are. So that is

my job. Learn. Separate the grain from the chaff I guess and roll on.

The multiple medical issues that I live with are a tad daunting- just from shear

numbers, not because any one of them are a big hairy deal that I can't cope

with. I have AS, RA, OA, Fibro, heart disease, Neuropathy, various areas of

nerve damage, high cholesterol, DDD ( Disinegrating Disc Disease ), HBP, GERD,

Diabetes, asthma, mixed incontinence and am waiting on bloodwork for Cancer to

come back.

Many of these issues stem from others and being unable to excersize. I walk with

a cane and not much of that happens either. I have drastically changed how I eat

to get my cholesterol, heart disease, asthma and Diabetes under control and had

lost 37 pounds when I decided to quit smoking and went on the Chantix. I felt

odd and about 3 weeks into it started having RA symptoms. I think maybe that the

Chantix triggered ( not caused ) the RA to rear it's ugly head. Whatever- it's

here now and I can't ignore THAT. I have cut down my smoking from 4 packs a day

to one or a little less- but get so stressed out with everything that I can't

seem to put them down for good just yet. Stupid, I know.

My last Doc had me on quadruple the dose of Prednisone than RA protocol calls

for and now I have cataracts from that. Grrrrr. Since 1997 when I ruptured my

first disc, it has been one diagnosis after another and has been very

overwhelming for me. This year's blueplate special was RA and GERD and now

awaiting the cancer DX. Forgive me if I sound whiney- I don't feel like I am-

just angry and disgusted with myself and the medical profession. Eternally

waiting for an appointment at a specialist of some description and praying to

God that they know what the heck they are doing. I am learning all I can and

then I will make a choice about how I want to be treated and will find the

appropriate Doc to do that with. I am on 19 different medications and when I run

them through a drug checker- it is red flag city. Scares the crap outta me. I

don't want to be scared any more.

Thanks for reading this mess and allowing me to share. Sorry for the length.

in SC

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glad you are taking one step at a time. We all do specially if you have multiple

health issues. Order the book " The new arthritis breakthrough " about Dr. Brown,

written by Henry Scammell. You can get it at amazon.com, they have gently used

books and they are lot less costly. I even bought one for my daughters doctor

because he wanted to know what it was all about after I had talked to him (my

daughter has RA and so do I).

Stay positive,

Eva

From: Bob & Carol Zarn <bczarn@...>

Subject: rheumatic newbie

rheumatic

Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 6:22 PM

 

I am sending this on for in SC as it was sent only to me but

intended for all to read.

carol

Thanks to Maz, cooky, Carol, Cheryl fro your kind words of welcome and to all

for allowing me to check this out. No, I haven't read any books on the subject

of AT yet. I joined this group before I went to bed last night, so I haven't

gone through the data base yet. Hadn't considered that my Rheumy may not know

exactly what he is doing UNTIL I remembered all of my past Docs and their

foibles. Sure, they are only human and subject to what they have learned as

gospel in Med School and in practice. But unless your chart is in the box, I

really wonder if they consider you at all with as busy as they are. So that is

my job. Learn. Separate the grain from the chaff I guess and roll on.

The multiple medical issues that I live with are a tad daunting- just from shear

numbers, not because any one of them are a big hairy deal that I can't cope

with. I have AS, RA, OA, Fibro, heart disease, Neuropathy, various areas of

nerve damage, high cholesterol, DDD ( Disinegrating Disc Disease ), HBP, GERD,

Diabetes, asthma, mixed incontinence and am waiting on bloodwork for Cancer to

come back.

Many of these issues stem from others and being unable to excersize. I walk with

a cane and not much of that happens either. I have drastically changed how I eat

to get my cholesterol, heart disease, asthma and Diabetes under control and had

lost 37 pounds when I decided to quit smoking and went on the Chantix. I felt

odd and about 3 weeks into it started having RA symptoms. I think maybe that the

Chantix triggered ( not caused ) the RA to rear it's ugly head. Whatever- it's

here now and I can't ignore THAT. I have cut down my smoking from 4 packs a day

to one or a little less- but get so stressed out with everything that I can't

seem to put them down for good just yet. Stupid, I know.

My last Doc had me on quadruple the dose of Prednisone than RA protocol calls

for and now I have cataracts from that. Grrrrr. Since 1997 when I ruptured my

first disc, it has been one diagnosis after another and has been very

overwhelming for me. This year's blueplate special was RA and GERD and now

awaiting the cancer DX. Forgive me if I sound whiney- I don't feel like I am-

just angry and disgusted with myself and the medical profession. Eternally

waiting for an appointment at a specialist of some description and praying to

God that they know what the heck they are doing. I am learning all I can and

then I will make a choice about how I want to be treated and will find the

appropriate Doc to do that with. I am on 19 different medications and when I run

them through a drug checker- it is red flag city. Scares the crap outta me. I

don't want to be scared any more.

Thanks for reading this mess and allowing me to share. Sorry for the length.

in SC

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You should read Children With Starving Brains to get some good background on

this issue. Also, one of the more knowledgeable posters will likely post

shortly with more info.

Welcome!

Monika

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From: Sharol <sharol.taylor@...>

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 10:42:36 AM

Subject: [ ] Newbie

I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

(has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I want

to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he had

a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped inoculating

him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or SAFE.

So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

Mercury, Iron?

If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

to have them done at?

We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

Any help welcome.

Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

etc)

Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

etc. (if not any suggestions)

As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

Same with washing bedding etc.

Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

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STOP vaxxing both of them or you'll have two kid's showing Autistic behavior.

The tipping point for girls is higher due to different brain organization of

boys and girls.

Get them both a hair test. She will be as toxic as he is, if not more. Hair

elements test from DDI.

Chelate them both.

>

> I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

> (has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

>

> Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I want

> to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

>

> He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he had

> a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

>

> Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped inoculating

> him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

> least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

>

>

>

> I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

> is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

> inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or SAFE.

>

>

>

> So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

> Mercury, Iron?

>

> If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

> to have them done at?

>

> We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

>

>

>

> Any help welcome.

>

> Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

> etc)

>

> Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

> etc. (if not any suggestions)

>

> As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

>

> On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

>

> Same with washing bedding etc.

>

> Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

>

>

>

> What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We stopped vaccinating when they were infants... my husband wanted to start

our daughter back up and I have said NO. (since girls are less likely to get

autism, and she has never showed symptoms... but I disagree since she also

reacted with their first injections)

What should I ask for in the HAIR test? What exactly are they to test for?

What is DDI?

Where can I find a detailed Chelate procedure with what I need to buy

including brands?

Like I said I am BRAND NEW to this?

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On Behalf Of ladyshrink222

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Newbie

STOP vaxxing both of them or you'll have two kid's showing Autistic

behavior. The tipping point for girls is higher due to different brain

organization of boys and girls.

Get them both a hair test. She will be as toxic as he is, if not more. Hair

elements test from DDI.

Chelate them both.

>

> I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

> (has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

>

> Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I

want

> to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

>

> He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he

had

> a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

>

> Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped

inoculating

> him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

> least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

>

>

>

> I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

> is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

> inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or

SAFE.

>

>

>

> So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

> Mercury, Iron?

>

> If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

> to have them done at?

>

> We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

>

>

>

> Any help welcome.

>

> Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

> etc)

>

> Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

> etc. (if not any suggestions)

>

> As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

>

> On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

>

> Same with washing bedding etc.

>

> Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

>

>

>

> What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I would get the list of all he was given--manufacturer's brands etc.--and then

you'll know what was injected into his body.

Look up on nvic.com to find out ingredients of the vaccines.

Barb

[ ] Newbie

I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

(has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I want

to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he had

a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped inoculating

him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or SAFE.

So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

Mercury, Iron?

If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

to have them done at?

We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

Any help welcome.

Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

etc)

Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

etc. (if not any suggestions)

As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

Same with washing bedding etc.

Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

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Look for post # 291332 and 291331. I sent these posts to the list for you and

most if not all your questions are answered there. Good luck!

And true girls have less incidence of ASD, but we have plenty of girls here,

they're in no way immune.

> >

> > I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

> > (has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

> >

> > Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I

> want

> > to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

> >

> > He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he

> had

> > a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

> >

> > Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped

> inoculating

> > him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

> > least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

> > is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

> > inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or

> SAFE.

> >

> >

> >

> > So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

> > Mercury, Iron?

> >

> > If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

> > to have them done at?

> >

> > We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

> >

> >

> >

> > Any help welcome.

> >

> > Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

> > etc)

> >

> > Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

> > etc. (if not any suggestions)

> >

> > As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

> >

> > On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

> >

> > Same with washing bedding etc.

> >

> > Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

> >

> >

> >

> > What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I don't know if you have read the files, but they are great and very helpful.

You asked about pajamas. I don't know if others would agree, but we just look

for cotton; we stay away from flame retardant anything (so, we also make sure

the pajamas are tight fitting and not loose in case of a real fire). I wash my

kids clothes in a squirt of Dr. Bronners soaps, so I stay away from chemicals;

peppermint doesn't smell like peppermint when the clothes are washed. I also

use a small amount of it mixed with water in our foam soap dispenser...Dr.

Bronners saves a ton of money. Just some ideas.

I think diets are kind of a personal decision. So many kids are on so many

diets, or none at all. It depends on the kid, the situation, etc. It's all in

the files.

Martha

>

> I would get the list of all he was given--manufacturer's brands etc.--and then

you'll know what was injected into his body.

>

> Look up on nvic.com to find out ingredients of the vaccines.

>

> Barb

> [ ] Newbie

>

>

>

> I have a son that is starting to show autistic behaviors... he is a twin

> (has a twin sister)... she shows no symptoms.

>

> Since it has really only been the last year that these seem apparent, I want

> to make sure nothing environmental is contributing.

>

> He is 6 1/2 now, we only gave him the first rounds of injections, and he had

> a poor reaction... he was very ill high fever for three days.

>

> Since we never had a reaction before, I was worried and stopped inoculating

> him as well as his twin sister. (though my husband is pressuring me to at

> least inoculate his twin sister so he is SAFER)

>

> I don't want to just starting TREATNG him without testing, as I think that

> is a major issue with the medical field to begin with is drugging and

> inoculating without ever checking current levels and what is NEEDED or SAFE.

>

> So where can I find a basic list of items that I should have tested for?

> Mercury, Iron?

>

> If Kaiser will not do them, what is a good clinic or center that I can pay

> to have them done at?

>

> We are in Southern California (Temecula area)... anyone else in this area?

>

> Any help welcome.

>

> Are there basic dietary changes we can start now? (not ready for cleanses

> etc)

>

> Is there a good journal form to track what we are doing, dietary changes

> etc. (if not any suggestions)

>

> As well as behaviors? (again any suggestions)

>

> On the PJ's how can we tell what ones are SAFE as far as chemicals?

>

> Same with washing bedding etc.

>

> Are the Tempur-pedic beds SAFE or better?

>

> What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

>

>

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>

>

> What are some good blogs or journals that moms have kept?

>

>

>

In addition to checking the files section, there is this site (linked on the

front page of autism treatment):

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/LOVE_LETTERS.html

And there is Dana's site:

http://www.danasview.net/

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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