Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

[Guest guest]

Hi, Carl:

While I am happy You are feeling better, as a fellow AS sufferer I am concerned

that You could be rather on the edge of advertising with such a post.  It is

apparent that You believe some kind of supplementation is key for this disease

or some of its more annoying sequelae.  I agree to some extent, but unless You

tackle this disease at its root-cause, all the supplements in the world are just

re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

AS is a disease of OVERCONSUMPTION of unnatural things, and it is not what we

put into our bodies so much as what we leave off!

Good Luck to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@...>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

 

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to

celebrex. Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny

thing is, when i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i

took supplements that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4

years, now i am working from home, and have switched from every morning and

night, to maybe one anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even

my heartburn went away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack

of a good prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

Hi Carl.  The root cause of all these inflammatory diseases is of Infectious

origin.  You must get rid of the cause.  Of course, proper diet and changes in

life style will make you feel better, but getting to the cause will insure that

you stay well for the rest of your life.  Like , I am remission from

Scleroderma. And I did it all by following the Antibiotic Protocol.  We must

stay focused on the cure.  Dolores

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen (DOT) com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

 

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

but A.S. is supposedly caused by a gene hla-b27, how can i get rid of a gene

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From: mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:01:50 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Hi Carl. The root cause of all these inflammatory diseases is of Infectious

origin. You must get rid of the cause. Of course, proper diet and changes in

life style will make you feel better, but getting to the cause will insure that

you stay well for the rest of your life. Like , I am remission from

Scleroderma. And I did it all by following the Antibiotic Protocol. We must

stay focused on the cure. Dolores

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@ . com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Let me re-phrase. Try Herbalifes line of products for joints and such. But,

dont buy them from me. Just try them. Regardless of where you get them. I

really truly believe in their stuff, and thats why i deal in it. I dont push it

because i deal in it. I push it because it works. If you like i could list the

individual ingredients, but that would be like 40 differant nutrients. Also.

If our lame disease is caused by a gene (HLA-B27), what do we do about it? I am

always open for new suggestions as i am sure you are as well (cuz A.S. is lame

lol)

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From: Merchant <anzaltopo@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 7:29:14 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Hi, Carl:

While I am happy You are feeling better, as a fellow AS sufferer I am concerned

that You could be rather on the edge of advertising with such a post. It is

apparent that You believe some kind of supplementation is key for this disease

or some of its more annoying sequelae. I agree to some extent, but unless You

tackle this disease at its root-cause, all the supplements in the world are just

re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

AS is a disease of OVERCONSUMPTION of unnatural things, and it is not what we

put into our bodies so much as what we leave off!

Good Luck to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen (DOT) com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

Hi, Carl:

We cannot get rid of this gene--but You know that Dr. Kahn estimates (and other

researchers corroborate similar figures) that AS is only 14% due to genetics;

there are two other major factors that precipitate this disease--both basically

" environmental " and You can know this for a fact--prove it to Yourself, if You

have the patience and direction.

It is contained at www.kickas.org, but basically everyone with AS 1) Consumes

too much starch into their 2) Damaged guts and the common bowel bacterium that

causes AS--Klebsiella pneumoniae--has " lock-and-key " sequences identical with

the HLA B27 structure, so through the process of molecular mimicry we produce

antigens to this specific bacterium (IgA-Kp) that happen to cause an attack upon

our Osp (Outer surface protein) that is rich in B27 (or similar structures of

other MHC).

I have not had a single AS inflammatory attack in over 11 years since starting

my own regimen and hundreds of others are also following their own modifications

of what I am doing--but now I have been engaged in experimentation for those who

cannot give up their starches and this will be many more people due to coming

economic crises--soon.  But I (ALMOST) regret that I am no longer a very good

experimental subject, so I invite anyone with AS to get rid of it--before they

end up with so much skeletal damage (like me) that their lives are forever

altered because of this AS monster.

Good Luck and good HEALTH to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@ . com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

I have started a line of digestive health products as well, not knowing about

that which you just mentioned about digestion. Could be thats the key to why i

am feeling so much better. What do you think?

________________________________

From: Merchant <anzaltopo@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:38:09 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Hi, Carl:

We cannot get rid of this gene--but You know that Dr. Kahn estimates (and other

researchers corroborate similar figures) that AS is only 14% due to genetics;

there are two other major factors that precipitate this disease--both basically

" environmental " and You can know this for a fact--prove it to Yourself, if You

have the patience and direction.

It is contained at www.kickas.org, but basically everyone with AS 1) Consumes

too much starch into their 2) Damaged guts and the common bowel bacterium that

causes AS--Klebsiella pneumoniae-- has " lock-and-key " sequences identical with

the HLA B27 structure, so through the process of molecular mimicry we produce

antigens to this specific bacterium (IgA-Kp) that happen to cause an attack upon

our Osp (Outer surface protein) that is rich in B27 (or similar structures of

other MHC).

I have not had a single AS inflammatory attack in over 11 years since starting

my own regimen and hundreds of others are also following their own modifications

of what I am doing--but now I have been engaged in experimentation for those who

cannot give up their starches and this will be many more people due to coming

economic crises--soon. But I (ALMOST) regret that I am no longer a very good

experimental subject, so I invite anyone with AS to get rid of it--before they

end up with so much skeletal damage (like me) that their lives are forever

altered because of this AS monster.

Good Luck and good HEALTH to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@ . com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like oranges)

can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to re-invigorate AS

activity.  Better to " substrate modulate " by eliminating all unnatural (flour),

improper (fried), and soluble (potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut

can better heal and even if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step

back in the healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@ . com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

My biggest problem, potatoes. Love em, need em, cant survive without em. lol

Best back atchya,

Carl

________________________________

From: Merchant <anzaltopo@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 9:37:07 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like oranges)

can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to re-invigorate AS

activity. Better to " substrate modulate " by eliminating all unnatural (flour),

improper (fried), and soluble (potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut

can better heal and even if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step

back in the healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

From: cjjustesen <cjjustesen@ . com>

Subject: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:10 PM

Like anyone else with A.S. i have taken every NSAID from arthrotec to celebrex.

Ive taken every pain pill from Morphine to Kadian. But the funny thing is, when

i decided to go into the nutrition business, it wasnt until i took supplements

that i started feeling good. I have been on disability for 4 years, now i am

working from home, and have switched from every morning and night, to maybe one

anti-inflammatory every couple of days. The kicker is, even my heartburn went

away. I found that my lousy diet caused my pain, not the lack of a good

prescription.

http://herbal- nutrition. net/carljustesen

[Guest guest]

so john what do you eat that helps keep your disease process in check? i

eat meat, fish, eggs, vegetables, squash, nuts, seeds, minimal fruit,

and good fats like coconut oil, olive oil, avocado and that's it. keeps

my pain way down and gives me more mobility.

monique

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like

oranges) can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to

re-invigorate AS activity. Better to " substrate modulate " by

eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried), and soluble

(potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can better heal and even

if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step back in the

healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

[Guest guest]

Hey, :

Yes, similar to You, but in early stages I had to test every food with

iodine--like Carol Sinclair advises (The New IBS Low-Starch Diet available

amazonUK).  Some fruits are safe like melons and grapes and other fruits can be

harvested too early and must be batch-sampled for iodine content--anything in

the apricot family (Carol once reacted terribly to nectarines and she says this

fruit starch is the most pernicious kind).

I would add some things to the list, especially tofu and raisins--but You've

pretty much covered it, otherwise.  I eat to live instead of live to eat--as

You have also found.

HEALTH,

From: Sauve <moniquesauve@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:13 PM

 

so john what do you eat that helps keep your disease process in check? i

eat meat, fish, eggs, vegetables, squash, nuts, seeds, minimal fruit,

and good fats like coconut oil, olive oil, avocado and that's it. keeps

my pain way down and gives me more mobility.

monique

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like

oranges) can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to

re-invigorate AS activity. Better to " substrate modulate " by

eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried), and soluble

(potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can better heal and even

if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step back in the

healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

[Guest guest]

Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, but

our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting soy and raisins on

your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care so much about the soy, but I

do like raisins, especially as candy is out of the picture. Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Hi I also have A S.. Its not easy just keep pushing through.

________________________________

From: Merchant <anzaltopo@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 2:41:15 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

 

Hey, :

Yes, similar to You, but in early stages I had to test every food with

iodine--like Carol Sinclair advises (The New IBS Low-Starch Diet available

amazonUK).  Some fruits are safe like melons and grapes and other fruits can be

harvested too early and must be batch-sampled for iodine content--anything in

the apricot family (Carol once reacted terribly to nectarines and she says this

fruit starch is the most pernicious kind).

I would add some things to the list, especially tofu and raisins--but You've

pretty much covered it, otherwise.  I eat to live instead of live to eat--as

You have also found.

HEALTH,

From: Sauve <moniquesauve@ shaw.ca>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:13 PM

 

so john what do you eat that helps keep your disease process in check? i

eat meat, fish, eggs, vegetables, squash, nuts, seeds, minimal fruit,

and good fats like coconut oil, olive oil, avocado and that's it. keeps

my pain way down and gives me more mobility.

monique

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like

oranges) can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to

re-invigorate AS activity. Better to " substrate modulate " by

eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried), and soluble

(potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can better heal and even

if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step back in the

healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

[Guest guest]

Hi, :

I don't eat soy but a soy derivative--tofu; in my world of starch-exclusion

there is a big difference.  Raisins are an important food for everyone,

especially when in combination with raw almonds--that is my snack food and I

don't get tired of it.  I sometimes make my GORP of these two with some

bittersweet morsels--so candy, well I don't think much of it is very safe with

the caramel (not a starch, per se, but it acts exactly as a starch as do things

like maltodextrin and guar gum).  Still, there are plenty of sweet goodies to

eat that are safe and I only lost a lot of weight in the beginning--when I was

extra-careful and still healing my gut. 

Now, my diet has gotten rather sloppy and since I take nothing to mask the pain,

I know exactly when it is coming on and that is when I either cut back, take

antibiotics, or fast (long-term fasting is the best thing for AS and similar

diseases like Crohn's, Reiter's, and perhaps Behcet's).  By now I have so much

of the weight back that I could stand to fast for several months (but my fasts

are WATER ONLY fasts, so the longest I have gone is 20 days--not in the danger

zone of 60 days).

HEALTH,

From: nealnatemom <andtwo@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:56 PM

 

Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid

Arthritis, but our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting soy and

raisins on your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care so much about the

soy, but I do like raisins, especially as candy is out of the picture. Thanks,

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> Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

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> eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried), and soluble

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> (potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can better heal and even

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[Guest guest]

Thanks - that's a relief. I want to eat healing and helpful foods, just

always liked my cakes, cookies, chocolate, diet coke, etc. So it would be heard

to give up something like raisins too - will try them with the raw almonds. Good

health to you too!

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[Guest guest]

anti-biotics are just brutal arent they

 

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From: Merchant <anzaltopo@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 3:04:05 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

 

Hi, :

I don't eat soy but a soy derivative-- tofu; in my world of starch-exclusion

there is a big difference.  Raisins are an important food for everyone,

especially when in combination with raw almonds--that is my snack food and I

don't get tired of it.  I sometimes make my GORP of these two with some

bittersweet morsels--so candy, well I don't think much of it is very safe with

the caramel (not a starch, per se, but it acts exactly as a starch as do things

like maltodextrin and guar gum).  Still, there are plenty of sweet goodies to

eat that are safe and I only lost a lot of weight in the beginning--when I was

extra-careful and still healing my gut. 

Now, my diet has gotten rather sloppy and since I take nothing to mask the pain,

I know exactly when it is coming on and that is when I either cut back, take

antibiotics, or fast (long-term fasting is the best thing for AS and similar

diseases like Crohn's, Reiter's, and perhaps Behcet's).  By now I have so much

of the weight back that I could stand to fast for several months (but my fasts

are WATER ONLY fasts, so the longest I have gone is 20 days--not in the danger

zone of 60 days).

HEALTH,

From: nealnatemom <andtwosbcglobal (DOT) net>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:56 PM

 

Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, but

our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting soy and raisins on

your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care so much about the soy, but I

do like raisins, especially as candy is out of the picture. Thanks,

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> Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

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> HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

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From: karen chatman <karenchatman@...>

rheumatic

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 2:28:16 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

 

Hi I also have A S.. Its not easy just keep pushing through.

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From: Merchant <anzaltopo (DOT) com>

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 2:41:15 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

 

Hey, :

Yes, similar to You, but in early stages I had to test every food with

iodine--like Carol Sinclair advises (The New IBS Low-Starch Diet available

amazonUK).  Some fruits are safe like melons and grapes and other fruits can be

harvested too early and must be batch-sampled for iodine content--anything in

the apricot family (Carol once reacted terribly to nectarines and she says this

fruit starch is the most pernicious kind).

I would add some things to the list, especially tofu and raisins--but You've

pretty much covered it, otherwise.  I eat to live instead of live to eat--as

You have also found.

HEALTH,

From: Sauve <moniquesauve@ shaw.ca>

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:13 PM

 

so john what do you eat that helps keep your disease process in check? i

eat meat, fish, eggs, vegetables, squash, nuts, seeds, minimal fruit,

and good fats like coconut oil, olive oil, avocado and that's it. keeps

my pain way down and gives me more mobility.

monique

Hey, Carl:

HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even (like

oranges) can cause enough temporary stripping away of the epithelium to

re-invigorate AS activity. Better to " substrate modulate " by

eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried), and soluble

(potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can better heal and even

if You eat something (lectins) that causes a giant step back in the

healing department, it will not then cause such a massive flare-up.

Best to You,

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hi mary i have RA too not AS. this diet works for RA too. take out the

food that feeds the starches. i make a 'candy' out of coconut cream,

butter, vanilla extract, and stevia. tastes like fudge. use 1 c of

butter and 1 c of coconut cream and heat on low heat to melt. turn off

heat and add 1 T van extract and a pinch of stevia. put in pan on

parchment paper in freezer. keep in fridge after it solidifies.

monique

Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid

Arthritis, but our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting

soy and raisins on your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care

so much about the soy, but I do like raisins, especially as candy is out

of the picture. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks - sounds yummy!

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> hi mary i have RA too not AS. this diet works for RA too. take out the

> food that feeds the starches. i make a 'candy' out of coconut cream,

> butter, vanilla extract, and stevia. tastes like fudge. use 1 c of

> butter and 1 c of coconut cream and heat on low heat to melt. turn off

> heat and add 1 T van extract and a pinch of stevia. put in pan on

> parchment paper in freezer. keep in fridge after it solidifies.

>

> monique

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> Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid

> Arthritis, but our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting

> soy and raisins on your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care

> so much about the soy, but I do like raisins, especially as candy is out

> of the picture. Thanks,

>

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Hi ,

it sounds good!

I figure you do not have milk intolerance since butter is not just pure fat.

what is the " 1 c " ?

thanks,

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Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:46:57 +0000

Subject: rheumatic Re: ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Thanks - sounds yummy!

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> hi mary i have RA too not AS. this diet works for RA too. take out the

> food that feeds the starches. i make a 'candy' out of coconut cream,

> butter, vanilla extract, and stevia. tastes like fudge. use 1 c of

> butter and 1 c of coconut cream and heat on low heat to melt. turn off

> heat and add 1 T van extract and a pinch of stevia. put in pan on

> parchment paper in freezer. keep in fridge after it solidifies.

>

> monique

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> Hi - I've been following this discussion. I have Rheumatoid

> Arthritis, but our underlying issues seem to be similar. Are you putting

> soy and raisins on your safe to eat list or the do not eat? Don't care

> so much about the soy, but I do like raisins, especially as candy is out

> of the picture. Thanks,

>

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many ppl can't do milk or cream because of the lactose. that is me. so

ghee and butter are ok for me. if casein is a problem then butter would

not work but ghee would be ok. if you cannot do butter then you can make

this with coconut cream.

monique

Hi ,

it sounds good!

I figure you do not have milk intolerance since butter is not just pure fat.

what is the " 1 c " ?

thanks,

[Guest guest]

oh and 1c = 1 cup

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

My reading to date indicates that food intake does indeed play a

major role in arthritic flare-ups. The key to success is to identify

the foods to which you are sensitive -- and then to avoid them. The

first sin in terms of food intolerance is eating a lot of a certain

food on a regular and repetitive basis.

Food sensitivity can cause a wide range of symptoms in addition to

arthritis, such as abdominal pain, acid reflux, runny nose,

sinusitis, insomnia, skin rashes, and more. According to " The Food

Intolerance Bible " by J. Haynes and Antoinette Savill, the

Top Five Usual Suspects are:

1) Cow's milk products

2) Gluten grains (wheat, oats, rye, barley)

3) Soy

4) Sugar

5) Yeast

I have reactive arthritis, which is a very close relative to

ankylosing spondylitis. Beef products send me into an immediate

flare. Getting off gluten has reduced many of my symptoms, but has

created others.

Sincerely, Harald

At 08:37 PM 5/5/2010, Merchant wrote:

>HEALING THE GUT is of primary importance to eliminating AS once and for all!

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>Problem is, the most innocuous things that are not starches even

>(like oranges) can cause enough temporary stripping away of the

>epithelium to re-invigorate AS activity. Better to " substrate

>modulate " by eliminating all unnatural (flour), improper (fried),

>and soluble (potatoes) starches from the diet--then the gut can

>better heal and even if you eat something (lectins) that causes a

>giant step back in the healing department, it will not then cause

>such a massive flare-up.

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>Best to You,

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Harold,

What symptoms did getting off gluten created?

Cari

AS 1983

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group <

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Hello I to have A.S . I am 30 and was diagnosed about a year ago..What nsaid or

pain medication works best. I cant find 1 that will take the pain away. I have

been on a none gluten lifestyle  for 1 month and trying to find a doctor that

will prescribe me the antibiotic here in Dallas. All advise will be helpful.

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Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 4:44:18 PM

Subject: Re: rheumatic ankylosing spondylitis and acid reflux

Harold,

What symptoms did getting off gluten created?

Cari

AS 1983

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> I have reactive arthritis, which is a very close relative to

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Hi, :

I have to warn You against NSAIDs.  While they can relieve the pains

temporarily, they can also ACCELERATE AS.

Important to get anti-Klebsiella pneumoniae antibiotics.  Anti-protista, too.

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